Re: Apple vs Windows?
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For the record, the first message I read about how to use ribbons was written and posted by Gene Asner.
I’m thinking that was about 10 years ago.
Gene has consistently encouraged list members to move to the ribbons method of working with m s products and leaving the old menus approach behind.
If I have misunderstood your posting, my apologies.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norman
Sent: November 20, 2020 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Apple vs Windows?
I just came across this thread today, started a reply, discarded it, but now can't resist. While Brian's messages were maybe a bit out of line, i can't help but agree with the sentiment he expressed. Sadly though, It could have been worded a bit more diplomatically. My first reaction when i saw the thread had gotten combative was why do we have to go down this road again? It happens every month or so. The reaction now that he has left by a few list members though has been the most disturbing to me.
And with that having been said, i'm going to go on a bit of a rant about some people's ungratefulness, Sorry Jean.
Further back on this email thread ribbons were being discussed, some people like them and some do not. Brian in the spirit of helpfulness posted 3 different links to guides on how to navigate them from a blind perspective, I ask you, is that not considered helpful? What more can one do? We can say anything to try and help people but if said people refuse to read said material, there is nothing more we can do. Just because the thread degenerated into a bashfest because of undiplomatic statements from one side, and oversensitive reactions from the other shouldn't detract from the help that was already given.
And now that brian has left we get sulky comments like this.
I agree. I’m not even sure why he’s here.
I agree. He has been a troublemaker on every list he has infiltrated. Once again, it should be pointed out that much of his arrogance and disrespect stems from the fact that he is totally sighted and has little patience for dealing with fellow blind list members who lack his advanced level of expertise.
Ungrateful, idiotic and untruthful statements like the ones above make me ashamed i have to be part of the blindness community. Yes i'm blind, and if i had a choice i would be sighted. And if i was i'd leave people like the ones who made those statements alone to figure out there own issues. Brian has been a long standing and helpful member of this comunity and i'm grateful that there are still sighted people willing to help us blind people develop our knowledge and indipendence. So since i'm blind, and don't have a choice in the matter i will accept that, try and gracefully accept help where needed and in turn help others where i can irrespective of if they're sighted or not.
In closing, i'll just make this statement . We all have equal oppurtunity on this earth, regardless of if we're sighted or not. Just keep this in mind, equal oppurtunity doesn't necessarily mean equal outcome.
On 11/20/2020 6:19 PM, chris judge wrote: