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Not if the battery is user replaceable, as it is on many cell
On 2/21/2020 8:43 AM, Monte Single
friend has an older I phone, an s e I think.
died and he had to take it to a chop to have it replaced.
Even if you
have a cell phone, new or old, you will have to go to a
phone store to get a new battery.
good oderbox case would help to prevent that and keeping
your phone pertected also helps. yes from what I know the
battery is not accessible and I think it is not able to be
accesed by the avrige person. Fromo Mich.
And why do you guys insist on evading my question? Don't sit
there and tell me that nothing can ever go wrong with an
IPhone. Something as simple as a loose battery connection
could cause it to stop working. My understanding is that the
battery is sealed and is not user accessible. A sighted
friend of mine had his IPhone sitting in a phone holder on the
dashboard of his car. He apparently hit a bump, and when he
reached his destination, he discovered that the screen was
blank. He wound up taking the phone to a phone or electronics
store(I don't know which), and it turned out that the battery
had been jostled loose. And blind pedestrians bump into
things all the time. It's just one of the hazards of being
blined. So don't tell me that things like this can never
On 2/21/2020 7:19 AM, Alex Stone wrote:
Why do you
insist on deliberately misunderstanding everything that
So you are saying that IOS is such a wonderful OS that
it is impossible for anything to go wrong and cause
complete loss of speech that simple fixes like the ones
you suggest won't resolve? And is it not true that the
latest IPhone models have no physical buttons of any
kind? If so, how do you locate the volume and home keys
if you have no speech in the first place?
On 2/21/2020 7:03 AM, chris judge
but once you learn the device you will learn that
loss of speech is usually caused by:
- Speech being
muted. Solved by a 3 finger double tap.
- Voice over
being turned off. Solved by either asking siri to
turn it on, or pressing the home key 3 times
quickly. In the case of the iPhone 10 or above,
press the power button 3 times.
- Voice over
volume being turned down. Solved by invoking a
gesture, then pressing up on the volume button.
like any other technology, Once you learn it, things
are much simpler than they seem when the device is
new to you.
Okay, let's suppose you turn on your IPhone, and
there is no speech? Then what? How do you restore
Voice Over without sighted help if you have no idea
what's causing the problem in the first place? No
operating system, not even IOS, is immune from
problems that could cause loss of speech.
On 2/21/2020 5:10 AM, chris judge
ridiculous. I’ve been totally blind since birth
and have used an IPhone since 2009. Give it a try.
I can assure you that I am really blind, and I think
I take exception to the suggestion that I’m not!
20 Feb 2020, at 15:01, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
I suspect that many "blind" consumers who use
smart phones that are completely devoid of
tactile buttons are not really "blind" at all,
but visually impaired and retain some funtional
vision to navigate around a touchscreen. Those
who are totally blind and purport to use a
touchscreen smart phone probably had a lot of
sighted help. Which is why smart phones with
tactile keypads like the BlindShell and Smart
Vision have been introduced. So I'm looking
forward to hearing about the experiences of a
totally blind consumer using the new Samsung
smart flip phone.
On 2/20/2020 9:41 AM, Gene
statement about buttons is inaccurate
based on discussions I've seen on this
topic before. Most smart phones already
had very few buttons, and, as for the
elimination of the home button on the
I-Phone, while I can't speak from personal
experience, I've seen enough comments on
lists like this that the button's
elimination doesn't mean blind people
can't use the phone. Evidently, the
screen simulates the presence of a button
by vibrating. I'm not saying I definitely
understand the situation and I await other
comments but how many people have you seen
say they stopped using an I-Phone because
of elimination of the home button?
often state the worst case interpretation
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Thursday, February 20, 2020 5:22 AM
[TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?
According to Consumer Reports, this Samsung
smart flip phone employs a new touchscreen
technology that allows it to be thin and
flexible enough to be folded in half like a
wallet. But in tests, it proved to be very
fragile, and CR did not recommend it,
especially in view of its very high price
tag. And it would probably not be a good
choice for a blind consumer because even
unfolded the touchscreen is relatively small
and has no tactile buttons. This seems to be
a growing trend in smart phones: eliminating
all physical buttons, making it virtually
impossible for a blind consumer to use the
phone without some sighted help or a lot of
On 2/19/2020 9:20 PM,
Mike B wrote:
heard about a phone like you're
describing just the other day and I
think they said that Samsung was the
company producing it. From the way the
guy was describing the way it works, it
sounds like it'll be a really cool
phone, but for $1300 it damn well otta
be! LOL LOL Check out the link below
for a review.
Take care. Mike. Sent
from my iBarstool.
Original Message -----
Wednesday, February 19, 2020 5:02 PM
[TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?
My semi-techno-phobic dad is going to trade
in his old flip phone soon.
He said he saw something on TV advertising a
smart flip phone, he means
a phone with the same body style as a
feature flip phone but with the
capability of a modern iPhone or Android
Smart phone. I haven't heard
anything about this. Does anyone here have
any info about this type of
phone? Brand, Wireless carrier, etc?