locked Re: Talking about quoting threads in the blindness community
I also disagree that you have to be blind to know what it is like to be blind. But what is causing discord on the list, I think, is the lecturing I know best and that's the last word, attitude of many of your messages Brian when it comes to what blind people should do and be. These things can be discussed and the same points can be made in ways that don't stir up this kind of dissention.toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
As I've ;pointed out, context is important, where is the blind person functioning? As I've pointed out, training is one reason such problems exist. On a list like this, in discussing questions, the point is not to change the world and rehabilitate and revolutionize how blind people who don't meet your standards and philosophy think about blindness or how they should do things. Encouraging people to do more is fine. Lecturing about what you won't tolerate and how people function as blind people accomplishes nothing and is divisive. Such points can be made with a far different tone.
I'm not questioning your motivation to be helpful and your commitment to equality for blind people. That doesn't mean you are implementing your commitment constructively.
It is my job to keep the list a friendly place and not to allow division and acrimony to occur on the list. of course, there will be some from time to time, but this thread has gotten out of hand. While I don't like to stop discussion, this thread has taken over the list. I am going to close it. If you want to reply, fine but within the next fifteen minutes, I will close it.
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Talking about quoting threads in the blindness community
So I need to be Blind before I could ever understand what it is like to
This is just not true. I hear black people say this same sort of thing
when they are talking with someone they disagree with.
You could never understand what it's like to be Black, a woman, an
Indian, a Short person, an extremely tall person, a Bald person what
ever unless you are one of those people. Silly thinking in my opinion.
I am not a Great Cook. but, I can tell when a Cooked Meal is a Bad Meal.
Someone who has been around others, who happen to be blind ought to have
learned a few things about what someone blind has to do differently to
accomplish the same tasks as a sighted person.
I for one, find the statement that a person doesn't understand another
because they themselves are not like that other person, to be very wrong.
Some are better than others at putting themselves into the Shoes of
another person, so not all people may be able to understand the life of
someone blind, but there are those who can, and do all the time.
On 8/27/2020 8:04 AM, Laz wrote:
Hmm. I post a message so that people have a fuller understanding of