If affordability of a computer is a problem and you live in the
United States, you can get a computer that will likely work properly
from Computers For the Blind. I'm more than satisfied with the one
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If you are discussing using a very old Firefox with XP, I believe
what I said about history and book marks applies.
I don't know if the refreshing problem will be solved by using
Windows 10 and a current version of whatever browser or browsers you
would be using but it would be worth trying.
It is very common for sighted techs who know nothing about
screen-readers to blame them for all sorts of problems. Since they
aren't familiar with them, they illogically assume that they are the
cause of all sorts of problems the user may complain of.
On 4/18/2022 12:12 PM, Keith S wrote:
I've brought up the refreshing thing before and the answer is
simple. I'm still working on my xp machine because my windows
10 computer is a slow piece of crap and not even a guy in a
computer repair store knows what to do to get to act normally
and his advice cost me $99 US which I could not afford. My
wife had to miss an appointment with her neurologist because I
think her cousin; who did the update from 8.1 which was on it
originally to windows 10 might not have connected the computer
directly to her router with an ethernet cable and just let the
update do it's thing over night and we are nortorious for
electrical glitches; internet "spot outages" as frontier the
provider refers to them as; and other such things. her cousin
did look at it; and with jaws running and then just NVDA
running the speed did not well; speed up on the system; so his
suggestion that it was the screen reader causing the problem
didn't make him look like such a tech guru. And to think this
guy sets up office systems and networks for a living.;
Soda@...; I've got my windows 10 door stop tucked on the
top shelf in my closet away from daylight and am simply using
windows xp netbook with an older version of firefox. I don't
do any shopping online anymore. If something ahs to be
purchased; it's either purchased in person at a store; or my
wife does it on her phone.; Just letting you know why I am
flipping out about not being able to keep up with tech. right
now I'm trying to figure out if this USB keyboard I got at
walmart will work with a cable available at amazon.com to be
allow me to use my hand me down samsung smart phone due to me
not being able to do anything with the touch pad due to my
neuropathy in my hands. the cable is below if anyone feels
like taking a look at it and giving their opinion:; usb otg
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Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] bookmarks on firefox, can I
organize them or delete them?
I'm not sure why you are having the add-ons annoyance and the
refreshing problem. But its better to ask about problems than
just be annoyed about them with no possible solutions. I'm not
sure what is causing the problems nor how to stop them. I may
have suggestions as the discussion progresses.
As to organizing book marks, I would suggest doing the following
instead of this time consuming and unending work with book
marks. I never organize book marks because I have no reason to
Don't neglect history. I usually use history rather than book
marks. I create book marks so I will have sites in a permanent
form which I can export and won't lose if I get a different
machine and use Firefox on it.
But I find it much more efficient to use history to get to sites
and the address bar autocomplete. I don't have a rule, Use
whichever you want and whichever works best for this or that
Open history with control h.
You are in a search field.
Type some or all of what you are searching for.
If, for example, you want to go to The New York Times home page,
type times in the search field. If there are a lot of different
history entries with Times in them and the search results show
too many entries without the home page being near or at the top,
type something like rk times which will very much limit the
You can experiment and see if history entries change their
position, depending on how much you use them. I have a lot of
history entries for articles from The New York Times but the
home page is the first entry in the history list. I can type
something like times or rk times in the search field, tab twice
to the list, and see what is the first one and those below it;.
Press enter on the one you want and the page opens.
You can leave history opened or close it with control h after
the page loads. If you leave it opened, use control h twice to
close and o[pen history again, ready to be used for your next
I also use the address bar. Go to it with control l.
If I type just the letter n for new york, the address of the New
York Times appears in the home page. I wait to hear what my
screen-reader announces is there. I press enter if it is. If I
don't hear an automatic announcement after I type the first
letter, I use the read current line command. If what I want is
there, I press enter.
If I type too much, the autocomplete entry disappears and only
what I type is there but that is another quick way to open some
sites. Try the first letter or the first two or three letters
Try typing the first two or three letters if the first letter
doesn't do what you want. For example, try new if you want the
autocomplete to show Newsweek.
Of course, autocomplete will only find sites you have gone to
before and I'm not sure how it decides what to show. Perhaps
its based on the most used site that beginns with the letter or
letters you type. Whatever the case, I go to The New York Times
site a lot and I would rather type n, wait for the echo and
press enter than use book marks or history for that site.
If you wish, I can tell you how to use the search book marks
feature to find one but I'd have to go over it again befcause I
never use it.
On 4/18/2022 1:38 AM, Keith S
Back when I used xp and IE 6, I was able to dig around in
the root drive and into the windows folder and make a short
cut that would allow me to go directly into the favorites
folder and make new folders to organize my favorites so I
did not have 200 favorites to lug through if I were looking
for a specific site I had saved, or delete a favorite that
eitehr was no longer in use or that had changed and no
longer directed me to the correct site.
Is there any way to organize firefox bookmarks or
straight out delete them? I currently have a list of 150
bookmarks that are a mess, not in alphabetical order and to
my mind, is just sloppy.
I loved useing IE 6, but with it no longer being
supported, the lack of security updates, and with windows no
longer supporting xp, I have been using firefox, and besides
the flipping off the page I am currently working on to give
me a chance to add add-ons, which I promptly hit the control
F4 key combo to delete that tag, and the constant refreshing
of the page on high volume or high link pages such as
amazon.com or walmart.com when I try to arrow down the page
using the arrow keys, it's a learning experience, a learning
curve and probably a reason why my doctor has prescribed
some medications that slow down my anxious mind and also
lesson my anger at being a 48 year old guy who used to build
computers by scratch before going blind and now I am about
30 years behind my 75 year old mother who can use a touch
screen smart phone, a win 10 computer and firefox with no
complaints at all.
Any suggestions on the subject line question will be, of
course, greatly appreciated.