-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 9:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

You may need sighted assistance to set up the computer. I would think you
could try with an external keyboard, but I don't know why you had the
problems you did and if that would resolve them or some of them.

I've never set up a computer as a new machine for various reasons. Either I
got machines from rehabilitation agencies where they were already set up,
refurbished machines that were already set up, and I got one demonstration
machine which, as a demo, was already set up. The demo was the last of the
brand and model in the store and they sold it to me. I can't advise you on
the probems you had.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 7:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Gene,
Wow, what a day I had trying to set up the Lenovo. I worked on that Laptop
for at least 6 hours, and still no go! LOL! Narrator was not any help at
all! When I first turned on the Laptop, a woman's voice came on, and said
she can walk me through the steps if I was ready by voice, and I answered
yes to her, and I searched on line for the keys to turn on the speaker,
volume, mic. Well then, I heard no more from her. I wasn't for sure if she
heard me or not though. I turned on Narrator, and it just kept turning off
for some unknown reason. Then the Laptop would just shut down. I would
then have to unplug the Laptop, and wait for a few minutes, and plug it back
in in order to see if I could hear the woman's voice, so she could walk me
through it, but I didn't hear her voice, so I turned on Narrator again, and
again, Narrator just stopped talking once again. So I once again turned
Narrator on again, and pressed a few keys quickly, so I found that if I kept
pressing keys, Narrator would stay on, and I also heard Narrator saying if I
want Narrator to read the keys to me I can press caps lock, plus the number
1, so I did press the cap key and the number one, and quickly started to
press a few keys mainly on the numpad. So I finally found the enter key on
that keyboard, and pressed enter. I then got a message from Narrator saying
Microsoft set up 2 of 5 steps, but that message continued for an hour in a
half. I began to press the space bar to hear something, but I just kept
getting the same message, so I just waited a little longer to see if I could
hear something, but I still got the exact same message. So, I was getting
ready to turn the Laptop off again because I couldn't do anything with it,
and I didn't know what it was doing, as Narrator didn't say anything. Well,
finally the woman's voice came on asking me if I'm sure I want to quit, and
I told her no. She then told me enter my first and last name in the field,
and I did, but I did spell my name wrong because the e key was so far away,
I couldn't find the back space at all, I couldn't find the delete key, as I
looked and looked for those keys. I then pressed shift plus tab, and got
back in to the edit field to enter my name again. I then had to enter my
email address in the field as well, and made a mistake because of those
crazy keys, but anyway it went through. I thought to myself, ok, maybe I'm
getting somewhere, I selected my network. Now it was time for me to enter
my WI-Fi password, but low in behold, I couldn't turn on the numpad key to
use the numbers, I couldn't even use the numbers on the number roll either,
so I couldn't finish the install or set up, so I couldn't have any internet.
I think in the beginning why it was taking so long was it was asking me to
except something, but Narrator was not reading it to me, and I don't know
what happened to the woman who first came on talking. I would not even want
this keyboard even if someone was to give it to me. I can not work with the
keyboard! LOL! It is just too difficult to try and type with two fingers
on one key, but I just thought I would give it another chance, but that is
the very last chance I will even try to work with that keyboard. LOL!
Smile!


Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 4:07 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

You don't have to give it up. there are external numpads you can attach.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 2:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Wow, how terrible to have to give up the num pad. My Lenovo desktop has
laster for over five years. I got almost ten years out of my last Dell.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 9:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

Hi Gene and All,
I've been doing quite a bit of research on the Lenovo IdeaPad in which I
recently bought. I don't particularly like the keyboard, as the keys are to
flat and to large, and different shapes, and when I press a key, the key
goes down into the keyboard. I also read quite a bit about how long the
Lenovo Laptops last, and according to what I have been reading, they only
will last two years. LOL! I paid $499, so I would like it to last a little
longer, but with this particular Laptop, according to the reviews I've
read, this isn't going to last long. I also read this Lenovo does overheat
quite often, not sure if it is because of the Intel Processor or what. I am
going to take it back to Best Buy Monday, and try to get one without the num
pad, as I know Best Buy don't have Laptops with the Num Pad in their stores.
Thank you all so much for all your help, as it is greatly appreciated.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:41 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

To clarify, I'm saying that I don't have the technical knowledge to discuss
the chip speed and cache that would be the best buy for the money for a
typical user. If you get too underpowered or undercached a chip, you likely
won't be satisfied. I'm also saying that differences in brands, which chips
offer faster performance and more cache, for example for the price, and
which operate more cooly, if that matters, are things I don't have the
knowledge to discuss along with the best specifications per brand.

It is my impression that this or that brand may have a slower chip speed,
but that other technical differences may provide faster performance than a
different brand with the same chip speed.. And how much such differences
matter for the typical user in terms of performance per price is something I
don't know.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.

There are objective differences in brands and models of chips. Whether and
to what extent they matter to the typical user, I don't know and I don't
have the technical knowledge to discuss but there are objective differences.
it isn't just a matter of taste.


Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 10:24 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.



Hi Pam,



Computer brands, models, processors, speakers, it is mostly a matter of what
we are used to and what we can afford.

You know, I’m a chev guy,

I’m a Wrangler Woman,

I choose pepsi,

Coke rocks

And we won’t bother with the pizza or burgers.



Cheers,



Monte





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pamela
Dominguez
Sent: December 26, 2020 9:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







My first windows computer was a Gateway 2000 tower with an AMD processor
that I got back in 2000. I was told, even back then, that AMD processors
were better. Pam.







From: Monte Single



Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 8:16 AM



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.







Hi Josh,

I am not familiar with the current line of a m d processors, but they were
all I used till a few years ago.My impression is that a m d processors are
now a better choice, dollar for dollar, than an intel.



Of course some will disagree.



It sounds like a great machine unless you intend to do serious gaming and
video editing.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh
Kennedy
Sent: December 25, 2020 6:39 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Lenovo Laptops.





speaking of LENOVO laptops, I am thinking of getting the following laptop. A
LENOVO, with 256 GB solid-state NVME Drive., and I'm sorry if I posted this
before I don't remember if I did, I amD RYZEN5 processor, eight gigs of RAM,
with this configuration of computer work good with JAWS?












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