Hi everyone:
I am totally blind, and have been since birth.
Gerald, what your saying is just, bazar...
Of course blind people can use a phone without buttons.
After the introduction of the iPhone 10, apple implemented a way for VoiceOver users to go to the home screen, and app switcher.
I went from an iPhone 8 to an iPhone 11.
Don't forget about the 2016 macbook pro with its touch bar which apple also made accessible with VoiceOver.
I'm not an android user, but I'm sure companies like Samsung have made ways of making there phones accessible with services like TalkBack and that other screen reader samsung themselves developed.
if you can, I would suggest going to your local apple store and checking out the new phones. There really easy to use once you get the hang of sliding up to go home instead of pushing buttons.
then again, maybe since I'm so used to change, I really don't think about stuff like that lol.
John.
On Feb 20, 2020, at 10:01 AM, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io <bwaylimited@...> wrote:
I suspect that many "blind" consumers who use smart phones that
are completely devoid of tactile buttons are not really "blind" at
all, but visually impaired and retain some funtional vision to
navigate around a touchscreen. Those who are totally blind and
purport to use a touchscreen smart phone probably had a lot of
sighted help. Which is why smart phones with tactile keypads like
the BlindShell and Smart Vision have been introduced. So I'm
looking forward to hearing about the experiences of a totally
blind consumer using the new Samsung smart flip phone.
Gerald
On 2/20/2020 9:41 AM, Gene wrote:
Your statement about buttons is
inaccurate based on discussions I've seen on this topic
before. Most smart phones already had very few buttons, and,
as for the elimination of the home button on the I-Phone,
while I can't speak from personal experience, I've seen enough
comments on lists like this that the button's elimination
doesn't mean blind people can't use the phone. Evidently, the
screen simulates the presence of a button by vibrating. I'm
not saying I definitely understand the situation and I await
other comments but how many people have you seen say they
stopped using an I-Phone because of elimination of the home
button?
You often state the worst case
interpretation of situations.
Gene
----- Origial Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?
According to Consumer Reports, this Samsung smart flip phone
employs a new touchscreen technology that allows it to be thin
and flexible enough to be folded in half like a wallet. But in
tests, it proved to be very fragile, and CR did not recommend
it, especially in view of its very high price tag. And it would
probably not be a good choice for a blind consumer because even
unfolded the touchscreen is relatively small and has no tactile
buttons. This seems to be a growing trend in smart phones:
eliminating all physical buttons, making it virtually impossible
for a blind consumer to use the phone without some sighted help
or a lot of hands-on training.
Gerald
On 2/19/2020 9:20 PM, Mike B wrote:
Hi Lisa,
I heard about a phone like
you're describing just the other day and I think they said
that Samsung was the company producing it. From the way
the guy was describing the way it works, it sounds like
it'll be a really cool phone, but for $1300 it damn well
otta be! LOL LOL Check out the link below for a review.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 5:02 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?
Hi, all.
My semi-techno-phobic dad is going to trade in his old flip
phone soon.
He said he saw something on TV advertising a smart flip phone,
he means
a phone with the same body style as a feature flip phone but
with the
capability of a modern iPhone or Android Smart phone. I haven't
heard
anything about this. Does anyone here have any info about this
type of
phone? Brand, Wireless carrier, etc?
TIA
Lisa
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