Re: the reason I decided to leave things alone instead of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.


Janet
 

Jim,
Ok, it looks like I can now send as well as reply to the list.

Jim I'm going to share a story with you about what happened to me with my Windows 10 Laptop. Just last Friday I turned on my Win 10 after not having it turned on well over a week, the first thing I did after turning it on, was to check for updates. Well, I did have some updates, and yes I did update, and it took at least 2 hours to complete the update, so I restarted the PC, and it came back up with a message saying I had an update for JAWS. Ok, now I updated JAWS, and once again restarted the PC. Needless to say my nightmare was about to begin. My PC was a total mess, meaning I couldn't do anything with it even though, I tried working on it all day Friday and half the day Saturday, as well as working to get JAWS to speak so I could understand what he was saying. I finally lost my patience, and turned that .... thing off. I couldn't understand JAWS at all, and the PC was so slow I couldn't do anything with it. I felt like just throwing the PC out the window, and believe me I came very close to doing that, but instead, I just turned it off, and I didn't bother with it until this last Tuesday. Ok now, Tuesday I turned it on to see if I could do anything with it, but again, I couldn't, so I checked for updates, and once again, here comes more updates, and yes I updated it, and I couldn't believe that update took exactly 4 hours to update, and sometimes JAWS would speak the percentage of the update, and then JAWS would just get tired, and he would stop speaking, so I didn't know what was going on, and being as curious as I am, I would press the insert key plus the letter t for the title bar just so I would hear what JAWS has to say, and then he would speak the percentage for awhile, and he would once again stop, but my point is the update kept updating, in which was fine for me, but I was ready to plug in my Laptop charger as I was concerned the Laptop batteries would just die, but finally the .... finished updating, and I had to restart so the PC could finish the complete update. Well, needless to say, that really blew me away, as I never seen an update take a total of 4 hours, in which that tells me something was most definitely wrong with the previous update, and the PC was repairing the corrupted update, and then downloaded the clean update. I've been working with desktop computers as well as with JAWS for 30 years, and I've never came across this. This was a first one for me. Ok now, today I turned on my Win 10 again, and once again I checked for updates. Well now, more updates to download, as I attempted to download the update, I got a message saying there is an error and I'm missing some files, and I can't update, I had no idea what was going on now, so I press the ok button to accept the error message, and I waited for a few minutes, and I attempted the updates again, and this time for what ever reason the damn thing finally downloaded the update, and once again restarted the Laptop, and I waited for close to an hour, and I just shut it off, and so far, it is working fine! So as you can see Jim there are several different reasons things like this happen, but I have no idea why. The reasons why I asked you the questions I asked you earlier was to be for sure when you attempted to download an update your updates could have easily gotten corrupted, and if you weren't paying close attention, you might have not noticed that. It's really strainge because earlier I was thinking that is what happened to your PC, and believe it or not, that samething is what happened to me just today. Smile! These things can and do often happen with Win updates. -----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 4:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Well, I wait for 20 minutes or so, and I figure it's stuck.

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 12:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Jim,
Ok this is also good to know, as it seems like you are a couple versions
behind though. Now, this might sound like a stupid question, how do you
know the download is stuck?

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 2:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

I received it in 2017.

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 12:11 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Jim,
Ok, this is good to know. Now, when did you get this PC?

Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 2:09 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Yes.

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 12:05 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Jim,
Wow, did you say your version of Windows is 1909?
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jim Rawls
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 2:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Janet, Microsoft tried to put on the latest version of windows, which is
2032 I think. Anyway, the installation failed, so I still have windows 1909
on this computer. So I wonder if I tried to install a clean install of
windows, if the same thing would happen, and the installation would fail.
What do you think? How would you go about installing a clean version of
windows? The other day when I talked to the lady from Hellen Keller
foundation, she was reluctant to let me have a copy of my office program,
so I would have to find it somewhere, unless there is a way to back up the
one I have. Any comments here are appreciated. Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Janet
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 11:30 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Hi Gene,
I can't understand why MS Disability didn't perform a reset themselves, or
did they. I haven't heard anything about what MS said as to why they can't
do anything, or what did they check, what did they find. The only times
I've had any problems downloading something, is because of my virus
protection, or even just because of my firewall settings, in which I just
turned them off, and tried the download again, and sure enough the download
went through, and I quickly turned on my firewall as well as my virus
protection. Although, I would think MS looked at all that.
Janet .

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 8:37 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.

Why not use reset? it saves work and if it doesn't work you can always
reinstall from scratch. But why not try this method of having a completely
clean copy of Windows first?

Then again is it worth doing any of this if you are going to get a new
computer in three months? Use other programs for the ones you can't use now

and we still ddon't know if you can get security updates for the version of
Windows you are running.

When you get the new computer, you may want to experiment with the old one
but is it worth the inconvenience now?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 5:16 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.



I still sayl, as I have from the outset, install Windows 10 from scratch.
That means initializing the disk. Of course you'll want to back everything
up frirst, which maybe by now is no longer possible, only you would know
this.




On 3/31/2021 3:31 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:


Absolutely, but lately, not.





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Loy
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 7:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead
of installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.







Hi Jim,



Have you ever been able to install a program on your computer? If not, it
could be the organization you got the computer from did not set it up where
you would have administrative rights. Just a thought.











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From: Jim Rawls



To: main@TechTalk.groups.io



Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 7:22 PM



Subject: [TechTalk] the reason I decided to leave things alone instead of
installing a clean install of windows. on my computer.







Hi all,

When Microsoft tried to install windows 2032 or whatever the latest version
of windows ten is, the installation failed. So I think Bill white is right.
I have a hardware issue on my computer. Jim

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