Re: all about guns and safety was Self-Driving Car Involved In Fatal Accident
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Carolyn Arnold
Not a gun enthusiast, but a gun has moving parts and is a
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piece of equipment. It has maintenance requirements and certainly safety requirements. Nevertheless, it is a piece of equipment with moving parts. Bye for now, Carolyn
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:57 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: all about guns and safety was [TechTalk] Self-Driving Car Involved In Fatal Accident I'm actually making a friendly request for the gun enthusists on the list to help me understand what facet of guns is technology related? This is a friendly request though it may come off as a challenge. Again, I think I might learn something I had not considered in the past. JR -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 7:36 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: all about guns and safety was [TechTalk] Self-Driving Car Involved In Fatal Accident Are guns not technology? As you say, just about anything can be considered technology. Anything manufactured for use as a tool qualifies as technology and while I agree that there should be a reasonable common sense line in defining how it relates to the list, it certainly doesn't only apply to computers and electronics even taking that into account. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy" <jeremy.richards7@...> To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 10:21 AM Subject: Re: all about guns and safety was [TechTalk] Self-Driving Car Involved In Fatal Accident Ok, but just so I learn something, what makes the guntopic tech related? [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of JoeSelf-Driving Car Involved In Fatal Accidentless list to subscribe to, and I think Carlos has the right of it inconsidering guns as technology. Just my two cents.[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of CarlosSelf-Driving Car Involved In Fatal Accidentmost members are interested in discussing, but I don't object to othertypes of technology being discussed within reason. It is a generaltechnology discussion list, not exclusively for discussing computerrelated technology. However, I expect people to use a bit ofcommon sense. Science provides technology, but it is not technology. Wewill handle unusual topics on an individual basis, but basically aslong as it does not strain the credulity and patience of mostmembers, I am willing to be flexible and open minded. Of course, if aslightly offbeat topic seems to be dragging on for too long orirritating too many members, I may request that we move on at some point.not go out of my way to promote the list in the sighted community, Ihave no objections to sighted individuals who might wish tosubscribe and participate. ----- Original Message -----Self-Driving Car Involved In Fatal Accidentto defineHi Carlos, don't thinkwhat is meant by technology as it relates to this list. I of blindmost would consider guns technology in terms of the scope general computing.members wanting to know about computer sciences and consideredAs is, it appears that just about anything can be electronictechnology isone thinks about it.Would the study of ants be considered technology if an make-up be ondevice is used to watch them at work? Would Woman's pretzels totopic on this list if someone twists him or herself in list membersbox up a question using a technology slant? I think most butconsider computers and all they do for us as on topic, ...Justseismographs and oscilloscopes might not be as relevant. [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] Onlooking for a bit more clarity. Self-DrivingBehalf Of Carlos have aCar Involved In Fatal Accident might not beproblem with the discussion, but I believe some members topic or movequite as understanding so we might want to close this Self-Drivingit to the chat list as was suggested. guns andCar Involved In Fatal AccidentWell it not just because it a gun thread if it was about would be onthe technology that could be implemted on them then it topic. blindness itBut just guns in general no . or if it is abut guns and most anythingwould be on topic. As carlos is fairly flexable and have notechnology wise or blindness related is on topic . But I [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] Onproblem about moving to the chat room. Self-DrivingBehalf Of Jeremy morphedCar Involved In Fatal Accident [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] Oninto some sort of gun thread. Self-DrivingBehalf Of Matt and it isCar Involved In Fatal Accident empty chamber.still the safety way is to let the hammer set on an let it set onNow you could do the same for a double action as well pull unlessthe empty chamber but you don't have to . As the trigger the safest waymodified is usually a fairly heavy pull anyhow. . but ready to pullis not to put your finger on the trigger till you are are singleit. they really have 4types of revolvers as I know. They action plusshot, single action, double action only and DASA (Double you can cocksingle double actionthe hammer and pull the trigger. Your choice. Most and learn atonly does not have an external hammer. you need toevery early age about them and how to handle them. But training onget training on handling them and using them as well as much more thanthe laws and how to protect yourself with them. it is not a big fanjust going out and buying gun. This is just stupid. I problem withof most regulation but some I am and some I have no topic and offall.them atBut I don't know if we are not sort of straying off to the chat room.the the subject as well so this might need to be moved [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Fatal AccidentBehalf Of James Bentley revolver unless You never cockthe hammer is cocked back in to the firing position. because the gun stillthe gun unless you intend to discharge it. necessary triggerneeds to be cocked before it can be fired. Or, the almosttravel to discharge the gun is so great that it would be shoot the gun.impossible to accidentily pull the trigger far enough to Fatal Accident safety is [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] Onnot to pull the trigger. Fatal AccidentBehalf Of Pamela Dominguez Fatal Accident trigger it in with a gun.my pocket? Or sit on it, or whatever? Fatal AccidentSent from a BrailleNote you don't take baseball batpepper spray to a gun fight or a knife fight or even a fight forfight. If you did you would be on the losing end of the Peppersure! thing. Youspray is one of them. But it should not be the only sure a goodshould have a knife , stun gun or Taser and a gun for very pointedold fashion hickory cane with a good hook to it that is But a waterat the end of the hook is good or asord cane is good. water in it.gun is not much good unless you have something besides [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Fatal AccidentBehalf Of Rajmund pepper spray good oldmyself, too. I have worries about guns myself, but the Fatal Accidentpepper spray. drivel. I carries a gun andknow one of these so-called "blind extremists" who shot it inhe carries it for protection only. The times he has sighted extremistpublic was because he was being threatened by four not only robthugs also known as criminals, who were threatening to and shothim but cause him physical harm. He took out his gun thugs quicklyonce, straight up into the air. Yes, the extremist some laundryran away in fright and I hope they also needed to do beenafterward.quicklyWho time withlegally carrying his weapon. But I know I'm wasting my his rights buttelling you that as you're not for the individual and deaths due tofor some other agenda instead. BTW there are more this bringsautomobile accidents than there are due to shootings so it back around to your glass half full attitude aimed at far...self-driving cars which have caused how many deaths so blind extremists constitutionalallowed bad enoughright. own firearms.that terrorists and sociopaths are allowed to buy and up mess thatBut blind Trump.has become beholden to dangerous demagogues like Donald Fatal Accident if the technology that islawmakers were so determined to put a halt to any technology wenot 100% safe and foolproof, there are many types of lawmakers inwould not have access to in modern society. If the technology out ofWashington care so much about keeping dangerous individualsthe hands of the blind, then why are there several blind Fatal Accidentwho are still being allowed to legally own firearms? foolproof is nonsense. elsewhere won't seeBut vehicles be made asit that way. They will demand that self-driving enactingclose to 100% foolproof as possible before they consider them withoutlegislation that would allow blind drivers to operate realities ofthe accompaniment of a sighted driver. That's just the Fatal Accidentpolitics in a predominantly sighted world. these types of differencecars. the otherbetween soon and never. But as far as I'm concerned, the technologyissue here is this ridiculous assumption that somehow That is justshould be or ever can be made 100% safe and foolproof. technology based onnonsense and trying to predict the future of the Fatal Accidentone accident or even several is just more nonsense. half empty just notblass but a half full one. But in some cases this is It is alsopossible. I have to agree with him on this Gerald . Just like allnot just the US legislature but from state to state. more thandriving laws vary from state to state.. I also thinklikely implement it on law on driving driverless cars. sited butthey would require very special training even for the the blindcertainly for the blind person as well! I just don't see here aroundbeing able to do this in my life time and I hope to be [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] Onanother 30 years. I am coming up on my 58th birthday. Fatal AccidentBehalf Of Gerald Levy bottom line blind consumersis that it will be a very long time, if ever, before themselves. One fatalare allowed to operate one of these gizmos by vehicles mustaccident is still one fatal accident too many. These be inbe made 100% safe and foolproof before the powers that without theWashington will let blind drivers behind the wheel seat. Sorry toaccompaniment of a sighted driver in the passenger's Fatal Accidentthrow water on your parade. reasons why carthis could have happened. It is likely these multiple supportingmanufacturers are using different gPS databases and reasons, so whatsoftware, as well as other yet to be determined are using morehappened here may not happen to other researchers who variables. Thedeveloped databases--the results depend on lots of single accidentGoogle car has not had this type of history, and the taking over theit had was due to a human disabling the computer and might considerdriving. [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] Onsolutions which are less stressful to you. AccidentBehalf Of Gerald Levy of those revolutionize thenewfangled self-driving cars that may some day develop alives of us blind consumers, not so fast. The race to setbacksafe and reliable self-driving vehicle suffered a major involved inrecently when a Tesla all-electric self-driving car was operating ina fatal accident that killed the driver while it was board:self-driving mode. I guess it's back to the drawing http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/business/self-driving-tesl a-fat Accessible phones,al-crash-investigation.html?_r=0 http://www.talkingmp3players.com/Bluetooth devices, and accessories Release Date:Email: laz@... 07/01/16
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