I thought Consumer Celular was a national company.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Monte Single
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 4:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

There is no consumer celluar  where I live.
The cheapest data plan would cost me 21   dollars a month.
No Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: April-02-19 1:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

With Consumer Cellular and some other providers, the cheapest data plan is five dollars a month, sixty dollars a year.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 1:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Simple.
It's all about  money.
Even  the cheapest data package will cost  about  Three hundred dollars a year above the  regular phone costs.
Three hundred a year will buy me a new computer every second year.If I want to use Siri or Dick  or Jane, I can do that with my wifi at home or public locations such as libraries, coffee shops, etc.
When  one is on a fixed income,  one thinks twice before adding more bills to the monthly budget.
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: April-02-19 9:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Monte,
I just would like to know why you have such an aversion to using Siri. It makes no sense that you would want voice commands but not use Siri which is so much mor powerful and accessible. If using voice commands as with the flip phones, there are a limited number of commands that you can use with no flexibility that Siri can give you. Why bother with a smart phone if you intend to use it like a flip phone?

-----Original Message-----
From: chris judge
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 1:39 AM
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Yes, but the voice command he used worked because siri heard him and responded to his command. What people are trying to explain to you, regardless of what your Samsung  rugby does, is that with the IPhone, it's siri that makes these voice commands possible.
In short, the iPhone does not have such capabilities without using siri.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: April 1, 2019 5:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

Did you see Curtis's last message to Carolyn.  He  stated how to place a call with a voice command What I am talking about is called a "voice command"
It has nothing to do  with screenreaders  or Siri I have a Samsung rugby, it is a flip phone. I can give voice commands for several things like, Check battery, Check time, Signal strength, New message etc.
These voice commands were on many brands and models of phone before Siri existed.
My aim is to use an I phone without a paid  data package.
I can do this by using my wifi at home     and free public spots.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: April-01-19 1:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

HI Monte,
You can't just pick up the phone and tell it to call......... that is not going to happen.  If you wanted to do that, you could press the power button on the right side of the phone to alert Siri, and just tell her to call a name in your contacts, or just tell her to dial......... Now, if you have Siri enabled on the lock screen, you can just say, hey Siri call........ or just say dial, and read out the number to her.  Although, if you find out any different, please let me know.  I use Siri for all I can.  Monte, you need to understand voiceover is the screen reader on the iPhone in which it reads what is on the screen, just like JAWS is the screen reader on our computers.  Either screen reader will not follow voice commands. Oh sure, you can make a phone call without using Siri, you would need to go in to your contacts, and search for the name of the person who you want to call, and you can double tap on it, and I think the call will go through, although, I haven't used this method in over 4 years though.
Now, if I'm wrong please someone chime in here.
Apple Accessibility Help Line in the US 877-204-3930.

I Hope this helps.
Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 8:55 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

No, I do want to use voiceover.
I don't want to use Siri, much.
That's it.
What is  the apple accessibility number?
Thanks,
Monte
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: April-01-19 12:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] I phone questions

The only thing that I know about this subject of Siri, is that in settings, you can actually turn Siri off so you don't have to deal with her.  Me personally, she is my personal assistant and I could never do that.  The bottom line is that I think what Monte is saying is that he doesn't want to use Siri at all and if that's the case, he should just turn her off.  I think you have to go to Siri settings and there is something in that section.  Monte, you could also call Apple Accessibility and they will be able to show you how to turn Siri off. This is what I am getting from all of these messages that he doesn't want voice over or Siri on at all.

Shelly

On 3/31/2019 8:17 PM, janet gross wrote:

Hi Carolyn,
When my phone is locked, I can say hey Siri dial etc., and she does, I
can also just press the power button and when Siri comes about, I read
out the number I want Siri to call.  Although, I do have Siri set to
appear even when I have my phone locked.
I've never heard of placing a call without using Siri, unless I go in
to my contacts or my favorites, and double tap on the number I want to call.
Maybe Curtis can explaine further though.
Janet




-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 5:22 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Curtis, do you just unlock your screen and say call, or do you push
the Siri button with her turned off?

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions

Thank you Curtis.

You  gave me the answer  to one of my  first questions.

I can place a call with a voice command without using siri.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: March-31-19 12:38 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



yes you can just say call, "contact name" or number area code plus
number or even within your own area code without siri.


Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA


On 3/30/2019 7:41 AM, Monte Single wrote:

IK,



I'll state the question again



Can I make a  call on the I phone using my voice without using Siri.

Can I just tell the phone to call a numberSSS



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[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: March-30-19 8:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



If you have a WiFi connection then you can use it through the WiFi.

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From: Monte Single
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Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 10:20 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



Well, No.  I am more interested in using the phone as a cell phone and
not a smart phone.  I don't want to pay for a data pack which I would
hardly ever want to use.

I just do not like the idea  of having to be on line to use a phone.

Yes, I have a basic cell phone but a smart phone may have some
additional features I can use without having to have a data package.



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[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of david
Sent: March-30-19 8:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] i phone questions



well;

if your thinking of getting a new phone, and want to use Siri, you may
want to lern how to spell the name.



it's not, S e r i,  it's, S I r i.

just like yu would want folks to spell your name correctly.





       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power
of a dream.



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  <main@TechTalk.groups.io
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2019 9:37 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
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Subject: [TechTalk] i phone questions



As usual, I'm  thinking   about getting a
new phone; well, a new used phone.

Is it true that in order to dictate a text message, I have to be
online with Seri?

Also can I use voice commands to make calls without being online with
Seri?

I'm thinking about getting an I phone 6 or 7.

Thanks,

Monte

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