I was initially scared of the touch screen keyboard. But I kept
trying and trying and I've gotten pretty good at it as well. I am
not very fast with it, but I m very accurate. I learned the method
of editing by using the rotor to move around in a text field by word
and character and then to edit mistakes.
I would say it takes me about a half an hour to write a 250 word
I am wondering if you have been able to develop any real speed.
Sighted people have the advantage of the suggestions list--where in
if you are typing along, the words are anticipated and they appear
and can be selected by tapping on them before the need to type the
whole word. I have not mastered that feature. Is there any way a
blind person can take advantage of the suggestions list.
On 2/21/2020 5:21 AM, chris judge
I find the on-screen keyboard fine
now. What made it so was practice, practice, practice.
I wish there were some good tutorials for
learning the on screen keyboard so that more of us could
type on that keyboard as easily as sighted people do. I know
of an app called talking Taiper, but it has not been updated
in over a year. It might not be a very good tutorial anymore
and it might not be compatible with iOS 13. But if you know
braille, braille screen input is a very good way to use your
on screen keyboard. Especially if you have one of the larger
iPhones such as the iPhone 7 Plus or later.
On Feb 20, 2020, at 4:24 PM, Jim
Hi There Again!
When I received my first Iphone I purchased a
blue tooth keyboard expecting to have issues with the
onscreen keyboard. After about a month to month and a
half I found myself using the external keyboard less
and less. I do wish there was a blue tooth keyboard
with a numberpad so when I wish to enter a string of
numbers I could do it much easier. Good Luck and Have
A Good 1! de
On 20-Feb-20 18:19, Victor wrote:
The one thing I have not mastered
on touchscreens is using the on-screen keyboard
well. However, I work around that by using braille
screen input and dictation. But again, those who
have dexterity issues and finger sensitivity issues
may have trouble using a touchscreen.
For those who have lost
their eyesight later in life, I can totally
understand why they might have trouble using
touch screens. They may have a deck stair
ready issues and finger sensitivity issues
that those of us who have been blind since
birth or since we were very young do not have.
Therefore, I can certainly see the exceptions
to what we are talking about. In these cases,
maybe a flip phone would be best.
On Feb 20, 2020, at
12:37 PM, Jim Wohlgamuth via Groups.Io <wohlggie@...>
Wonder what you base you
conclusions on? I personally know quite
a number of totally blind iPhone users
and I personally have owned 6 or 7 touch
screen phones and know of a fairly large
number of other totally blind Androind
users. So wonder if you actually took
any sort of poll -scientific or other
wise to come up with your conclusions..?
Yes, I had a small amount of sighted
help in getting my first iphone setup
and a bit more in getting my Android
setup but using a touch screen device is
far from being difficult for the folks
that I know as well as don't know.
To answer your question as to how a
totally blind or partially sighted
person uses the touch screens, we use
our fingers to navigate around the
screen and locate the various items that
we wish to activate and then double tap
them to activate them. Yes, my first
touch screen was a bit of a challenge
but now I would rather have a touch
screen phone than a physical key board.
I do use blue tooth keyboards with my
various touch screen devices but that is
more out of convenience rather than
necessity. Of course I have always been
a very inquisitive indevisual. Just my
thoughts! Catch Ya later! de
On 20-Feb-20 10:01,
Gerald Levy via Groups.Io wrote:
I suspect that many "blind" consumers
who use smart phones that are completely
devoid of tactile buttons are not really
"blind" at all, but visually impaired
and retain some funtional vision to
navigate around a touchscreen. Those
who are totally blind and purport to use
a touchscreen smart phone probably had a
lot of sighted help. Which is why smart
phones with tactile keypads like the
BlindShell and Smart Vision have been
introduced. So I'm looking forward to
hearing about the experiences of a
totally blind consumer using the new
Samsung smart flip phone.
On 2/20/2020 9:41
AM, Gene wrote:
statement about buttons is
inaccurate based on discussions
I've seen on this topic before.
Most smart phones already had very
few buttons, and, as for the
elimination of the home button on
the I-Phone, while I can't speak
from personal experience, I've
seen enough comments on lists like
this that the button's elimination
doesn't mean blind people can't
use the phone. Evidently, the
screen simulates the presence of a
button by vibrating. I'm not
saying I definitely understand the
situation and I await other
comments but how many people have
you seen say they stopped using an
I-Phone because of elimination of
the home button?
state the worst case
interpretation of situations.
Origial Message -----
Thursday, February 20, 2020
Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip
According to Consumer Reports, this
Samsung smart flip phone employs a new
touchscreen technology that allows it
to be thin and flexible enough to be
folded in half like a wallet. But in
tests, it proved to be very fragile,
and CR did not recommend it,
especially in view of its very high
price tag. And it would probably not
be a good choice for a blind consumer
because even unfolded the touchscreen
is relatively small and has no tactile
buttons. This seems to be a growing
trend in smart phones: eliminating all
physical buttons, making it virtually
impossible for a blind consumer to use
the phone without some sighted help or
a lot of hands-on training.
On 2/19/2020 9:20
PM, Mike B wrote:
about a phone like you're
describing just the other day
and I think they said that
Samsung was the company
producing it. From the way the
guy was describing the way it
works, it sounds like it'll be a
really cool phone, but for $1300
it damn well otta be! LOL LOL
Check out the link below for a
Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
Original Message -----
Wednesday, February 19, 2020
[TechTalk] New Smart Flip
My semi-techno-phobic dad is going
to trade in his old flip phone soon.
He said he saw something on TV
advertising a smart flip phone, he
a phone with the same body style as
a feature flip phone but with the
capability of a modern iPhone or
Android Smart phone. I haven't heard
anything about this. Does anyone
here have any info about this type
phone? Brand, Wireless carrier, etc?
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