locked Re: warning if you doing business


Hi Ron,

I have heard it said that free matter can be insured although I don't
have any personal experience with this.

I know what I know and I know what I don't know. (smiles)


On 3/6/20, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hi Laz,

I was wondering when someone running a business would reply to this
thread. I agree with your assessment of Free Matter For The Blind.
While it is a handy tool for written and recorded materials of low or
moderate price, I wouldn't want someone to send A Victor Reader Trek by
that method. Remember people, Free Matter for the blind is low priority
mail and is therefore subject to long delays and less care than even
standard mail. I am not sure, but I don't believe that free matter
deliveries are insurable; I could be wrong. If not, then any company
who sent a Trek via free matter would have its heart in its mouth hoping
that 2 or 3 weeks after the product was sent--that it got to its
destination in one piece.

On 3/5/2020 5:57 PM, Laz wrote:
I do operate my own business and would not use free matter for the
blind under any circumstances. Instead I use the USPS and pay for the
postage myself, except on international orders but I do subsidize the
international postage as well.

I had too many experiences before I started my business when I did use
free matter for the blind personally, of packages getting lost,
packages coming back postage due, etc, that I decided I would never
use it in my business.

In answer to someone else's comments in this thread about
blindbusinesses not caring about blind people or offering payment
plans, we do offer lay-away plans but only for orders totaling $200 or
more such as for a Victor Reader Stream, Victor Reader Trek, etc.

I am blind, am not rich by any stretch of the imagination, and I do care.


On 3/5/20, Dave Mitchel <dbmitchel@centurylink.net> wrote:
the government pays for free matter. that is not or does not include
you pay for as it is free matter.
if I am selling you or anyone else I cannot send that free matter as it
not free but has been paid for.

From: brian
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 1:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] warning if you doing business

We should not do business with any company that will not mail out
products that do qualafy for free matter. Tell them that they don't then
will go else whear. If companies can't deal with the cost of doing
then they don't belong in business. It's bad enough when companies that
sell products for the blind refuse to provide us with accessable
such as manuals and catalogs. They all do this and neither Acb or Nfb
doing anything about this. They just don't care about real world
of the blind they are a very big joke. They have always been and will
always will be. Companies that sell products for the blind are proving
they really don't care about the needs of the blind they just want our
money. They are taking advantage of and they should all be very ashamed
themselves. What a big scam? They just can't comprehend that the
of theblind are either unimployed living on ssi or ssdi income that
pays for your monthly living expensive. There is very little room for
expensive products in their budgets. Thats just reality but they will
comprehend that. How many companies that sell products for the blind
any monthly payment plans? They want full payment and thats just not
possible. When I first applied to my local lions club for a reading
they told me that it would take their whole anual budget just to pay for
This prevents the blind from achieving the independence that the blind
truly want and they could care less. I am not saying that we should get
somthing for nothing but just work with us and charge a more reasonable
price for their products. Offer monthly payment plans and they will
more products. They have no business sinse. There is a double standard
here. If we request braille we are told that the cost is to high and
10 percent of blind people read braille anyway. On the other hand they
ignore the 70-80 unimployment rate of the blind and expect us to pay
that we don't have. They are very selish and very inconciterate of our
needs the very people they claim to be in business for. I know that
will probably ever change unless the blind community as a whole demand
change. I doubt that will ever happen you just can't getthe blind to
on any issue. Just some food for thought for what's werth.

Brian Sackrider

On 3/5/2020 4:04 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:

If I operated a business, I probably would not send stuff out free
Did you have an agreement that they would send it out free matter? Did
get anything in writing saying this?

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 1:01 PM heather albright <kd5cbl@gmail.com>

No it was not a restocking fee. They charged me for something that
have been sent free matter. So if one orders something from them, be
prepared! That is all I am going to say on the subject! Heather

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 2:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] warning if you doing business

I don't know if your message is a valid warning. Are users told in
sort of straightforward way that returning something will involve a
restocking fee? I purchase very little and I have returned nothing.
is customary for those companies that specialize in dealing with blind
purchasers? Do they generally charge a restocking fee for returns? How
much? Is this company within what is customary now?

Aside from that, since all sorts of merchants charge restocking
now, is the charge within what is reasonable for merchants in general?
Shipping isn't the question. Restocking fees aren't based on shipping
costs. they are a cost imposed for restocking a returned item.


----- Original Message -----

From: heather albright

Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2020 2:50 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] warning if you doing business

Hello, I just want to worn anyone who does business that, this
does not return all your money even with items that could be shipped
matter for the blind. So LoganTech.

Proxtalker, be warned and go else where! Heather



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