Re: Apple vs Windows?

Gerald Levy

I agree.  He has been a troublemaker on every list he has infiltrated.  Once again, it should be pointed out that much of his arrogance and disrespect stems from the fact that he is totally sighted and has little patience for dealing with fellow blind list members who lack his advanced level of expertise.


On 11/20/2020 12:14 PM, chris judge wrote:
Good riddence.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: November 20, 2020 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Apple vs Windows?

Brian has left the list.  He can dish it out, but what happens when he is

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Apple vs Windows?

You can give "wake up calls" without insults and snarkiness. As has been
demonstrated by your posts here and elsewhere, you have a distinct lack of
patience and very little tolerance. I understand that you are frustrated
that people don't know what you know, or wish to adapt. But the tone of your
posts is such that it sounds like: you are a stupid idiot refusing to see
that things change.
It's a free country (well, mostly) and you can express yourself however you
wish. But, I think Gene--and others as well--would prefer that you leave off
the personal insults.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 08:20:17 -0800
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Apple vs Windows?

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 11:10 AM, Gene wrote:

Your post is verging on personally abusive and such posts will not 
be allowed if continued in any regular or recurring pattern.
Gene, then I'll be happy to leave.  There seems to be this notion that 
all assistance has to "be nice."  Well, it doesn't, and very often, it 
shouldn't be.  We're dealing with adults here, and elsewhere, and I 
expect that adults know that effort will be necessary to learn any 
thing, and also know and accept the following:

It is impossible to help individuals who will not listen to advice 
unless they like that advice. Being a good assistant is not about 
making the person assisted "feel good," but about both asking the 
right (and sometimes hard) questions as well as giving the information 
necessary to achieve the desired result. Getting help is a two-way 
street, and those asking for help have work they must do, too, when 
asked. They also need to be ready to let go of what they'd like to do, 
and instead do what's called for.

It is not possible to help those who don't want to "do what's called for."

And, for the record, I'm not trying to "encourage people" in every 
instance, or even many instances.  I'm trying to get them to actually 
do something they should have already been doing, and supplying the 
exact information they need to do it, which I did here.

Giving a well deserved wake-up call is not abusive, it's necessary in 
many cases.  This is one of them.


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

If your joy is derived from what society thinks of you, you're always 
going to be disappointed.

~ Madonna

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