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Hi There Again!
When I received my first Iphone I purchased a
blue tooth keyboard expecting to have issues with the onscreen
keyboard. After about a month to month and a half I found
myself using the external keyboard less and less. I do wish
there was a blue tooth keyboard with a numberpad so when I wish
to enter a string of numbers I could do it much easier. Good
Luck and Have A Good 1! de
On 20-Feb-20 18:19, Victor wrote:
The one thing I have not mastered on touchscreens is using
the on-screen keyboard well. However, I work around that by
using braille screen input and dictation. But again, those who
have dexterity issues and finger sensitivity issues may have
trouble using a touchscreen.
For those who have lost their eyesight later in life, I
can totally understand why they might have trouble using
touch screens. They may have a deck stair ready issues and
finger sensitivity issues that those of us who have been
blind since birth or since we were very young do not have.
Therefore, I can certainly see the exceptions to what we
are talking about. In these cases, maybe a flip phone
would be best.
On Feb 20, 2020, at 12:37 PM,
Jim Wohlgamuth via Groups.Io
Wonder what you base you
conclusions on? I personally know quite a number
of totally blind iPhone users and I personally
have owned 6 or 7 touch screen phones and know of
a fairly large number of other totally blind
Androind users. So wonder if you actually took
any sort of poll -scientific or other wise to come
up with your conclusions..? Yes, I had a small
amount of sighted help in getting my first iphone
setup and a bit more in getting my Android setup
but using a touch screen device is far from being
difficult for the folks that I know as well as
To answer your question as to how a
totally blind or partially sighted person uses the
touch screens, we use our fingers to navigate
around the screen and locate the various items
that we wish to activate and then double tap them
to activate them. Yes, my first touch screen was
a bit of a challenge but now I would rather have a
touch screen phone than a physical key board. I
do use blue tooth keyboards with my various touch
screen devices but that is more out of convenience
rather than necessity. Of course I have always
been a very inquisitive indevisual. Just my
thoughts! Catch Ya later! de
On 20-Feb-20 10:01,
Gerald Levy via Groups.Io wrote:
I suspect that many "blind" consumers who use
smart phones that are completely devoid of tactile
buttons are not really "blind" at all, but
visually impaired and retain some funtional vision
to navigate around a touchscreen. Those who are
totally blind and purport to use a touchscreen
smart phone probably had a lot of sighted help.
Which is why smart phones with tactile keypads
like the BlindShell and Smart Vision have been
introduced. So I'm looking forward to hearing
about the experiences of a totally blind consumer
using the new Samsung smart flip phone.
On 2/20/2020 9:41 AM,
about buttons is inaccurate based on
discussions I've seen on this topic before.
Most smart phones already had very few
buttons, and, as for the elimination of the
home button on the I-Phone, while I can't
speak from personal experience, I've seen
enough comments on lists like this that the
button's elimination doesn't mean blind people
can't use the phone. Evidently, the screen
simulates the presence of a button by
vibrating. I'm not saying I definitely
understand the situation and I await other
comments but how many people have you seen say
they stopped using an I-Phone because of
elimination of the home button?
You often state
the worst case interpretation of situations.
----- Origial Message
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Smart
According to Consumer Reports, this Samsung
smart flip phone employs a new touchscreen
technology that allows it to be thin and
flexible enough to be folded in half like a
wallet. But in tests, it proved to be very
fragile, and CR did not recommend it, especially
in view of its very high price tag. And it
would probably not be a good choice for a blind
consumer because even unfolded the touchscreen
is relatively small and has no tactile buttons.
This seems to be a growing trend in smart
phones: eliminating all physical buttons, making
it virtually impossible for a blind consumer to
use the phone without some sighted help or a lot
of hands-on training.
On 2/19/2020 9:20 PM,
Mike B wrote:
I heard about
a phone like you're describing just the
other day and I think they said that Samsung
was the company producing it. From the way
the guy was describing the way it works, it
sounds like it'll be a really cool phone,
but for $1300 it damn well otta be! LOL
LOL Check out the link below for a review.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020
Subject: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip
My semi-techno-phobic dad is going to trade in
his old flip phone soon.
He said he saw something on TV advertising a
smart flip phone, he means
a phone with the same body style as a feature
flip phone but with the
capability of a modern iPhone or Android Smart
phone. I haven't heard
anything about this. Does anyone here have any
info about this type of
phone? Brand, Wireless carrier, etc?