Re: Suggestions on an email client

Keith S

to my memory, all email was done in a "text" based telnet type system.  Much like a MS-dos prompt or a control line type interface.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Suggestions on an email client

I never meant to suggest that email didn't exist 30 years ago. I stated
that the email clients that were being discussed here, namely Outlook
Express, Outlook, WLM and Thunderbird, did not yet exist. But whichever
email system existed 30 years ago, it is hard to imagine how it would
have been accessible to a blind computer user because screen readers
were still in their infancy and would not have been sophisticated enough
to handle email. I believe that the first screen reading programs were
introduced around 1985, and the first version of JAWS was not released
until 1995.


On 1/11/2019 11:57 AM, Chris G wrote:
> Gerald,
> I think what people are responding to is your statement that email
> didn't exist 30 years ago.  It clearly did.
>> On 1/11/2019 5:36 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:
>>> I don't know what you are smoking, but email did not even exist 30
>>> years ago.
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 11:32:25 -0500
> "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@...> wrote:
>> We're not talking about prehistoric DOS email clients. We're talking about Windows-based email clients that are currently available. AndI can assure you without equivocation that Outlook Express, Outlook, Windows Live Mail, Windows Mail and Mozilla Thunderbird did not exist 30 years ago. I believe the first Windows-based email clients were introduced in the early 1990's. Anyone on this list who claims that he was using email way back in 1971 would have had to be working on a mainframe computer, such as an IBM System 360, which by the way, had only been introduced to the general public 7 years earlier at the 1964 New York World's Fair (I saw it in action myself), and had functional vision, because it is an absolute fact that screen readers and magnifying software did not exist back then. So called "minicomputers" such as the DEC PDP series were introduced in the early 1970's, but the term "minicomputer" was a misnomer because these machines were so large and cumbersome that they could hardly be considered "mini". I worked on a Philips Minicomputer that was the size of an upright piano and was so primitive that programs were stored on punch cards. No email on these clunkers, that's for sure. And don't tell me you were using email on your first Commodore 64, Atari 2600 or Apple 2E. Not possible.
>> Gerald
>> On 1/11/2019 10:51 AM, George McCoy wrote:
>>> I was on mailing lists 30 years ago using dos versions of email
>>> clients like pine.
>>> George
>>> On 1/11/2019 5:36 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:
>>>> I don't know what you are smoking, but email did not even exist 30
>>>> years ago. Hell, Windows didn't even exist 30 years ago in 1989, so
>>>> there is no way you could have belonged to email lists way back
>>>> then. And to clear up any confusion, the email client that comes
>>>> with Windows 7 is Windows Live Mail, not Windows Mail, which is the
>>>> email app for Windows 10. And to dismiss all these other email
>>>> programs as problematic without providing more specific information
>>>> does other list members a disservice.
>>>> Gerald
>>>> On 1/10/2019 10:11 PM, wayne wrote:
>>>>> ?
>>>>> Lanze, when it comes to email clients, well, I've got a lot to say
>>>>> and a good email client to offer. Over the years This is what I've
>>>>> observed being on email lists for the last 20 to 30 years, my
>>>>> observations are that if you were using outlook express you could
>>>>> end up with issues but they wouldn't be very frequent, however with
>>>>> the following email clients had issues quite often, and I'll name
>>>>> them. the screen reader didn't make any difference. All versions of
>>>>> outlook, except outlook express, windows live mail, thunder bird and
>>>>> there may be others, but they aren't coming to mind now. This is
>>>>> what we've been using for the last 5 or 6 years, a microsoft product
>>>>> called windows mail. This works good in windows7 and it should work
>>>>> good ind windows 10, but I haven't tried it. In fact this email
>>>>> client gets installed with every copy of windows 7. I believe it
>>>>> gets installed with every copy of windows 10. However you have to do
>>>>> a little work to get it to work right. I'm going to give you a link
>>>>> to a tutorial and the necessary information to get windows mail to
>>>>> work. All the files with the tutorial are microsoft files. If you
>>>>> download the files, and read the tutorial you'll understand what
>>>>> you need to do to get windows mail to work correctly. One very good
>>>>> thing about windows mail is that it doesn't have a single file with
>>>>> all your emails inside of it. In fact when you go to your inbox on
>>>>> your harddrive, you'll have individual files from every email, so
>>>>> you won't have to worry about a big corupt inbox or outbox file.
>>>>> This is important, you must follow the instructions in the tutorial.
>>>>> I've done this several times over the 5 or 6 years and never had a
>>>>> problem. Alright, if anyone has any questions or needs help, just
>>>>> get in touch. Here's the link to the great windows mail tutorial and
>>>>> repair files.
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>> greenwood33@... <mailto:greenwood33@...>
>>>>>      ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>      *From:* lance allison <mailto:ponneyfoxfire@...>
>>>>>      *To:* <>
>>>>>      *Sent:* Thursday, January 10, 2019 6:52 AM
>>>>>      *Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] Suggestions on an email client
>>>>>      Okay, Thanks!! I'll try Outlook express.
>>>>>      Anyone else, prose cons, recommendations
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