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Its not that links aren’t inserted into articles, such as links to related
articles. But this is both nonlink and link text. It is more
difficult to skip because using the skip blocs of links command doesn’t work and
features like Immersive Reader doesn’t skip them. If there are a block of
links, programs like Immersive Reader, I believe, generally skips them. I
say I believe because I don’t use such features much, though if they worked on
New York Times pages with the combination of text and links, I would.
Other people may find other ways, but the only way I’ve found to move
through such sections in general with reasonable efficiency is to use the read
by paragraph command and repeat it until the main article text begins
There are some sections in which a button is at the end of the intrusion
and you can move to the button and the end in that way, but most of the time
this isn’t present.
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is this new Internet annoyance the start of
Unless I'm misunderstanding what's going on here I've been noticing this for
In case what's being discussed is different from what I've experienced, I can
be reading an article online and there are links entered right in the middle of
it that may or may not be related to the article's content but usually is.
Another annoyance for me, and this happens both while reading something on
the internet using my computer or my iPhone, is twitter links. It seems like
there'll be a quote from somebody's twitter feed in the article and that's fine,
but then it puts the links to that feed and again repeats the quoted text from
above. I don't know why something has to be repeated like that, just the quote
should be good enough without having the actual twitter feed there too.
On 6/22/2021 12:21 PM, Gene wrote:
I just gave opinion descriptions and links as an example of what may
appear in an opinion article on the site. I see the same sort of thing
in various news articles as well, referring you to other news articles.
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Is this new Internet annoyance the start
of a trend?
I’ve seen this in the middle of reader view on other
s sites too.
Its not always opinion but stuff that is
I’ve gotten down a rabbit whole because of this
I read READER’S DIGEST for years, but stopped when
their articles were essentially thumbnail sketches filled with links. I
wouldn’t mind if such links were posted at the end of articles, but as you
point out, that doesn’t seem to be the way of modern journalism; after all,
it’s all about catching the eye and attention of the reader immediately; after
all, the reader may not read to the end of the article.
The New York Times recently has begun inserting
sections in articles containing text and links to related articles, or
articles in the same section that are only related by category, such as that
they are all opinion articles. Here is an example:
This appears in the middle of an opinion article
about Biden’s foreign policy:
OPINION DEBATEWill the Democrats face a midterm
• EZRA KLEIN writes that “midterms typically raze the
governing party” and explores just how tough a road the Democrats have
• JAMELLE BOUIE wonders whether voters will accept a
party “that promises quite a bit but won’t work to make any of it a
• MAUREEN DOWD writes that Biden has “a very narrow
window to do great things” and shouldn’t squander it appeasing Republican
• THOMAS B. EDSALL explores new research on whether
the Democratic Party could find more success focusing on race or on class when
trying to build support.
While I read other content online and haven’t seen an
increase in this sort of thing, this could be the start of a new trend.
Have others seen an increase?
Ways of eliminating intrusive content such as Edge’s
Immersive Reader, don’t detect and remove these long sections. How do
they look different to sighted readers? Does the difference in
appearance give any indication of how these sections might be detected and
removed or skipped by screen-readers or features like Immersive