Re: New Laptop

Evan Reese

Oh sure, you can get a laptop with an SSD pretty cheaply. The problem is that you won't get as much storage on an SSD than you will for the same money with a traditional hard drive. So I would still need a hard drive for the stuff that won't fit on the SSD in the laptop. And, as I said, spinning hard drives also keep getting cheaper. Kryder's Law is still alive and well.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lenron
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Laptop

You can get a good SSD pretty cheap these days. Things that make the
speed worth it to me. I game, I deal with programs for converting
video and audio a lot. Last but not least music production, My main
drive is an SSD, but I am thinking to get another for all my sample
libraries soon. Things seem to load fast enough with the 7200 RPM
drive, but if I can find a good deal on a 1 or 2 tb drive it's what I
am going for. I am pretty sure you can find a nice computer with an
SSD for less than 600 bucks. If you can't getting a computer with out
and adding one later still wouldn't be a bad idea.

On 11/30/19, Evan Reese <mentat1@...> wrote:
Oh I’m sure I could tell the difference if I got an SSD. The problem is that
my bank account will tell a much bigger difference than any difference that
matters to me. <smile>
Prices are coming down, but solid state drives are still substantially more
expensive than mechanical drives, which are also still decreasing in price.
If SSD’s ever catch up to hard drives in cost, then I will get one.

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Laptop

And how do you use your computer? You may use it in ways that it matters.
Or maybe you just want speed to have and experience it. People who express
such opinions should put them in context so that others can assess what is
being said.

And again, I never made such a ridiculous statement, that is, I never said
you can't tell the difference.

----- Original Message -----

From: Lenron
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Laptop

Oh you can for sure tell the difference. No way would I buy a computer
with out on SSD, at least not one I was going to use as my main

On 11/30/19, enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@...> wrote:
wern't you the person suggesting that many people couldn't tell the
difference between an HDD and SSD?

On 11/30/2019 8:09 AM, Gene wrote:
If you spend money fopr a top of the line machine, it is out of date,
by a technical definition because something new and faster is out.
Most people don't people aren't going to be affected by whether a
processor is a little slower por not. they are not gamers, they don't
run programs that require the kind of speed where a processor that is
somewhat slower than the fastest in the moderate price range matters,
and they might want to save one-hundred or more dollars even if money
isn't particularly tight. Many people spend more money than they need
to be3cause they don't know how to determine what they need based on
their use and how they anticipate using their computer in future.
Many people have computers that are years old, five or older, and they
are perfectly happy with thir technically out of date machines that
are plenty fast for them. and if they really do want more speed, they
would get a lot more speed by getting an SSD and maybe, though not at
all necessarily, by adding more memory. Word processing, e-mail,
browssing, streaming, such uses don't require gaming or near gaming
speed processors.
----- Original M3essage -----
*From:* enes sarıbaş <mailto:enes.saribas@...>
*Sent:* Saturday, November 30, 2019 5:44 AM
*To:* <>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] New Laptop

I was extremely clear in my message. The processors on the provided
model are out of date, and unles they have major financial troubles,
most people will want an up-to-date processor on their devices.
Otherwise the machine is practically aged even before you open the
box. An older processor machine will likely need to be replaced sooner
as it is behind the times, and might not be able to handdle
applications earlier than a more current machine.
On 11/25/2019 8:56 AM, Gene wrote:
If the typical buyer wants to spend more money to future proof
something they will probably find satisfactory for years, until they
want to replace the computer because of age or newer features, that's
their choice, but most users don't need to worry when they buy a
reasonably fast computer now unless they dramatically change how they
use computers.
Also, in your last message, you said you weren't most users. I
didn't say nor imply that you are. But saying something is out of
date with no explanation may lead some or many people to think that
it isn't something they should consider when they might very well
find it very satisfactory.
I'm saying that such commments about outdatedness and future proofing
should be put in context. Not doing so may cause many people to
think or wonder if they should spend more, perhaps a lot more, money
than they need to.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* enes sarıbaş <mailto:enes.saribas@...>
*Sent:* Sunday, November 24, 2019 3:19 PM
*To:* <>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] New Laptop

It isn't slow. But buyers might want a current model of processor to
future proof it. This likely isn't an issue though, as Acer probably
updated this line with iether a ninth or 10th gen processor choice.
On 11/24/2019 3:03 PM, James Bentley wrote:

Unless the buyer needs a gaming laptop or is editing a lot of
videos, I can’t believe this laptop is too slow.

I love the way that I can run a virus scan, play music from Winamp,
and have half a dozen Chrome windows open while I have Outlook and
HJPad all open.

I haven’t used the USB 3.1 yet but I can write a 36 gig image to a
drive using moderate compression in about 20 minutes with USB 2,
while still going through email in Outlook.

James B

*From:* <> *On Behalf
Of *Gene
*Sent:* Sunday, November 24, 2019 2:11 PM
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] New Laptop

Outdated for what or in what way? Do you mean that it isn't as fast
as newer ones? I would expect that is of no consequence for a user
who doesn't use very resource intensive programs, in other words,
for the majority of users.

A top of the line computer is technically outdated within months of
purchase if, for some reason, you need or want the absolutely newest
and most powerful technology.


----- Original Message -----

*From:*enes sarıbaş <mailto:enes.saribas@...>

*Sent:*Sunday, November 24, 2019 1:38 PM

*To:* <>

*Subject:*Re: [TechTalk] New Laptop

That is a nice unit, especially because of the ethernet port and
number pad. The processor is outdated now, but when I replace my
five year old laptop next year or so, I want something like this
probably, though I would go for an I7 if it was available.

On 11/22/2019 3:10 PM, James Bentley wrote:

Hi Amy,

I recently bought an Acer 15.6 inch 4 pound laptop from Amazon.
It is very slim and really feels comfortable to hold in my
hands. It is extremely fast and it has a number pad. I like it
better than any laptop that I have ever owned. This is my fifth
laptop in about 4 years. Its battery life for me is over 11
hours. Note, I have my screen resolution turned down pretty low
because I do not need to see the screen. It does not have a DVD
reader/burner. It also does not have an SD card reader. I have
an external DVD reader/burner and an external SSD card reader.
I haven’t needed either in over 2 years.

Maybe there will be some sale prices next week. I can’t say
for sure. For right now, the price is $509, plus state sales
tax with free delivery.

Here are a few details along with an Amazon link.

*Product description*

Style:*Notebook only*

Acer Aspire 5 A515-54-51DJ comes with these high level specs:
8th Generation Intel Core i5-8265U Processor 1.6GHz with Turbo
Boost Technology up to 3.9GHz (6MB Smart cache), Windows 10
Home, 15.6 Inches Full HD (1920 x 1080) widescreen LED-backlit
IPS Display, Intel UHD Graphics 620, 8GB DDR4 Memory, 256GB PCIe
NVMe SSD, True Harmony Technology, Two Built-in Stereo Speakers,
Acer Purified.Voice Technology with Two Built-in Microphones,
802.11ac WiFi featuring 2x2 MU-MIMO technology (Dual-Band 2.4GHz
and 5GHz), 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 port),
Bluetooth 4.2, Back-lit Keyboard, Acer Fingerprint Reader
supporting Windows Hello, HD Webcam (1280 x 720), 1 - USB 3.1
(Type-C) port (Gen 1 up to 5 Gbps), 2 - USB 3.1 Gen 1 Port (one
with Power-off Charging), 1 - USB 2.0 Port, 1 - HDMI Port with
HDCP support, Lithium-Ion Battery, Up to 9.5-hours Battery Life,
3.97 lbs. | 1.8 kg (system unit only) (NX.HG5AA.001)

-----Original Message-----
From: <>
<> <> On
Behalf Of Amy Gordon
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:53 PM
To: <>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Laptop

Sorry I plan to carry it some but wont be all the time or
anything so

not really worried about how light it is but I do want a number

definately. One that has long battery life as possable as well.


On 11/22/19, Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...>>

> You don't need a powerful computer. But you haven't said
anything about

> things like if you want a lighter computer or a heavier one.
are you going

> to carry it around much or don't you plan to carry it enough
so size and

> weight matter much. Do you want a model with a numpad or
don't you care

> about that?


> Gene

> ----- Original Message -----


> From: Amy Gordon

> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:32 PM

> To: TechTalk

> Subject: [TechTalk] New Laptop



> Hi all I currently have a Dell laptop in which I have had
trouble with

> ever since I bought it about 5 years ago. It is getting worse
so I

> know there will be sales coming soon. I currently use Jaws on

> computer and mostly use it for internet tasks like email, taking

> surveys, facebook etc. Was wondering what suggestions you
have for a

> new laptop as far as specs and best place to buy from? Thanks

> Amy







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