Re: suggested amount of RAM for jaws and windos 10


The media Microsoft tool (below) will allow the user to create a bootable disc.




How much RAM does your Windows 10 PC need? (and this is from 2019, I just figured that it'd give any of you who do not have all that much of an understanding, at least a better idea):



1GB of RAM is the minimum system requirement for the 32-bit version of Windows 10, and while I've gotten Windows 10 to run on this much RAM, I don't recommend it.

1GB of RAM is just enough for basic operations like web browsing (although don't expect to run a browser with dozens of tabs open), email, word processing, and light image editing. And even these basic tasks are going to be painful. Do yourself a favor and avoid 1GB of RAM if you can.



2GB of RAM is the minimum system requirement for the 64-bit version of Windows 10. You might get away with less, but the chances are that it's going to make you yell a lot of bad words at your system! With 2GB you should be able to do pretty much everything with your computer that a computer is capable of doing, such as gaming, image, and video editing, running suites like Microsoft Office, and having a dozen or so browser tabs open all become possible. Sure, the shortage of RAM is going to be a bottleneck on your system, but 2GB is enough to get some real work done.

2GB is also enough to run a hardcore suite of apps like the Adobe Photoshop (or so says Adobe, I wouldn't want to try it), but to be honest, if you're paying that sort of money for software, you should be able to afford more RAM! The bottom line is that if you've got a system with 2GB of RAM and it feels slow, add more RAM. If you can't add more RAM, then nothing else you do will speed it up.


4GB RAM If you're running a 32-bit operating system then with 4GB of RAM installed you'll only be able to access around 3.2GB (this is because of memory addressing limitations). However, with a 64-bit operating system, you'll have full access to the whole 4GB. The difference in performance between a system with 2GB of RAM and one with 4GB is like night and day. Even on a 32-bit system that limits the RAM to a little over 3GB, the performance boost is well worth the cost. Not only do applications run faster, but you can also run more applications simultaneously, which comes in handy if you run suites like Microsoft Office or Adobe Creative Cloud (say you want to run Microsoft Word and Excel, or Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom). If you have a 64-bit operating system, then bumping the RAM up to 4GB is a no-brainer. All but the cheapest and most basic of Windows 10 systems will come with 4GB of RAM.


8GB RAM Now we're into performance territory. If you're serious about your PC, then I consider this to be the new default. If you're buying or building a machine dedicated to photo or HD video editing and rendering, or just want a fast system, then 8GB of RAM is the minimum you should consider to avoid frustration. This is the amount of RAM recommended by Adobe for users running Creative Cloud applications.

8GB of RAM is not expensive. Sure, get the OEM to fit it into a new system and you're likely paying a premium (especially if that OEM is Apple), but from an aftermarket supplier, this can be had for under $40.

8GB is the minimum amount of RAM new Macs ship with. Note: You will need a 64-bit operating system to make use of this amount of RAM.


16GB RAM Is there a case for more than 8GB of RAM? Sure there is, but the bang for the buck trails off. The time when more than 8GB of RAM becomes useful and starts paying for itself is when you're running several resource- heavy applications simultaneously especially image or video processing (even 4K video), CAD, or 3D modeling. Try running Premiere Pro, Photoshop, and After Effects side-by-side on a system with 8GB of RAM, then bump that up and feel the difference. Having more than 8GB also comes in handy if you make extensive use of virtualization tools such as Microsoft Hyper-V or VMware Workstation, especially if you run multiple virtual machines simultaneously. Note: You will need a 64-bit operating system to make use of this amount of RAM.


16GB+ You're now deep in the realm of heavy lifting. A workstation with more than 16GB of RAM will be a do-anything system. This is the sort of system that will be able to run multiple resource-heavy applications or virtual machines simultaneously. Remember that 64-bit Windows 10 Pro, Enterprise, and Education will support up to 2TB of RAM, while the 64-bit version of Windows 10 Home is limited to only 128GB. Note: You will need a 64-bit operating system to make use of this amount of RAM. Bear in mind that how much RAM your system supports, along with the type and speed, will depend on your motherboard. Consult your PC/motherboard manual, or, if your PC was manufactured by an OEM, use a system checker such as the one found on  Crucial. com to find out what RAM is compatible with your system.


From: <> On Behalf Of Keith S
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:29
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] suggested amount of RAM for jaws and windos 10


it slowed down right after the upgrade.


How much does a windows 10 upgrade disc cost in case I need to restore to windows 7 and then reupdate to windows 10 using the disc?


----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 6:12 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] suggested amount of RAM for jaws and windos 10


I agree with Gene. In fact, if a computer is performing poorly or slower
than it ought to be performing it is very likely not the fault of the
screen reader. It could be due to any number of factors but I can almost
assure you that JAWS is probably not going to be one of them. Did the
slow performance begin right after Windows was upgraded to Windows 10 or
was it noticed a while afterward? It's impossible for us to say exactly
what would cause this. Possibilities include items loading during system
start which might not need to be loaded and which could be consuming
system resources, Windows 10 engaging in file indexing, Windows 10 or
some other programs updating in the background, scanning from a
legitimate antivirus program, some unknown and unwanted third party
application which got installed while installing something else, a virus
or some other form of malware, a problematic hard drive ... you get the
idea. If someone thinks it's JAWS ask them why they believe that this is
the case. I don't know the extent of your computer skills and how
comfortable you are in checking for some of the things I've outlined
above. If you are not I would ask someone with good computer skills who
you trust to check for these things.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

On 6/11/2020 6:31 PM, Gene wrote:
> You almost certainly don't need more than 8GB of RAM unless you use
> memory intensive programs which the majority of users don't. Did the
> person test your computer with and without JAWS running? Did the tech
> check your memory usage during slow performance? Did you test it
> running Narrator?
> Be suspicious any time a tech blames a screen-reader for a problem.
> Of course, a screen-reader may cause a problem, but techs love to
> blame screen-readers for problems just because they are unfamiliar
> with the programs and they aren't typical kinds of programs, they are
> made for blind people, not a typical program, and of course they are
> therefore suspect and second rate programs.
> Also, what synthesizer are you using? The newer symthesizers use more
> memory but Eloquence doesn't use much and I've used it without the
> screen-reader causing any problems on machines that had enough memory,
> but barely.
> Gene
> -----Original Message----- From: Keith S
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 5:15 PM
> To: tech talk for the blind
> Subject: [TechTalk] suggested amount of RAM for jaws and windos 10
> What is the suggested amount of ram for windows 10 and jaws?
> My system is very slow and I've had a guy who is an active computer
> updater look at it and he says it's probably jaws that is slowing down
> the system.
> He's the same guy who updated my system from the factory default
> windows 7 to windows 10 when microsoft offered the free update.

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