Re: windows 7 in general.

Monte Single

Please be aware that Micro Soft is still supporting micro soft security essentials for WINDOWS 7.
So, it is incorrect to say that windows 7 is no longer supported by micro soft.

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: January-22-20 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.

Hi Veronica
Firstly, I’d like to extend a warm welcome to everyone :-) I am a newcomer to the list although I have been on this list previously I think but sometime ago so hello again everyone :-) Veronica, Windows 7 is now no longer being protected by Microsoft security updates and patches. This will leave it open to critical security flaws which hackers may exploit. My strong recommendation is that you upgrade your laptop to Windows 10 at the earliest possible opportunity, using the Windows 10 media creation tool. You can still upgrade your Windows laptop for free as Microsoft have kept this option open long past its intended expiry so please take advantage of this while you still can. Word 2013 should work on Windows 10 however you can purchase an office 365 subscription which will cover all your computers and mobile devices and which will give you office Versions going forward, including updates and feature improvements. Office 365 personal edition can be had from as little as $60 on market places such as Amazon and can be digitally downloaded and installed without the need to enter any cereal or license key information. It is also available in retail packs. Very best of luck to you.

On 22 Jan 2020, at 22:11, Veronica Kirk <veronicaa.kirk@...> wrote:

Even though I have a windows 10 computer, I am still using my windows 7 laptop. Last night I used Microsoft Essentials to scan the computer for viruses, and it worked fine. All of my main programs are on the windows 7 such as Microsoft Word 2013, which I do not have on the windows 10.


-----Original Message-----
From: [] On
Behalf Of Penny Golden
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] windows 7 in general.

Thank you all for comments. I'm doing just as you say. I use Thunderbird. and i just put chrome on there. I use firefox, rarely I e.

But I never purchase anything using the computer; i have done so with my Echo; or my sis does it for me using my info.

I hope it will be all right. I just purchased a 500 gig solid state drive; and a 4 tb drive for the inside of the computer.

My current 1 terabyte drive is dated November of 2011.

Why, this dear old machine is older than I thought.

By the way, I just did get in touch with computers for the blind, and the laptop price was 185 dollars.

They cannot guarantee their batteries. of course, they're used machines. They come with win 10 and that demo of Jaws. Window Eyes also has one of those demos, or used to. I'm so stubborn that I cannot learn Jaws and love my dear old win eyes, which my sighted techie calls

Windows Eyes.

Thanks again.

So far I'm on the right track. It's when I run into trouble, I'll be back here begging you experts for your further help.

All the very best,



The old lady schoolmarm from Eastern Nebraska.

On 1/18/2020 6:12 AM, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io wrote:

Your techie is giving you sound advice. Microsoft Security
Essentials will continue to work in Windows 7 for the foreseeable future.
Database definitions continue to be updated daily, just as they
always have, and daily scans are still performed at the selected
time. If you want to continue using Windows 7 until you are ready to
upgrade to Windows 10,, be sure to use a modern browser like Google
Chrome or Mozilla Firefox to browse the web instead of IE, and use a
non-Microsoft email client like Thunderbird to maximize security.
Also, perform periodic scans with Malware Bytes, which still works
with Windows 7. Contrary to what scare mongerers like Kim Kommando
might claim, there are still good reasons to continue using Windows 7
because of all the problems users on this and other lists have
reported with Windows 10. Some users have reported updating their
Windows 7 computers successfully to Windows 10 usig the Media
Creation Tool or Update Assistant, while others have reported
problems withthe upgrade, including complete loss of sound after
Windows 10 was installed, requiring tech-savvy sighted help to
resolve. The latest buzz is over the newest version of the Chromium
Edge browser for Windows 10, which is apparently beset by all kinds
of bugs and accessibility problems, judging from the heavy traffic on
the various blindness-related tech email lists.


On 1/17/2020 10:25 PM, Penny Golden wrote:
Well, I just re-joined the list after a hiatus. I'm sure Win7 and
win10 have been going around and around.

I spoke to someone whom I trust. He is still using his xp and likes
it very much.

I explained that I thought that I had to go to win10.

His reply, in short, was this:

If you keep your paied virus up, and you like what win7 is doing,
and you don't have to change for work or some other reason, there is
no need to change.

Well, that is fine.

I understand that the virus programs are not tremendously accessible.

My computer gent, i think, believes that I should do well with
Microsoft Security Essentials.

I may be wrong about this that he thinks is okay.

He's coming at 1 pm Saturday, should weather allow. Thank you. I do
not use jaws, but win eyes; and I'm hoping to put on NVDA and learn
that. I am also thinking about a laptop and have begun the process
with computers for the blind.

Thanks for any help. try not to be too technical; i'm a user, not a
technical expert.



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