Re: the DTBM machine from nls


Donald L. Roberts
 

Just because Gerald's assessments come through as a bit caustic doesn't mean that his ideas aren't valid or worth discussing. Some on this list tend to try to brow beat and shame Gerald into submission.

Don Roberts

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From: "David Goldfield" <david.goldfield@outlook.com>
To: <main@techtalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls


| Gerald, your opinions on this topic are certainly valid, regardless of what anyone may say. Please don't let anybody on this list cause you do feel otherwise.
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| David Goldfield
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| On Feb 4, 2019, at 5:31 PM, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@verizon.net<mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net>> wrote:
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| No, my concerns are not based on assumptions. They are based on personal experience. I have actually compared my friend's IPhone in speakerphone mode directly with the sound output from my advanced DTB player, and it paled in comparison. It is nowhere near as loud. If you are hearing impaired like me and thousands of other NLS patrons, no smart phone could ever be modified to sound as loud and clear as the DTB player. There are bluetoot hearing aids on the market that work with the IPhone, but at $8000 a pair, they are way beyond the budget of the average blind consumer who lives on a fixed income. And while the largest smart phone may be larger than a Hershey bar, the DTB player is the size of a case of Hershey bars. Replacing the DBB player with a smaller smart phone-based device to me is just a bad idea.
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| On 2/4/2019 5:00 PM, Gene wrote:
| As I said in another message, you hate smart phones and I doubt you have laid hands on many, if any. They are increasingly large these days and screen size is an area of competition. They are much larger than Hershey bars. I have a feature phone, not a smart phone, which is about the size of a Hershey bar. The design is actually referred to as a candy bar phone. That is a phone that isn't a flip phone, is a feature phone, and is about that size. Have you heard a smart phone's audio or are you assuming how they sound? It's remarkable how good, for their size, very small speakers can be made to sound these days. I had pocket radios in the early sixties with much larger speakers and smart phones sound as good or better. If you haven't seen or heard actual smart phones, your comments are based on assumptions and preconceptions.
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| Gene
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: Gerald Levy<mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net>
| Sent: Monday, February 04, 2019 1:42 PM
| To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
| Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls
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| The advanced DTB player was well designed to begin with. The buttons
| are large and well differentiated. The sound output is loud and clear,
| even for someone like me who is severely hearing impaired and wears
| hearing aids. Now the NLS is considering replacing this generation of
| DTB players with a smart phone device that would be the size of a
| Hershey bar on which it would be physically impossible to replicate the
| key layout or sound quality of the DTB player. To me, this would be a
| huge step backwards.
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| On 2/4/2019 1:48 PM, chris judge wrote:
| > It's interesting. I live in Canada, so I've never laid eyes, oops, sorry, hands, on one of these advanced NLS players, but, and if I'm wrong, please correct me, but I can't see them being more complicated than a victor reader stream?
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| > From: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Dave
| > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2019 2:27 PM
| > To: main@TechTalk.groups.io<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
| > Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the DTBM machine from nls
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| > <Laughing> Gerald, you make me laugh sometimes.
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| > I still Highly recommend you move out of New York city, doing so will Mellow you a bit.
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| > Now, I am wondering why NLS would want to ruin a Good thing by bringing in the Next Generation of Talking Book Players, and they are some Spin Off of a Smart Phone.
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| > As for the Older Folks not being able to use one of the NLS versions of their Player, I don't know what to make of this. I have seen for myself, when an older person loses their sight, they tend to give up. They can't do anything for themselves etc.
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| > So they never learn how to cook, or even pour Milk into a Glass. they
| > insist that someone do it for them, after all they are blind.
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| > So, the previous two generations of the NLS player were about as easy as
| > it gets. Probably fewer Buttons than one of the old Cassette players.
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| > If the older folks can't operate one of the current NLS Players, I am
| > not sure why the Government is thinking the old folks will be able to
| > use a Smart Phone like device to get their books.
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| > Anyway, guess we all will need to wait and see what actually comes of
| > all of these rumors.
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| > Grumpy Dave
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