Re: email service question


Others who use Outlook will, I hope, discuss the question.  You may be able to get more what you want done by working directly with GMail on the site.  But people may post who have created rules in Outlook itself and had them followed.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question

I’m using iMap with OutLook.


In the last two years, on all of my computers, what I tell OutLook to do with emails has never been done.  Emails will sometimes get transferred from the spam folder to my In box but email from the same person or list may or may not show up in the right folder the very next day.  In other words, instructions concerning mail is not honored.


I wish there was a way to just delete the spam folder and have all mail go in to my in box since I have to arrow through all mail any way to make sure that I am not missing important mail.


James B 


From: <> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question


Are you using an IMAP or a POP3 account?  You can’t tell GMail how to determine what is spam directly.  You can tell GMail, on the web site, that something in the spam folder isn’t spam.  As I understand it, you can make a label on the web site telling GMail to move something specific such as mail from a certain domain to the inbox or somewhere else so it won’t go into the spam folder. 


If you are using an IMAP account with your e-mail program, you can see the spam folder in the program that is the same one on the web site.  So you can check it for spam and read or delete what you want from that folder and not go to the web site to check spam.



-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 1:55 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question


I’m using Windows 10 and a mostly recent version of Jaws with Microsoft 365.


Do you have to tell Gmail how you want to filter the mail that goes in to spam at the Gmail web site?  I know it sure doesn’t do any thing when trying to tell the OutLook client how you want mail filtered.


I have to check the Gmail spam folder and the Yahoo Junk folder several times a day.  I would much rather that every thing just went in to my Yahoo and Gmail in boxes since I have to go through mail one item at a time to determine if I want to save or discard each email.  So, the spam and junk folders are just worthless time consuming places for important mail to hide.


BTW, the Gmail spam filter will catch some mail one day and the very next day allow the exact same mail to go in to my in box.  I wonder why it doesn’t treat the exact same mail the same way every time.  For me, it isn’t learning a dang thing.  But, maybe, I am suppose to make all changes at the Gmail web site?


All stay safe,


James B 




From: <> On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2021 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question


When I lived on Long Island, and used Optimum’s email service, I hardly had anything in my spam folder.  I was so surprised when I got gmail.  There seems to be no rhyme or reason to what goes in the spam folder with gmail.  Pam.


From: Gene

Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 6:57 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question


I think you wouldn’t have these problems if you used GMail.  Your problem may have nothing to do with messages being filtered as you are discussing it.  It may be that certain domains or addresses are blacklisted by your provider.


As far as GMail and spam is concerned, if you repeatedly tell GMail that new messages are not spam, GMail learns not to send such messages to spam. 


You may find it much easier and less frustrating to deal with spam in this way than to get your other provider to white list domains or addresses that it black listed.



-----Original Message-----

Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 1:05 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question


The thing is that the messages that I'm worried about don't go into my junk
folder, I don't get them at all, but I know that I'm subscribed to the
newsletters or whatever because after I entered on the subscribe button I got
messages saying thank you for subscribing or subscription successful etc. I mean
that they popped up on my screen, not that they were sent to me.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Monte
Sent: October 25, 2021 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question

Hi John and List,

I am not suggesting that Madison change her email address;  I am suggesting she
set her email filters to none  or at least  a filter setting lower than what she
is currently using.
This may stop some of her mail from being diverted  to her spam or junk folder.
-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of John
Holcomb II
Sent: October 25, 2021 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question

I've given my email address to many places and people and would have to switch a
lot of things to a different mail address if I went thru and did something like
this though considered it myself.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Monte
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] email service question

Hi Madison,

I live next door to you in Sask.
I choose to use sasktel as my I s p and mail server.
I had sasktel set my filters to none.
These days, the amount of truly junk mail I get is less than 1 % with no

Set your mail to no filters and see how things go.  Try it for a week and see
how it is.



-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Madison
Sent: October 25, 2021 10:35 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] email service question

Hi all,
Does anyone know of any email services (if that's even the right word for them,
sorry if it's not) that don't filter messages at all? The reason that I ask is
because I had a gmail account (I actually still have it but I don't use it
anymore) but I stopped using it because I found out how much gmail filters
messages and this annoyed me. I switched back to an account with my ISP, but now
I'm having all kinds of problems with their filtering marking messages that
aren't spam as spam which means that I don't recieve them and now I'm constantly
worrying about whether or not I'll get a message or not and also about what
messages I'm not getting because of their filtering. There are newsletters that
I've signed up for that I'm pretty sure are being marked as spam and so therefor
I'm not getting them, I've added these addresses to my safe senders' list on my
ISP's webmail preferences but this has not solved my problem. When I was
subscribed to these newsletters with my gmail address they'd come through just
fine, but I really want to have all of my emails being sent to one address, I
really don't want to have to have to be checking multiple addresses all the
time. The reason I changed addresses is because I asked my ISP and they told me
that they don't filter to the same extent that gmail does. I totally get that
they need and want to protect people from spam and such, but when you're not
receiving all emails sent to you because they're thought to be spam when they're
not then that's no good either. I've asked them and they say that they can't
turn off the filters (if I have to deal with spam then I really don't care if it
means that it prevents other emails from being marked as spam and therefor I get
them which is all I really want) and I haven't gotten any response from them
when I've asked them to look into emails that aren't spam but are being marked
as such by their filters. This is really frustrating and worrying me and I'm
really not sure what else to do so that's why I'm asking about this. If anyone
is wondering I use the latest versions of Jaws, Office 365 (as I use Outlook to
access my emails) and Windows 10 pro and I don't have any rules or filters set
up in Outlook. Really hope someone has a suggestion, as I really want to do
something about this as it's driving me nuts, please don't tell me to just
unsubscribe from the newsletters. Sorry for such a long message, any
help/suggestions will be very much appreciated!!!! Thanks



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