Re: New developments on Blindtech

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>

Soundds good. And just read your response. I'm actually curious what he will say. And I hope you enjoy your stay on both lists, that's exactly what I'm planning to do, too.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <
Date sent: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 12:16:04 -0700
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] New developments on Blindtech

It won't calm down for a while (I sent a message to that list, giving some
advice to Michael in terms of moderation).
I do plan to stay subscribed to read some new techie information and to
monitor how the list goes.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund []
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] New developments on Blindtech

Hi Joseph,
LOL, Mike did neither of these things. You have been a moderator of a list
that I was on before, at the time, we didn't agree, but I can tell you, you
did do a good moderation job. Anyway, the BlindTech list went through a lot
of things. Mainly, constant moving, constant people like free tech guy,
co-owner difficulties, and now, moderator difficulties. So far, it was
strong enough to hold on. Sorry for those who know the song, where I got
the reference from. If not, I can send the lyrics off list. Should be
interesting what happens now, especially that they threw Carlos out for no
apparent reason. LOL, I'm still laughing on the reference above, Mike
always seems to just send admin notes. He never actually gave us the
possibility to speak about something off list. In fact, he's more like a
judge at this point. Although, a question. What's the plan by staying
subscribed to both lists?
PS. The BT list went calm again, since Mike sent his note a little while

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <
Date sent: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:40:30 -0700
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] New developments on Blindtech

Hi all,
Sorry if I'm late to the party...
A few things come to my mind as I'm reading the list archives for both
For the past few years, I was a moderator of a number of lists and have seen
ups and downs of this position. As a moderator of a number of lists now
(including two NVDA lists), I always remind myself to be kind and listen to
members, as I felt a list admin sets precedence for others to follow. In
terms of moderation philosophy, I believe in gentle, offlist diplomacy and
how offlist mannerisms matter more for the reputation of a list
administrator. I also believe that an admin should invoke his or her
privilege sparingly (I think it is better for a moderator to listen to
conversations than run the entire show), and to serve not as a judge in
disputes but a counsellor (trying to understand disagreements and let
members resolve disputes themselves offlist). Lastly, I also believe a
moderator should be willing to step down and keep his or her promise to stay
as a member, especially if the reputation of the list is in jeopardy (as it
is, we can agree that Blind Tech will face criticism because of what
happened this weekend, and this latest incident may put that list and its
reputation (and Michael's) in jeopardy).
As of now, I'm subscribed to both lists to monitor what's going on (I'm
still reading Blind Tech archives to fully understand the backstory behind
the birth of this list).

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy []
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New developments on Blindtech

Haha, mean? I'm not sure that I've ever seen Carlos being mean to anyone.
:D I can certainly understand any frustrations he, or anyone else may have
had with the bt list, as I'd had a few of my own, but, he's always kept his
messages polite, as far as I can remember. I certainly wish the best for
this list, the bt list, and any others that offer help towards others who
need it, but, seeing the back and forth bs that seemed to be common for
BlindTech was beginning to get a little silly.
Certainly my thanks for this new one, and here's to it being able to give
the same amount, if not more, help to those of us who like these sorts of
things. hehe Take it easy.

On 8/30/2015 10:34 AM, rajmund wrote:
Oh, that. Yes, I did see it. It was that quick harsh thingy.
Yes, it was
pretty mean.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <
Date: Sunday, 30 August 2015 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New developments on Blindtech

No I didn't argue with him. My common about the new co-owner and his
response were both public.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <
To: <
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New developments on Blindtech

Hi Carlos,
Ah, so did you even have a chat with him? Because, when I asked
you were banned, I got a don't know. But if you had an argument
him, too, he must have known. So this means he has hidden it.
Am I
missing something here?

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <
Date: Sunday, 30 August 2015 4:09 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New developments on Blindtech

With all due respect, Michael seems to go through one of these
phases about every few months. And this is not the first time
has given the list away and then taken control back within a
The fact is that his new co-list owner was rude to me in private
messages and when I commented on this fact, he immediately went
the defensive and was quite rude himself. And when I defended
myself and responded to her rudeness, she immediately banned me
the list so no thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:40 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] New developments on Blindtech

You, Carlos, or others who may have left Blindtech may want to
reconsider. Michael Capell has gotten the list back and has
out an announcement indicating that there will be very few rules
and that rules will be greatly relaxed. The very brief owners
no longer either owners or moderators.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] this pc = windows 10

Hello Kimsan,
On behalf of myself and slice bread, I thank you. Welcome to
list and I'm glad to hear you worked out your problem.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan Song
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:02 AM
Subject: RE: [TechTalk] this pc = windows 10

Lol, I hate when I do that...?
I always post a question and then right when I send it, I figure
out my own problem. However, with it being 4 in the morning
now, I
have no idea how I got there... I was just tabbing and down
arrowing and poof there it was lol.

But, I couldn't figure this out ever since getting windows 10
is a few weeks now.
So, since my brain isn't functioning right now, lets just forget
this email ever came through...

Kimsan Song

From: Kimsan Song []
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 3:59 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] this pc = windows 10

I signed up here, because I think carlos is the coolest thing
slice bread.

Anyways, apparently, I'm still having trouble accessing my c
an any other external drives when plugging them into my laptop
running windows 10.
My daughter says, when I tell her, for example, I'm trying to
locate my passport, which is the name of my 1tb external hd, she
clicks on the mouse and then jaws says this pc, so how can I get
this pc via the keyboard"This pc is in the file explorer which
to show my c drive, dvd drive etc, but it's not showing any of

Kimsan Song

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