Here is a tutorial I did many
years ago. Before disabling ribbons, or at least deciding you
want to permanently disable them, I hope you give ribbons a
good chance. In essence, all they are are another way of
organizing menus in a different interface.
You move to the ribbons with
alt. You move from ribbon to ribbon with the left and right
arrow keys, just as you move from menu to menu. When you are
on a ribbon you want to move through, instead of up and down
arrowing, you tab and shift tab. that is the essence of
ribbons. There is more to know but if you know that, you know
the general organization of ribbons.
Here is the tutorial, under my
I'll provide a brief tutorial
based on what I wrote years ago of how to work with ribbons.
I've added a little to it here.
I don't know how the organization
of Windows has changed in Windows 10 but this description
should allow you to look through the Windows ribbons, or any
other ribbons, and see how things are organized.
First, I'll discuss a structure
found in later versions of Windows that you need to know
about-- the split button.
One thing you will see as you look around ribbons and in other
places in Windows are split buttons. A split button often
allows you to see more options than just the default action.
Let's take an example.
Let's say you come across a split button that says shut down
Windows. If you press enter on that button, Windows will shut
down. That is the default action. Split buttons often show
more options if you either right arrow while on the button or
down arrow. As an example, if you are on the shut down split
button, you can right arrow and a list of options will open.
the items in the list include sleep, hibernate, restart, and
others. You up or down arrow through the list or use the
short cut commands you hear announced as you move through the
list. the letter shortcuts often take actions without
pressing enter so be careful when using them, just as you are
So, let's review. You find a
split button that says shut down. If you press enter, the
computer will shut down. If you right arrow, other options may
be displayed. Or if you down arrow, other options may be
displayed. A split button won't work with both methods. One
method, either right arrowing or down arrowing will do so if
it can be done with the button. Try both methods if you don't
know which one might work. If you are on a tool bar which
extends across the screen from left to right, down arrowing
will open additional options. If you think about this, it
makes sense. If you are in a menu, down arrowing will move
you to the next item in the menu. So you right arrow on the
split button to cause it to display more options. In a tool
bar that extends across the screen from left to right, right
arrowing will move you to the next item in the tool bar. So
you down arrow when on the split button to cause it to display
more options. But some tool bars run up and down the screen,
as menus do. And at times, you may not be sure which way a
structure extends on screen. So, as I said, if you are not
sure or don't know, try both methods of causing the split
button to display more options. Often, one of them will work.
If you open the options a split button offers and don't want
to work with them, arrow in the opposite direction to move out
of them. For example, if you right arrowed to open more
options, left arrow.
Some split buttons don't do anything when you right arrow or
down arrow. In that case, open them with alt down arrow.
Then tab through the additional options. I've almost never
worked in this way with split buttons but if you want to close
a split button, try alt up arrow if you've used alt down arrow
to open it.
Now, to ribbons themselves.
Regarding ribbons, much of the
complaining about them is not warranted if you understand how
they work and how to use short cut commands effectively and
efficiently. and I would strongly recommend against using the
JAWS virtual menus, no matter what the JAWS training material
says about ribbons being difficult to use. the training
material is just plain wrong and using virtual menus, you will
be unnecessarily dependent on one screen-reader. There are
other disadvantages to using them which I won't go into here.
Try looking at ribbons and doing
what is described below in wordpad. Everyone with Windows 7
has Wordpad on their machine. Wordpad provides a good
environment to look at and practice working with ribbons.
The essence of working with
ribbons is this:
Press alt to move to the upper ribbon.
You will probably be on an item that says home tab. Items on
the upper ribbon are announced as tabs such as home tab, view
To see what ribbons are available, right or left arrow
repeatedly to move through the ribbons. Move in one
direction to move through all of them, just as you would to
move through all the menus.
For this demonstration, just so
we are all doing the same thing, move with the right arrow.
When you get back to where you started, you can keep right
arrowing to move through the items again, if you wish. You
can move through all the items as many times as you want. Or
you can move with the left arrow whenever you want to move in
the opposite direction.
Stop on view. Then start
tabbing. You will move through all items in what is called
the lower ribbon that are in the view ribbon.
In other words you tab to see the
items in a ribbon once you move to it. Tab moves you forward
through the items, shift tab moves you backword.
So tab and shift tab are used instead of up and down arrow.
Many items in the lower ribbon
are buttons. Use either the space bar or enter to activate
the button. You may find a button that opens a menu and if you
press enter or the space bar, you will then be in a menu.
Each time you move to an item,
you will hear the short cut command to work with that item.
But JAWS has a bug and you often won't. To hear the short
cut, use the command JAWS key tab. If you are using the
default JAWS key, it is either insert.
Try tabbing to an item in a
Wordpad ribbon and using the command insert tab. You will
hear some extraneous information. The last thing you will
hear is the short cut sequence. You can repeat the
information by repeating the command as often as you want.
Let's look at an item which is
usually called the application menu. Return to the main
program window in wordpad by closing the ribbons. You can
either press escape repeatedly, if necessary, or you can press
alt once. Now, open the ribbons again with alt.
Start right arrowing until you get to the application menu.
You will hear application menu and then something like button
drop down grid. Never mind drop down grid. It's a
description you don't have to worry about. The important
things are that you are on a button and at the application
menu. Press enter or the space bar to activate the button.
Activating the button opens the menu. Start down arrowing.
you will hear all the short cut commands necessary to open an
item or take an action. When you got to the menu item, you
heard alt f. When you open the menu and move through it, you
will hear all the letters announced. for example, if you down
arrow to save as, you will hear alt f a. that means that,
when you are in the main program window, you open the menu as
you always did, alt f, then type a. Alt f opens the menau and
a then opens save as. Ribbon programs have one menu and you
should look through it. Many important and common commands
and interfaces such as options may be there. By options, I
mean the kind of options interface you used to find in the
Now the we have seen the menu,
let's look at the ribbons structure some more.
To review, and add more information, as you have seen, you can
move to the ribbon interface with alt. Then right and left
arrow, just as you would move from menu to menu.
You can also move to a ribbon using alt and a letter. So, alt
h takes you to the home ribbon. Alt v takes you to the view
ribbon, etc. Once you are on the ribbon you want to work
with, tab to move forward through the items in a ribbon.
Shift tab to move back through the items. So tab and shift
tab are used instead of up and down arrow.
Ribbons are divided into categories which you will hear
announced as you tab. for example, in an e-mail program, a
ribbon may have a category named respond. You may hear this
announced as respond tool bar. As you tab, you will hear
commands such as reply and forward in the respond category.
When you hear a category announced, don't tab until you hear
everything spoken. You will miss the first command in the
category if you do. I'm talking about working with an
there are often many more commands and items in a ribbon than
in a menu. So memorize command sequences for items you know
you will use regularly.
As I said, there are different categories in ribbons to help
organize items. You can quickly jump from category to
category in a ribbon to help you see if there is a category
you want to look through.
Move to a ribbon in Wordpad. For example, alt h for hhome or
alt v for view.
Then repeatedly issue the command control right arrow to move
forward from category to category and control left arrow to
move back. When you get to a category you want to hear the
items in, start tabbing. Of course, you can shift tab to move
Open a ribbon in Wordpad and tab
through it to see how it is organized by moving through it.
Then use control right arrow to move by category and tab to
see what is in a category.
Commands such as control o,
control n, control s, control r, etc. are mostly retained in
that use ribbons, though you won't hear them announced. If you
don't already know them, you'll have to find them in ways such
as by looking at a list of keyboard commands for the program.
Such lists are often available in the help for the program. If
you already know the commands from having used an older
version of the program, most or perhaps even all of the
commands you know will work.
From: Marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2019 12:28 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] WinAero Tweaker and Ribbons
So, I downloaded WinAero Tweaker (again) to see if I could have a
better luck, something different from the last time I tried it.
Nothing has changed apparently.
This being said, two questions:
Is there a place where I can find a tutorial about this program?
Also, my reason for downloading this program is the ribbon
disabler and I can't find it. Is there a way of, instead of
downloading this Winaero Tweaker, download all programs made by
Winaero so far in a ZIP package or something like that?
Bonus question. Please, where can I found a tutorial explaining
the use of ribbons with a screen reader from scratch? I'll love
to have ribbons disabled but I also want to learn things as they
Thanks a lot.
Sent from a galaxy far, far away.
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