Re: serch engines question


The state of that setting is saved in a cookie.  Are you using any applications like CCleaner which delete cookies?  If so, you should add Google to the exceptions list.

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Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] serch engines question

How do you get ridd of that google instant message!  I am tired of it saying screenreaders click here to get ridd of google instant!  I want to be ridd of it and not have tell me I have to click on it ever time I use google search!
Thanks, Heather
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Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] serch engines question

Hi Gene and All!
I have been using the standard google search page for years with little or no trouble at all.  Not certain of what problems others may be experiencing with google search but I use it numerous times per week and even per day both with Google Chrome as well as the latest version of I.E. All ralevent information shows up or at least what I consider to be relevant anyhow.   I would be interested in knowing what types of problems folks are having?  Have A Great Day! de
<KF8LT><Jim Wohlgamuth>.

On 01-Nov-15 10:33, Gene wrote:
I don't know what accountsfor what you are seeing but you should see text excerpts of the page in results.  Also, 72 results per page is not the standard setting.  The default setting on the main google site is 10.  And it would be interesting to know, though there is no way to do so now, what links or features may not have been offered on the accessibility page.  Any time there is something special dealing with internet accessibility done for blind people, the question should be asked, what, if anything is being given up.  For example, on the main Google page, if you look up a person in the news or something else that is being actively followed in the news, a google link says news for and then the item.  Following that link is avaluable way to see news stories related to the topic.  If the accessibility page didn't provide that, then blind users were being short changed.  I'm not assuming that the accessibility page had less features.  I'm saying that the question of what may be lost to blind users on special accessibility pages of any kind should be kept in mind.
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From: Keith S
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] serch engines question

when I would access the accessibility page, WE only announched 7 links.  when I pull up there are 71.  yes, I can use the H key to jump through headers to the meat of the results, but the first couple are advertisements.  just a lot of clutter and it's not as stream lined as the accessibility site that is now defunct.  In my humuble opinion.
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From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] serch engines question

The accessibility project had nothing to do with making Google more accessible.  It's purpose was to present results with the more accessible sites first in the results and the less accessible sites later.  This was a bad idea at the time and it still is.  Most sites are useable, even if some are not properly accessible.  If blind people are to get different performance from something, that requires a really strong case to be made. 
It was never made, in my strong opinion, for this experimental page.  Sighted people see results in terms of the popularity of the page.  Blind people should have the same information in the same order. 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] serch engines question

Hi Keith,

You don’t say which screen reader you are using. I use JAWS. With JAWS, I only have to hit h twice on the google results page to get to the search results. I have pasted below my name the first three results that came up for me when I searched for the word braille. These results do have some description after them. I always get suchdescriptions. Are you saying that your results in the accessibility lab had more information after the link?


Braille - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Parent systems‎: ‎Night writing: Early brai...

Creator‎: ‎Louis Braille

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From: Keith S [mailto:ks.steinbach03@...]
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 11:34 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] serch engines question

Hello, since losing my sight, I have used the google accessible website to do web searches:

But now, after entering a search string, and hitting enter, I get a error page.

When I have used the to check if the web site is down, (can't remember what the URL for that one is, it says that the sight is up and running fine, but indicates that it is the site, not the accessible one.

Does anyone else use a search engine that is not as cluttered as yahoo or google, like the accessible google search site as posted above?  I also liked the fact that the accessible site gave a detracted synopsis of what the page contained instead of just the webpage name and the URL underneath like the homepage.

Thanks for any help.


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