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That's why it would
make sense to find out the details about the new OS Microsoft
plans to unveil on June 24, which is rumored to be designated as
Windows 11 before making any recommendations about a new laptop.
If Windows 11 is substantially different than Windows 10, then
buying a Windows 10 laptop now and upgrading it to Windows 11
later might result in less than optimum performance.
On 6/16/2021 12:49 PM, chris judge
I upgraded three computers from windows 7
to windows 10, and in all cases the performance was less than
That isn’t true as a
generalization. It may have been true when upgrading
from certain versions, I don’t know. But it is not
true as a generalization. What do you mean by new
hardware? Look at all the people who upgraded from
Windows 7 and Windows 8 to Windows 10. The major
thrust of the introduction of Windows 10 for the first
year was to get people to upgrade their existing
computers. If Microsoft had not been able to offer
Windows 10 as an upgrade, they would have suffered an
enormous lack of adoption until people bought new
computers over time.
Wednesday, June 16, 2021 11:10 AM
Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new laptop
Microsoft doesn’t make the next version of Windows
markedly more demanding than the last version.
Look at history
and Windows 10
Seems to me that each step (almost) required all new
On 6/16/2021 11:04 AM, Gene
I mean that, as far as
I know, Microsoft doesn’t make the next
version of Windows markedly more demanding
than the last version.
Wednesday, June 16, 2021 11:00 AM
Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for a new
I don’t know how
much more you spend for 16GB of RAM but
I see no reason to worry about Windows
11. Microsoft doesn’t go around making
new versions markedly more demanding.
And has anyone reliable who writes
technical articles said that Windows 11
will require more ram or computing
power? While I don’t follow these
things, at the same time, I have seen
nothing indicating that people who had
machines that ran Windows 8 needed more
powerful machines to run Windows 10.
I don’t know how
much more you spend for 16GB of RAM when
buying a new machine and having the
extra RAM added. If it is a small
amount like twenty-five or thirty
dollars, it isn’t worth worrying about
mmuchif at all for a lot of people.
particularly concerned with the amouhnt
of RAM except in the context of what I
consider the very questionable
generalization about future proofing a
machine. though I also am commenting
because I just don’t think a typical
computer user needs more or will benefit
significantly more by adding ram.
also, it is my
impression that Windows 10 handles
memory more efficiently than Windows 8
did. I’m challenging the idea that you
need to spend more money and go beyond
specifications that work well today to
future pproof a machine. Many
considerations enter into the question.
How do you intend to use the machine?
How much do you care about speed? What
sorts of changes in Windows and programs
can accurately be predicted that will
make your computer not be able to work
with software over many years and
Windows as it changes? And how much
more money are we talking about?
And to explain my
point further, if you apply the future
proof argument or extrapolation to other
areas, what are the results? Do you end
up advocating a much more powerful
processor than that which works well now
with Windows 10? In the end, adding,
with all these upgrades, 100 dollars, or
150 dollars to the price of a machine.
A little here and a little there and you
may be talking about enough money to
matter to people who want to be careful
or reasonably careful about how much
I really doubt
that Microsoft is going to create the
kind of bad will and anger among its
customers by making Windows 11 require
enough more computer resources to make a
lot of users’ machines obsolete or
require them to spend money to upgrade
In short, my main
point is that once you start applying
the future proof argument, where does it
lead and how much money is involved?
Wednesday, June 16, 2021 10:29 AM
Re: [TechTalk] Recommendations for
a new laptop
Plus with Windows
11coming out, we don’t know the hardware
requirements of that OS yet. Nor do we
know if JAWS will have new hard where
I agree with
Chris completely on this.
I’d go with 16GB
to be safe.
My opinion is you
don’t buy a laptop minimal specs just to
last a year or two. You buy enough that
will carry you thru for a while.
I’d also go with
a Core I5 11th gen.
Do you just want
a clamshell laptop or w would you like
to have it convert over to a tablet?
Is a keyboard
with a NumLock important to you?
In my experience,
as one who uses jaws and the Microsoft
office suite all the time, I can state
that the two features that will make you
happy are a solid state hard drive, and
16 gig of ram. Sure it is true that 8
gig will suffice, but I have 16 ram and
solid state hard drives in all of my
computers now and they work great. The
difference in cost between 8 gig of ram
and 16 gig is almost negligible.
I will not be
traveling with my laptop. I am doing a
ministry through our church so I use the
Internet a lot. I also print out braille
so I have a Duxberry program and of
course I use the latest jaws I just
wanted to make sure that I have enough
memory in my computer for it to last me
for a little bit I also like to keep
books on my computer because I download
from bard as well
I do not want a
Kathy Sent from
On Jun 15,
2021, at 9:04 PM, John Holcomb II
What do you
do with your laptop? How much is
Will you be
traveling a lot with this and need a
good battery ?
afternoon to all
I need to
purchase a new laptop, I need help
with how much memory and
everything I need for my laptop I
use the latest jaws and I use
office products I’d like to do the
Internet as well I’m not good at
this part when it comes to
purchasing a laptop and everything
I should have in it