Re: email service question


Gene
 

Are you using IMAP or POP3 with Outlook?  As I said, if you are using IMAP,  you can see the identical spam folder in Outlook and you may not want to bother working online to have less misdirected messages. 
 
I don’t use the online interface much and others may know shortcuts to speed things up.
When using the standard view, at the top of the page, use your screen-reader’s find to search for spam.  You will be on the spam link.  Follow it and then, when you are in the folder, make sure you are at the top of the page and type x to move to the first message. 
If you open it, you will see a not spam button.  When you open the message, search for the word spam.  Repeating the search will get you to the not spam button.
 
I much prefer doing this specific thing in the simple HTML view.
 
Go to the spam folder in the same way.
Once there, type x after making sure you are at the top of the page.  You will be at the first message.  If you want to see who it is from and the subject line, down arrow.
 
You don’t have to open the message to get to the not spam button.  Press the letter b twice to gget to it.  So, you can use x to move to the first message, down arrow to see information about it and use the letter b twice to move to the not spam button if you want to indicate that it isn’t spam.  If you do that, the message will be moved to the inbox.
 
Here is a link you can use to open GMail to the simple HTML view.
Gene
-----Original Message-----

Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question
 

I rarely look at my spam folder but I have and have seen messages I do want going to my inbox.

So how would you mark this on the web?

I think I’m using the standard view as you can’t even see all of the filters and whatnot in basic HTML view.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 3:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question

 

I meant to say you will see the spam folder as you would see online.  In other words, if you don’t get a lot of misdirected messages labeled as spam, you may just want to look at them in Outlook and do nothing more.  I was addressing a situation where someone wants to reduce the number of messages misdirected as spam.

 

Gene

 

Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 2:15 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question

 

If you don’t get enough messages erroneously marked as spam that you want to bother with this, if you have an IMAP account, you can read them using your e-mail program which will see the same spam filter you would see online.  But if you do get enough that you want to reduce the number, you could go to the web site and tell GMail that they are not spam.  As I said, as you do this, if my experience is representative, you will get fewer and fewer messages misdirected.  This is a temporary procedure which you wouldn’t have to do over a long period of time, again if my experience is generalizable. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 1:45 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question

 

Ok, I’m open to giving it a sot.

I’m not trying to suggest it’d be difficult. Just that I’d be using outlook to do my email normally  then have to go to this website to do spam related things.

And if there is a way to only use outlook to do this, it’d be what I’d prefer.

If not, ok sure, I’ll do it this way, but its not my preference.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 2:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question

 

From what you write, you seem to think this is a difficult and involved process.  It isn’t.  You may not want to see what it is like but I hope you try following my instructions to see whether you agree.  I can very quickly move down a list of spam messahges on the web site, and easily mark any as not spam that I wish.

 

Also, if you are using an IMAP account, you don’t have to open and read any mail on the site.  When you mark a message as not spam, GMail moves it to your Inbox and you can read it there using Outlook.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 1:18 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question

 

I’d rather  just have an email provider that doesn’t do spam filtering asor if they do so , as little as possible.

I never ever look at  Gmail on the web, I o use outlook.

I want to be able to use one program to do it all, not have to open a separate website, figure out how to go to the  Gmail message in question, then ma mark it there when  I literally will never use the website to read or co compose or do anything with mail.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 2:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question

 

You have to mark it as not spam on the web site.  It is easy to do this on the web site and it would be to your advantage if you want to reduce mail misdirected to the spam folder. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 12:46 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question

 

Yeah but I’m not one that uses the web interface.

So I don’t know of a way to no not mark it as spam in outlook.

I can move it to the inbox but that doesn’t not mark it, does it?

Thanks,

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 7:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question

 

Just marking a message from a certain person or domain as not spam doesn’t change things immediately.  If you continue to do so, my experience is that Google learns not to generally mark them as spam over time.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 1:33 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question

 

With Google, have marked stuff as not spam and it doesn't care it still
continues.
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte
Single
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 2:01 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question

No Madison, do not seitch your email service, change your filter settings.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison
Martin
Sent: October 25, 2021 11:53 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question

I assume you're talking about switching email services? If so, then I think
it'd be worth it if it meant fixing these issues.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John
Holcomb II
Sent: October 25, 2021 12:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question

I've given my email address to many places and people and would have to
switch a lot of things to a different mail address if I went thru and did
something like this though considered it myself.
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte
Single
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 1:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question

Hi Madison,

I live next door to you in Sask.
I choose to use sasktel as my I s p and mail server.
I had sasktel set my filters to none.
These days, the amount of truly junk mail I get is less than 1 % with no
filters.
 

Set your mail to no filters and see how things go.  Try it for a week and
see how it is.

Cheers,

Mont

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison
Martin
Sent: October 25, 2021 10:35 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] email service question

Hi all,
Does anyone know of any email services (if that's even the right word for
them, sorry if it's not) that don't filter messages at all? The reason that
I ask is because I had a gmail account (I actually still have it but I don't
use it
anymore) but I stopped using it because I found out how much gmail filters
messages and this annoyed me. I switched back to an account with my ISP, but
now I'm having all kinds of problems with their filtering marking messages
that aren't spam as spam which means that I don't recieve them and now I'm
constantly worrying about whether or not I'll get a message or not and also
about what messages I'm not getting because of their filtering. There are
newsletters that I've signed up for that I'm pretty sure are being marked as
spam and so therefor I'm not getting them, I've added these addresses to my
safe senders' list on my ISP's webmail preferences but this has not solved
my problem. When I was subscribed to these newsletters with my gmail address
they'd come through just fine, but I really want to have all of my emails
being sent to one address, I really don't want to have to have to be
checking multiple addresses all the time. The reason I changed addresses is
because I asked my ISP and they told me that they don't filter to the same
extent that gmail does. I totally get that they need and want to protect
people from spam and such, but when you're not receiving all emails sent to
you because they're thought to be spam when they're not then that's no good
either. I've asked them and they say that they can't turn off the filters
(if I have to deal with spam then I really don't care if it means that it
prevents other emails from being marked as spam and therefor I get them
which is all I really want) and I haven't gotten any response from them when
I've asked them to look into emails that aren't spam but are being marked as
such by their filters. This is really frustrating and worrying me and I'm
really not sure what else to do so that's why I'm asking about this. If
anyone is wondering I use the latest versions of Jaws, Office 365 (as I use
Outlook to access my emails) and Windows 10 pro and I don't have any rules
or filters set up in Outlook. Really hope someone has a suggestion, as I
really want to do something about this as it's driving me nuts, please don't
tell me to just unsubscribe from the newsletters. Sorry for such a long
message, any help/suggestions will be very much appreciated!!!! Thanks
Madison  





























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