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I don't know enough about this to comment much
except that some apps drain the battery quickly. I'm not sure what the
best way is to get information about whether any you are using drain the battery
quickly, but I've read of apps that do.
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Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip Phone?
No, it doesn’t on mine either.
When I listen to my music library or Internet radio stations on my
iPhone, it doesn’t seem to drain the battery too quickly. However, the YouTube
app and FaceTime drain the battery faster. I think that in general, video
drains the battery more quickly than audio.
On Feb 21, 2020, at 4:40 PM, Karim Lakhani
you listen to the radio, on the iphone, does the battery stay at a high
can make it last longer when I
used the data option to low usage.
main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 3:43
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip
those iPhone users who have problems with their batteries draining quickly,
try using low power mode and make sure that you research ways to save your
battery. There are many ways to do so. Your battery should not drain that
quickly if you are taking certain steps to preserve
21, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Gary Greico <pianotuner3@...>
Could we stop
21-Feb-20 4:30 PM, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
No, I'm not
really Christ. I'm Jewish and find your reference to Christ in
this context highly offensive and inappropriate for this list. Don't do
2/21/2020 3:34 PM, Alex Stone wrote:
he isn’t really Christ, is he?
21 Feb 2020, at 15:47, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@...>
Christ Gerald, that’s
true of everything, isn’t it?
do you guys insist on evading my question? Don't sit there and
tell me that nothing can ever go wrong with an IPhone.
Something as simple as a loose battery connection could cause it to
stop working. My understanding is that the battery is sealed
and is not user accessible. A sighted friend of mine had his
IPhone sitting in a phone holder on the dashboard of his car.
He apparently hit a bump, and when he reached his destination, he
discovered that the screen was blank. He wound up taking the
phone to a phone or electronics store(I don't know which), and it
turned out that the battery had been jostled loose. And blind
pedestrians bump into things all the time. It's just one of
the hazards of being blined. So don't tell me that things like
this can never happen.
On 2/21/2020 7:19 AM, Alex Stone
Why do you
insist on deliberately misunderstanding everything that anyone
On 21 Feb
2020, at 12:15, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io <bwaylimited@...>
you are saying that IOS is such a wonderful OS that it is
impossible for anything to go wrong and cause complete loss of
speech that simple fixes like the ones you suggest won't
resolve? And is it not true that the latest IPhone models have
no physical buttons of any kind? If so, how do you locate
the volume and home keys if you have no speech in the first
On 2/21/2020 7:03 AM, chris judge
Yes, but once you
learn the device you will learn that loss of speech is usually
being muted. Solved by a 3 finger double
over being turned off. Solved by either asking siri to turn
it on, or pressing the home key 3 times quickly. In the case
of the iPhone 10 or above, press the power button 3
over volume being turned down. Solved by invoking a gesture,
then pressing up on the volume
It’s like any other
technology, Once you learn it, things are much simpler than
they seem when the device is new to
Okay, let's suppose you turn on your
IPhone, and there is no speech? Then what? How do
you restore Voice Over without sighted help if you have
no idea what's causing the problem in the first place?
No operating system, not even IOS, is immune from problems
that could cause loss of speech.
On 2/21/2020 5:10 AM, chris judge
ridiculous. I’ve been totally blind since birth and have
used an IPhone since 2009. Give it a try.
Gerald, I can assure you that I am
really blind, and I think I take exception to the suggestion
that I’m not!
On 20 Feb 2020, at 15:01, Gerald
Levy via Groups.Io <bwaylimited@...>
I suspect that many "blind"
consumers who use smart phones that are completely devoid
of tactile buttons are not really "blind" at all, but
visually impaired and retain some funtional vision to
navigate around a touchscreen. Those who are totally
blind and purport to use a touchscreen smart phone
probably had a lot of sighted help. Which is why smart
phones with tactile keypads like the BlindShell and Smart
Vision have been introduced. So I'm looking forward to
hearing about the experiences of a totally blind consumer
using the new Samsung smart flip phone.
9:41 AM, Gene wrote:
statement about buttons is inaccurate based on
discussions I've seen on this topic before. Most
smart phones already had very few buttons, and, as for
the elimination of the home button on the I-Phone, while
I can't speak from personal experience, I've seen enough
comments on lists like this that the button's
elimination doesn't mean blind people can't use the
phone. Evidently, the screen simulates the
presence of a button by vibrating. I'm not saying
I definitely understand the situation and I await other
comments but how many people have you seen say they
stopped using an I-Phone because of elimination of the
often state the worst case interpretation of
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Thursday, February 20, 2020 5:22
Re: [TechTalk] New Smart Flip
According to Consumer Reports,
this Samsung smart flip phone employs a new touchscreen
technology that allows it to be thin and flexible enough
to be folded in half like a wallet. But in tests,
it proved to be very fragile, and CR did not recommend
it, especially in view of its very high price tag.
And it would probably not be a good choice for a blind
consumer because even unfolded the touchscreen is
relatively small and has no tactile buttons. This
seems to be a growing trend in smart phones: eliminating
all physical buttons, making it virtually impossible for
a blind consumer to use the phone without some sighted
help or a lot of hands-on
9:20 PM, Mike B
heard about a phone like you're describing just the
other day and I think they said that Samsung was the
company producing it. From the way the guy
was describing the way it works, it sounds like it'll
be a really cool phone, but for $1300 it damn well
otta be! LOL LOL Check out the link
below for a review.
care. Mike. Sent from my
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Wednesday, February 19, 2020 5:02
[TechTalk] New Smart Flip
semi-techno-phobic dad is going to trade in his old
flip phone soon.
He said he saw something on TV
advertising a smart flip phone, he means
with the same body style as a feature flip phone but
capability of a modern iPhone or Android
Smart phone. I haven't heard
anything about this.
Does anyone here have any info about this type of
phone? Brand, Wireless carrier,