Re: nvda with eloquence


I see this as being one of those things to protect the list. No one
will probably care though. I wouldn't pay for eloquence though. It's
great it's what I use with jaws and I thought about getting the sapi
version for about 5 seconds, but it wasn't worth me paying more than
50 bucks for it.

On 12/22/20, Gene <> wrote:
As a practicalmatter, I don't think IBM would care or take action. But to
protect the list, it’s a good idea not to allow such sharing where sharing
it for free is questionable.

When I see this done on the lists I follow, and its very rare, it appears to

usually result from ignorance of the prohibition or the belief of the member

that the software is legal to share for free.

So, on this list, my policy as owner is to remove such messages from the
archives and send a message to the list when this occurs but I see no reason

to take further actions as long as such occurrences are very infrequent and

I have no reason to believe the person sending the message acted
intentionally incorrectly.

-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] nvda with eloquence

even if the 20 or so year old IBM software were modified, I don't think that

a quart is really going to care if a handful of blind people are using some

20-year-old software which has been slightly modified to work with modern
computer systems. they would probably just laugh at you, throw the case out,

and not care. if I were a judge on a court, that's what I would do. Now if
this were sighted people pirating some kind of major piece of software then

it would be a different story. for example if if vocalizer were pirated by a

bunch of people who could see or some other modern currently sold speech
software then yes that would be a big deal. A handful of blind people
modifying and using some 20-year-old or 23 or 24-year-old piece of speech
software I really don't think a quart is going to care. yes using eloquence

illegally is illegal because code factory currently sells it. But IBM via
voice, I think that may be a different matter because it is considered a
separate product. For example, you can easily get a hold of homepage reader

from the Internet archive and get a hold of IBM via voice. Even though
homepage reader would be a demo, via voice is not a demo. There are also
other places where you can get IBM via voice speech software from 1998 or
1999 or so. I am pretty sure that IBM via voice is considered or was
considered a separate product from eloquence. JAWS uses eloquence, it does

not use via voice.

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