The one thing I have not mastered on touchscreens is using the on-screen keyboard well. However, I work around that by using braille screen input and dictation. But again, those who have dexterity issues and finger sensitivity issues may have trouble using a touchscreen.
Victor
On Feb 20, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Victor via Groups.Io <victorelawrence@...> wrote:
Hello again:
For those who have lost their eyesight later in life, I can totally understand why they might have trouble using touch screens. They may have a deck stair ready issues and finger sensitivity issues that those of us who have been blind since birth or since we were very young do not have. Therefore, I can certainly see the exceptions to what we are talking about. In these cases, maybe a flip phone would be best.
Victor On Feb 20, 2020, at 12:37 PM, Jim Wohlgamuth via Groups.Io <wohlggie@...> wrote:
Hello Jerald!
Wonder what you base you conclusions on? I
personally know quite a number of totally blind iPhone users and
I personally have owned 6 or 7 touch screen phones and know of a
fairly large number of other totally blind Androind users. So
wonder if you actually took any sort of poll -scientific or
other wise to come up with your conclusions..? Yes, I had a
small amount of sighted help in getting my first iphone setup
and a bit more in getting my Android setup but using a touch
screen device is far from being difficult for the folks that I
know as well as don't know.
To answer your question as to how a totally blind
or partially sighted person uses the touch screens, we use our
fingers to navigate around the screen and locate the various
items that we wish to activate and then double tap them to
activate them. Yes, my first touch screen was a bit of a
challenge but now I would rather have a touch screen phone than
a physical key board. I do use blue tooth keyboards with my
various touch screen devices but that is more out of convenience
rather than necessity. Of course I have always been a very
inquisitive indevisual. Just my thoughts! Catch Ya later! de
<wohlggie@...><KF8LT><Jim
Wohlgamuth>.
On 20-Feb-20 10:01, Gerald Levy via
Groups.Io wrote:
I suspect that many "blind" consumers who use smart phones that
are completely devoid of tactile buttons are not really "blind"
at all, but visually impaired and retain some funtional vision
to navigate around a touchscreen. Those who are totally blind
and purport to use a touchscreen smart phone probably had a lot
of sighted help. Which is why smart phones with tactile keypads
like the BlindShell and Smart Vision have been introduced. So
I'm looking forward to hearing about the experiences of a
totally blind consumer using the new Samsung smart flip phone.
Gerald
On 2/20/2020 9:41 AM, Gene wrote:
Your statement about buttons is
inaccurate based on discussions I've seen on this topic
before. Most smart phones already had very few buttons,
and, as for the elimination of the home button on the
I-Phone, while I can't speak from personal experience, I've
seen enough comments on lists like this that the button's
elimination doesn't mean blind people can't use the phone.
Evidently, the screen simulates the presence of a button by
vibrating. I'm not saying I definitely understand the
situation and I await other comments but how many people
have you seen say they stopped using an I-Phone because of
elimination of the home button?
You often state the worst case
interpretation of situations.
Gene
----- Origial Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?
According to Consumer Reports, this Samsung smart flip phone
employs a new touchscreen technology that allows it to be thin
and flexible enough to be folded in half like a wallet. But
in tests, it proved to be very fragile, and CR did not
recommend it, especially in view of its very high price tag.
And it would probably not be a good choice for a blind
consumer because even unfolded the touchscreen is relatively
small and has no tactile buttons. This seems to be a growing
trend in smart phones: eliminating all physical buttons,
making it virtually impossible for a blind consumer to use the
phone without some sighted help or a lot of hands-on training.
Gerald
On 2/19/2020 9:20 PM, Mike B wrote:
Hi Lisa,
I heard about a phone like
you're describing just the other day and I think they said
that Samsung was the company producing it. From the way
the guy was describing the way it works, it sounds like
it'll be a really cool phone, but for $1300 it damn well
otta be! LOL LOL Check out the link below for a review.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 5:02 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?
Hi, all.
My semi-techno-phobic dad is going to trade in his old flip
phone soon.
He said he saw something on TV advertising a smart flip phone,
he means
a phone with the same body style as a feature flip phone but
with the
capability of a modern iPhone or Android Smart phone. I
haven't heard
anything about this. Does anyone here have any info about this
type of
phone? Brand, Wireless carrier, etc?
TIA
Lisa
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