Oh I’m sure I could tell the difference if I got an SSD. The problem
is that my bank account will tell a much bigger difference than any
difference that matters to me. <smile>
Prices are coming down, but solid state drives are still
substantially more expensive than mechanical drives, which are also still
decreasing in price. If SSD’s ever catch up to hard drives in cost, then I
will get one.
And how do you use your computer? You
may use it in ways that it matters. Or maybe you just want speed to
have and experience it. People who express such opinions should put
them in context so that others can assess what is being said.
And again, I never made such a ridiculous statement,
that is, I never said you can't tell the difference.
Gene
----- Original Message
-----
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Laptop
Oh you can for sure tell the difference. No way would I
buy a computer
with out on SSD, at least not one I was going to use as
my main
machine.
On 11/30/19, enes sarıbaş <
enes.saribas@...> wrote:
>
wern't you the person suggesting that many people couldn't tell
the
> difference between an HDD and SSD?
>
> On
11/30/2019 8:09 AM, Gene wrote:
>> If you spend money fopr a top
of the line machine, it is out of date,
>> by a technical
definition because something new and faster is out.
>> Most
people don't people aren't going to be affected by whether a
>>
processor is a little slower por not. they are not gamers, they
don't
>> run programs that require the kind of speed where a
processor that is
>> somewhat slower than the fastest in the
moderate price range matters,
>> and they might want to save
one-hundred or more dollars even if money
>> isn't particularly
tight. Many people spend more money than they need
>> to
be3cause they don't know how to determine what they need based
on
>> their use and how they anticipate using their computer in
future.
>> Many people have computers that are years old, five or
older, and they
>> are perfectly happy with thir technically out
of date machines that
>> are plenty fast for them. and if
they really do want more speed, they
>> would get a lot more
speed by getting an SSD and maybe, though not at
>> all
necessarily, by adding more memory. Word processing,
e-mail,
>> browssing, streaming, such uses don't require gaming
or near gaming
>> speed processors.
>> Gene
>>
----- Original M3essage -----
>> *From:* enes sarıbaş <
mailto:enes.saribas@...>
>>
*Sent:* Saturday, November 30, 2019 5:44 AM
>> *To:*
main@TechTalk.groups.io <
mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] New Laptop
>>
>> I was
extremely clear in my message. The processors on the provided
>>
model are out of date, and unles they have major financial
troubles,
>> most people will want an up-to-date processor on
their devices.
>> Otherwise the machine is practically aged even
before you open the
>> box. An older processor machine will
likely need to be replaced sooner
>> as it is behind the times,
and might not be able to handdle
>> applications earlier than a
more current machine.
>> On 11/25/2019 8:56 AM, Gene
wrote:
>>> If the typical buyer wants to spend more money to
future proof
>>> something they will probably find
satisfactory for years, until they
>>> want to replace the
computer because of age or newer features, that's
>>> their
choice, but most users don't need to worry when they buy a
>>>
reasonably fast computer now unless they dramatically change how
they
>>> use computers.
>>> Also, in your last
message, you said you weren't most users. I
>>> didn't
say nor imply that you are. But saying something is out
of
>>> date with no explanation may lead some or many people
to think that
>>> it isn't something they should consider when
they might very well
>>> find it very
satisfactory.
>>> I'm saying that such commments about
outdatedness and future proofing
>>> should be put in
context. Not doing so may cause many people to
>>> think
or wonder if they should spend more, perhaps a lot more,
money
>>> than they need to.
>>>
Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:*
enes sarıbaş <
mailto:enes.saribas@...>
>>>
*Sent:* Sunday, November 24, 2019 3:19 PM
>>> *To:*
main@TechTalk.groups.io <
mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>>>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] New Laptop
>>>
>>> It
isn't slow. But buyers might want a current model of processor
to
>>> future proof it. This likely isn't an issue though, as
Acer probably
>>> updated this line with iether a ninth or
10th gen processor choice.
>>> On 11/24/2019 3:03 PM, James
Bentley wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Unless the buyer
needs a gaming laptop or is editing a lot of
>>>> videos, I
can’t believe this laptop is too
slow.
>>>>
>>>> I love the way that I can
run a virus scan, play music from Winamp,
>>>> and have
half a dozen Chrome windows open while I have Outlook
and
>>>> HJPad all
open.
>>>>
>>>> I haven’t used the USB 3.1
yet but I can write a 36 gig image to a
>>>> drive using
moderate compression in about 20 minutes with USB 2,
>>>>
while still going through email in
Outlook.
>>>>
>>>> James
B
>>>>
>>>> *From:*main@TechTalk.groups.io
<
main@TechTalk.groups.io> *On
Behalf
>>>> Of *Gene
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday,
November 24, 2019 2:11 PM
>>>> *To:*
main@TechTalk.groups.io>>>>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] New
Laptop
>>>>
>>>> Outdated for what or in
what way? Do you mean that it isn't as fast
>>>> as
newer ones? I would expect that is of no consequence for a
user
>>>> who doesn't use very resource intensive programs,
in other words,
>>>> for the majority of
users.
>>>>
>>>> A top of the line computer
is technically outdated within months of
>>>> purchase if,
for some reason, you need or want the absolutely
newest
>>>> and most powerful
technology.
>>>>
>>>>
Gene
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message
-----
>>>>
>>>> *From:*enes sarıbaş <
mailto:enes.saribas@...>
>>>>
>>>>
*Sent:*Sunday, November 24, 2019 1:38
PM
>>>>
>>>> *To:*main@TechTalk.groups.io
<
mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>>>>
>>>>
*Subject:*Re: [TechTalk] New
Laptop
>>>>
>>>> That is a nice unit,
especially because of the ethernet port
and
>>>> number pad. The processor is outdated now, but
when I replace my
>>>> five year old laptop next year or
so, I want something like this
>>>> probably, though I
would go for an I7 if it was
available.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/22/2019 3:10 PM,
James Bentley
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi
Amy,
>>>>
>>>> I
recently bought an Acer 15.6 inch 4 pound laptop from
Amazon.
>>>> It is very slim and
really feels comfortable to hold in
my
>>>> hands. It is
extremely fast and it has a number pad. I like
it
>>>> better than any laptop that
I have ever owned. This is my
fifth
>>>> laptop in about 4
years. Its battery life for me is over
11
>>>> hours. Note, I have
my screen resolution turned down pretty
low
>>>> because I do not need to
see the screen. It does not have a
DVD
>>>> reader/burner. It
also does not have an SD card reader. I
have
>>>> an external DVD
reader/burner and an external SSD card
reader.
>>>> I haven’t needed
either in over 2
years.
>>>>
>>>>
Maybe there will be some sale prices next week. I can’t
say
>>>> for sure. For right
now, the price is $509, plus state
sales
>>>> tax with free
delivery.
>>>>
>>>>
Here are a few details along with an Amazon
link.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-i5-8265U-Keyboard-Fingerprint-A515-54-51DJ/dp/B07RF2123Z/ref=pd_ybh_a_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=TTW0G4ET3D313ZV7XE7D>>>>
>>>>
*Product
description*
>>>>
>>>>
Style:*Notebook
only*
>>>>
>>>> Acer
Aspire 5 A515-54-51DJ comes with these high level
specs:
>>>> 8th Generation Intel
Core i5-8265U Processor 1.6GHz with
Turbo
>>>> Boost Technology up to
3.9GHz (6MB Smart cache), Windows
10
>>>> Home, 15.6 Inches Full HD
(1920 x 1080) widescreen
LED-backlit
>>>> IPS Display, Intel
UHD Graphics 620, 8GB DDR4 Memory, 256GB
PCIe
>>>> NVMe SSD, True Harmony
Technology, Two Built-in Stereo
Speakers,
>>>> Acer Purified.Voice
Technology with Two Built-in
Microphones,
>>>> 802.11ac WiFi
featuring 2x2 MU-MIMO technology (Dual-Band
2.4GHz
>>>> and 5GHz), 10/100/1000
Gigabit Ethernet LAN (RJ-45
port),
>>>> Bluetooth 4.2, Back-lit
Keyboard, Acer Fingerprint
Reader
>>>> supporting Windows
Hello, HD Webcam (1280 x 720), 1 - USB
3.1
>>>> (Type-C) port (Gen 1 up to
5 Gbps), 2 - USB 3.1 Gen 1 Port
(one
>>>> with Power-off Charging),
1 - USB 2.0 Port, 1 - HDMI Port
with
>>>> HDCP support, Lithium-Ion
Battery, Up to 9.5-hours Battery
Life,
>>>> 3.97 lbs. | 1.8 kg
(system unit only)
(NX.HG5AA.001)
>>>>
>>>>
-----Original Message-----
>>>>
From:
main@TechTalk.groups.io <
mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
>>>>
<
main@TechTalk.groups.io> <
mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
On
>>>> Behalf Of Amy
Gordon
>>>> Sent: Friday, November
22, 2019 1:53 PM
>>>> To:
main@techtalk.groups.io <
mailto:main@techtalk.groups.io>
>>>>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New
Laptop
>>>>
>>>>
Sorry I plan to carry it some but wont be all the time
or
>>>> anything
so
>>>>
>>>> not
really worried about how light it is but I do want a number
pad
>>>>
>>>>
definately. One that has long battery life as possable as
well.
>>>>
>>>>
Thanks
>>>>
>>>> On
11/22/19, Gene <
gsasner@... <
mailto:gsasner@...>>
>>>>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
> You don't need a powerful computer. But you haven't
said
>>>> anything
about
>>>>
>>>> >
things like if you want a lighter computer or a heavier
one.
>>>> are you
going
>>>>
>>>> >
to carry it around much or don't you plan to carry it
enough
>>>> so size
and
>>>>
>>>> >
weight matter much. Do you want a model with a numpad
or
>>>> don't you
care
>>>>
>>>> >
about
that?
>>>>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>>>> >
Gene
>>>>
>>>> >
----- Original Message
-----
>>>>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>>>> >
From: Amy
Gordon
>>>>
>>>>
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 1:32
PM
>>>>
>>>> >
To:
TechTalk
>>>>
>>>>
> Subject: [TechTalk] New
Laptop
>>>>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>>>> >
Hi all I currently have a Dell laptop in which I have
had
>>>> trouble
with
>>>>
>>>> >
ever since I bought it about 5 years ago. It is getting
worse
>>>> so
I
>>>>
>>>> >
know there will be sales coming soon. I currently use Jaws on
my
>>>>
>>>> >
computer and mostly use it for internet tasks like email,
taking
>>>>
>>>>
> surveys, facebook etc. Was wondering what suggestions
you
>>>> have for
a
>>>>
>>>> > new
laptop as far as specs and best place to buy from?
Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
> Amy
>>>>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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