Hi Gerald and list,
Well, Gerald, The MS Disability desk agrees
with you concerning holding down the power button for a few seconds to do a hard
shut down. But, I still am not quite convinced.
I mean no disrespect to Microsoft or
especially to you Gerald, but, I have corrupted Windows on two different Win7
pc’s so bad that Win7 had to be reinstalled. This happened after holding
the power button down for around 7 seconds to force a shut down.
I do realize that if windows freezes, then,
there is no other option but to do the forced shut down.
So, I still do not have a
definitive answer but, the next time Windows only gives me the option to first
update before shutting down, I will hold down the shift key while hitting enter
on the update and shutdown button.
Thanks for your
post.
James B
: Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 7:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I do an emergency shut down with
windows 10?
You can always use the tried and trued method of quickly shutting down your
computer: pressing and holding the power button. While shutting down
a computer this way was a problem on older machines, it is much safer nowadays
on a Windows 10 system, especially if you close all running applications
first. And placing your system as far away from a window as possible will
minimize the potential for damage from a lightning strike.
Gerald
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On 3/14/2019 7:39 AM, James Bentley wrote:
With printers, scanners, sound systems, and more, Digging around and
unplugging every thing for two computer systems quickly is not an option for
me. And, I have often heard that handling cables and wireing is not such
a good idea when strong lightning is in the immediate area. I’m
afraid that a quick shut down seems to be my only choice.
I have decided to call MS tech support to find out if they have a rapid
shut down option for me. Surely businesses with hundreds of PC’s are not
stuck waiting for updates when strong lightning is in the immediate
area.
Thanks again,
James B
From: wayne
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 7:01 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I do an emergency shut down with
windows 10?
First of all, James, you're very welcome, and now
that I have a clear picture of your situation I have a few more solutions for
you. Well when it comes to shutting down a computer, and having to wait on
windows updates, I don't know how long it would take to update windows and
shut down, unless it is a very large windows update. The following may work
quite well for you. You can purchase uninterupted power supply that will
supply power for an hour or longer. Without more information I can't suggest
which one for you to get. Hopefully other honest people in your area can help.
This means that with a power supply you can unplug the power supply from the
wall, and your computer will continue to operate for an hour or longer. This
is important, you must choose an uninterupted power supply big enough to do
this. If the other concern is static electricity then you can do
something I've thought about doing over the years, and that is to turn the
place your living in, into a faraday cage. If you do you it and do it right
you'll have absolutely no problems with static electricity.It's good to hear
that you have all your equipment plugged into surge protectors. That is one
thing that all the uninterupted power supplys have. In fact the business I'm
in depends on safety, security and reliability. One last thing, anybody
connected to the internet with an eithernet cable when a thunder storm just
starts to brewing, should have away to unplug the eithernet cable from
the internet. Happy and safe computing. If you have any other questions, just
ask. you can contact me at
greenwood33@...
or you could visit us at
Wayne
Original Message -----
From:
James Bentley
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 1:54
AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I do an
emergency shut down with windows 10?
Hi Wayne and all,
Fortunately, all of my systems here are wireless. So, my concerns
are limited to being able to do a rapid shut down of all computers as fast
as possible.
I will experiment with your suggestion concerning changing what the
power button does. But, I do kind of have the feeling that Windows is
just going to install the updates before shutting down. There goes my
chances for a rapid shut down while massive lightning bolts are hitting
power lines, cable/internet lines, etc..
It may sound a bit like I am exaggerating but I have lived 83 feet up
on a hill for around 24 years. All of my long time neighbors can
attest to multiple lightning strikes and thousands of dollars of fried
electronics over the years. I use $75.00, to $100.00, surge protectors
on every thing but the static electricity in the air is still
occasionally quite strong.
I am starting to wonder why Microsoft hasn’t considered the possibility
that their customers might need to do a rapid shut down of their
computers. I can understand why some are sticking with Win7 while MS
slowly irons out more wrinkles in Win10.
Wayne, thanks for your advice and offer for further assistance.
Regards,
James B
From: wayne
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 4:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] How do I do an emergency shut down with
windows 10?
James, when it comes to shutting down computers
in the beginning of a thunder storm, to keep your computers as safe as
possible, I feel that these are somethings you should do. Have an
uninterupted power supply on each of the computers. There are different
uninterupted power supplys. If your computers are wired via eithernet cable
then you can buy an uninterupted power supply wi the eithernet ports for
extra protection. In addition you can buy an eithernet kill switch to take
them offline. Of course the absolute safest thing to do is, if it's
convenient or if you could arrange for it to be convenient is to unplug that
eithernet cable from the computer. Put it away from the computer in a glass
container, however if your computers are wireless connected the eithernet
cable cautions won't apply. Lightning is a very powerful thing, and I'm sad
to hear that you lost a computer due to the thunder storm. As far as being
able to shut down the computer quickly, however I'm not sure what would
happen if you adjusted your power management settings to shut down
your computer when you tap the power button. I believe that it will go ahead
and shut down properly in about 5 or 10 seconds. The thing I don't know is
if you have pending updates if it would bring that up before it shuts down.
That would be something to try, during times when there isn't a thunder
storm.If it does bring up a dialog wanting you to install updates before you
shut down then you definitely need that uninterupted power supply. and also
a wireless connection so you can get that done. If you need to contact
me,
greenwood33@...
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From:
James Bentley
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 12:06
AM
Subject: [TechTalk] How do I do an
emergency shut down with windows 10?
Hi all,
Several times now, I have run to all of my computers to quickly shut
them down because a very strong thunderstorm is hitting my area.
Occasionally, Win10 does not give me the option to shutdown.
Sometimes, I only get the option to install updates and then shut
down. That takes a lot of time and we have very strong thunderstorms
that hit with little or no warning.
I lost a desktop in July because I did not get to it fast
enough.
I maybe could do a forced shut down. But, I have heard for
years now, that forced shut downs have a small risk of corrupting
data.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks,
James B
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