locked Re: warning if you doing business


it isn't a question of the Feds pressing the question.  You can send books and equipment.  You can send Braille writers and slates, you can send cassette recorders, I would imagine you can send computers if they are delivered to blind people.  You can even insure free matter for the blind. 
I can't comment on delivery problems or how long it may take to receive packages,  I'm saying that those are the problems that are relevant, such as Laas is discussing.  But a lot of items can be sent free matter.  the government doesn't reimburse the post office for every item.  there is a certain amount of money in the budget to offset the general cost of material sent free matter in a year.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2020 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] warning if you doing business

Oh Laz, you are worth billions last I heard. lol
I have had boxes delivered that were totally destroyed when sent free
matter. it's a minimal cost to send things paid in comparison to what it
could cost in damages and fines if the feds decided to really press the
issue of free matter for the blind.

-----Original Message-----
From: Laz
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 2:57 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] warning if you doing business

I do operate my own business and would not use free matter for the
blind under any circumstances. Instead I use the USPS and pay for the
postage myself, except on international orders but I do subsidize the
international postage as well.

I had too many experiences before I started my business when I did use
free matter for the blind personally, of packages getting lost,
packages coming back postage due, etc, that I decided I would never
use it in my business.

In answer to someone else's comments in this thread about
blindbusinesses not caring about blind people or offering payment
plans, we do offer lay-away plans but only for orders totaling $200 or
more such as for a Victor Reader Stream, Victor Reader Trek, etc.

I am blind, am not rich by any stretch of the imagination, and I do care.


On 3/5/20, Dave Mitchel <dbmitchel@...> wrote:
> the government pays for free matter. that is not or does not include
> things
> you pay for as it is free matter.
> if I am selling you or anyone else I cannot send that free matter as it is
> not free but has been paid for.
> From: brian
> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 1:55 PM
> To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [TechTalk] warning if you doing business
>     We should not do business with any company that will not mail out
> products that do qualafy for free matter.  Tell them that they don't then
> we
> will go else whear.  If companies can't deal with the cost of doing
> business
> then they don't belong in business.  It's bad enough when companies that
> sell products for the blind refuse to provide us with accessable meterials
> such as manuals and catalogs.  They all do this and neither Acb or Nfb are
> doing anything about this.  They just don't care about real world problems
> of the blind they are a very big joke.  They have always been and will
> always will be.  Companies that sell products for the blind are proving
> that
> they really don't care about the needs of the blind they just want our
> money.  They are taking advantage of and they should all be very ashamed
> of
> themselves.  What a big scam?  They just can't comprehend that the
> majority
> of theblind are either unimployed living on ssi or ssdi income that barly
> pays for your monthly living expensive.  There is very little room for
> expensive products in their budgets.  Thats just reality but they will
> never
> comprehend that.  How many companies that sell products for the blind
> offer
> any monthly payment plans?  They want full payment and thats just not
> possible.  When I first applied to my local lions club for a reading
> machine
> they told me that it would take their whole anual budget just to pay for
> it.
>  This prevents the blind from achieving the independence that the blind
> truly want and they could care less.  I am not saying that we should get
> somthing for nothing but just work with us and charge a more reasonable
> price for their products.  Offer monthly payment plans and they will sell
> more products.  They have no business sinse.  There is a double standard
> here.  If we request braille we are told that the cost is to high and only
> 10 percent of blind people read braille anyway.  On the other hand they
> ignore the 70-80 unimployment rate of the blind and expect us to pay money
> that we don't have.   They are very selish and very inconciterate of our
> needs the very people they claim to be in business for.  I know that
> nothing
> will probably ever change unless the blind community as a whole demand
> change.  I doubt that will ever happen you just can't getthe blind to
> unite
> on any issue.  Just some food for thought for what's werth.
> Brian Sackrider
> On 3/5/2020 4:04 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
>   If I operated a business, I probably would not send stuff out free
> matter.
> Did you have an agreement that they would send it out free matter? Did you
> get anything in writing saying this?
>   On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 1:01 PM heather albright <kd5cbl@...>
> wrote:
>     No it was not a restocking fee. They charged me for something that
> could
> have been sent free matter. So if one orders something from them, be
> prepared! That is all I am going to say on the subject! Heather
>     From: Gene
>     Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 2:58 PM
>     To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
>     Subject: Re: [TechTalk] warning if you doing business
>     I don't know if your message is a valid warning.  Are users told in
> some
> sort of straightforward way that returning something will involve a
> restocking fee?  I purchase very little and I have returned nothing.  What
> is customary for those companies that specialize in dealing with blind
> purchasers?  Do they generally charge a restocking fee for returns?  How
> much?  Is this company within what is customary now?
>     Aside from that, since all sorts of merchants charge restocking fees
> now, is the charge within what is reasonable for merchants in general?
> Shipping isn't the question.  Restocking fees aren't based on shipping
> costs.  they are a cost imposed for restocking a returned item.
>     Gene
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: heather albright
>     Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2020 2:50 PM
>     To: TechTalk@groups.io
>     Subject: [TechTalk] warning if you doing business
>     Hello, I just want to worn anyone who does business that, this company
> does not return all your money even with items that could be shipped free
> matter for the blind. So LoganTech.
>     Proxtalker, be warned and go else where! Heather
>   --
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