Re: Giving Up on Thunderbird!


In my last message, quoted below, I should have said for screen-reader users who only use Windows, I shouldn't have specified NVDA.


-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Giving Up on Thunderbird!

It is really unreasonable to lecture me about doing my homework when I spent
over half an hour looking for information before you gave a suggestion of
what to search for hours after the thread started. Now that you did, I have
done a search and I conclude that for NVDA users who only use Windows, the
threat you are alluding to is minimal. Here is a quote from one of the
articles I found:
The research team said it tested 20 email clients for their attack scenario
and found that four clients were vulnerable. This list included:
• Evolution, the default email client for the GNOME desktop environment on
Linux (see CVE-2020-11879)
• KMail, the default email client for KDE desktop environments on Linux (see
• IBM/HCL Notes on Windows (see CVE-2020-4089)
• Older versions of Thunderbird on Linux (now patched)

At times, when there is little danger, I believe it is justiffiable for
blind people to prefer reliability over having the latest program. Such a
decision should be made carefully, but there are times when it is

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Giving Up on Thunderbird!

Gene, you said, and I quote: "I've seen nothing that caused me to
reconsider my opinion."

Well, then, that's on you, because the search criteria I gave you was used,
by me, to locate the very references I made reference to. It is incumbent
on those offered the way to find something to do additional digging.

I say again, it is a fool, unless for very good reason (which you
conveniently ignored), who uses an old email client or browser when updated
versions are available.

You are always going to encounter accessibility issues over time, it goes
with the territory. That's never a good reason to avoid updates for any
software that has intimate contact with cyberspace on a continuous basis.
Period, end of sentence, never needs to be repeated again. Do your darned

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

Always remember that computers are just glorified light bulbs - they rarely
fail in continuous use and usually go pop when turned off and on.

~ Technician with the username Computer Bloke, on

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