Re: Very sad news for Window-Eyes Users.

Pinky <pinky14@...>

Hi to All,

Why is everyone so against Freedom Scientific? They seem to be doing what every other company in the world is doing. Microsoft buys out other companies.

Apple buys out other companies. They cannot give out their product for free if they want to stay in business. Just like Microsoft now charges about $8 a month if you want Office 365. If you buy a Jaws SMA for Jaws it is about $125 for two years or about $62.50  a year, which is about $5.20 a month. So it is cheaper than Office 365 a month. So I know you have the initial cost to purchase Jaws. But doesn’t all assistive software and hardware more costly for blind users?   Now again you do not have to purchase Jaws as NDVA is free. So why put down FS for trying to make a living like all companies need to do.  Now this is my own opinion but if Microsoft gets Narrator to work as well as Voice Over on Apple devices you would not need to have another screen reader. On my Apple products using Voice Over I can do anything a sighted person can do. So if MS gets Narrator working that well on the MS platforms that would be fantastic in my book. Then we would all be free of having some type of screen reader. Now don’t get me wrong Voice Over on Apple devices is not perfect in every way but is pretty good in my book.

Mr. Ed 





From: [] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Very sad news for Window-Eyes Users.



This is all well and good.  But what’s to prevent VFO from going after NVDA?  They apparently have deep pocket, so what’s to prevent them from making the developers of NVDA an attractive financial offer they simply couldn’t refuse??  Money talks, and it is not beyond the realm of possibility that the developers of NVDA would sell out to VFO for the right price.  And once VFO acquired NVDA, they could phase it out just like with Window Eyes, and force its users to migrate to JAWS.  VFO would then have a virtual monopoly in the commercial screen reader market, and blind consumers would be stuck between a rock and a hard place. But what about System Access, you say?  Well, System Access has never really been a serious player in the commercial screen readermarket anyway, and Serotek has never really recovered from the loss of Mike Calvo and all those other techies who abruptly resigned from the company.






From: Gene

Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 1:37 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Very sad news for Window-Eyes Users.


They didn't get the last laugh.  NVDA will meet a lot of peoples' needs just as well as Window-eyes.  They will have to learn a new screen-reader but they will if they switch to JAWS as well.  And a lot of people are already leaving JAWS to use NVDA.  Many free Window-eyes users, perhaps most, will do the same. 



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Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:06 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Very sad news for Window-Eyes Users.



A lot of JAWS users, fed up with the expense of upgrading their SMA’s every year, switched to the free version of Window Eyes, hoping to stick it to Freedom Scientific.  But VFO, FS’s parent company ultimately got the last laugh, because all those free Window Eyes users will now either have to pay big time to Switch back to JAWS 18 or else switch to NVDA. And whatever happened to System Access?  Does anyone still use it?  You don’t hear much about it anymore.  






From: Carlos

Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:22 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Very sad news for Window-Eyes Users.


At least they're offering the conversion to JAWS 18 for free.  Although this is not going to help those who are using the free Office edition.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:14 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] Very sad news for Window-Eyes Users.



For those who use window-eyes as a screen reader, I have something to share. This was an official announcement I received via email.
"Thank you for being a valued member of the GW Micro and Window-Eyes family.
We regret to announce that sales of Window-Eyes have ended in the United
States and Canada. Users outside of the United States and Canada should
contact their local distributor for options. We are committed to our
customers and will honor existing product purchases and software maintenance
agreements, and we will continue to provide technical support to end users
that have purchased Window-Eyes or a support package.


All users who are currently using Window-Eyes can continue to use the
software indefinitely; however, as the Windows® operating system and/or
applications change over time, Window-Eyes may not function adequately for
your needs.


We understand how important a screen reader is to you and are offering JAWS®
for Windows 18 as a replacement. We are committed to providing a smooth
transition and will honor existing Window-Eyes product purchases and
software maintenance agreements (SMA), as follows.
. End users that paid for and are current with Window-Eyes 9.x will be
converted to JAWS 18 at no charge.
. If you are using an earlier version of Window-Eyes, you can purchase an
upgrade to JAWS 18.
. If you are using the free version of Window-Eyes you can continue to use
it. While there is not an upgrade path from the free version, if you are
interested in purchasing JAWS, please contact our sales team at
. Existing Window-Eyes SMAs will be rolled into the JAWS SMA program for end
users that migrate to JAWS.
Learn more about the migration options and pricing by visiting


To make this process as easy as possible, we ask you to complete a simple
web form that will go directly to our sales team, who will then contact you
with an authorization code for JAWS 18, or request additional information if


Requests for upgrades must be submitted at or by phone at 800-444-4443
by July 31, 2017.


Note, the free Window-Eyes Offer for Users of Microsoft Office version is
not part of the conversion program.


If you have any questions please call us at 800-444-4443 or email us at




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