Re: Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.


Howard Traxler
 

How does one reset; what is it; what does it do; and when should one do it?

On 4/3/2021 7:06 PM, Gene wrote:
That is what you would generally expect, but I don't have the technical knowledge to know if a hard drive problem might corrupt the source files used for the reset.  We don't even know if there is a hard drive problem or if a hardware problem is causing corruption.  I think that a reset should be attempted before a clean installation of Windows.  If it works, that's fine. If it doesn't and if Jim is determined not to continue to use the computer as it is and has decided to do a clean reinstallation if necessary, there is no reason not to try a reset first.

I don't know if Jim has decided to keep using the computer as it is or what he is willing to do to ttry to solve problems between now and when he gets his new computer.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Janet
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Gene,
That is the key word here corruption, but a reset should fix that as well.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 6:45 PM
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You can always place a clean version of Windows on a machine.  But there may
be corruption problems in Windows so that the updater can't install the
updates.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 5:40 PM
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That is incorrect. The way in windows update as well as  the upgrade
assistant always work and are nondistructive.

On 4/3/2021 5:10 PM, Janet wrote:
Hi Enes,
   Jim is still on version 1909, and he hasn't been able to update the
updates on his PC, for some strange reason.  If he was to update to 20h2,
he would definitely need to do a complete install.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of enes saribas
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 4:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Not really, windows 2009 is a free upgrade from 1909.

On 4/3/2021 4:42 PM, Byron Stephens wrote:
Ok I didn't know this until now. So this is something I have to go to
the store and buy to get the continued support I guess.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.


That's right.  I wasn't thinking about the time properly.  Having
said that, two months without updates isn't any sort of catastrophe.
Have your data files, music, books, whatever else backed up, as they
should be anyway, browse sites that are considered safe, keep your
browsers updated, have your antimalware definitions current, follow
safety rules, and the gap in protection is unlikely to cause problems
and if it does, you will have all your data files backed up to be
placed on the next machine.  Keep the drive you are backing them up
on disconnected from the machine when you aren't using it. You
should do that anyway.  That way, if the machine should become
infected, your data is much less likely to be affected.

I don't think there is any good way to proceed except these choices::
Continue to use the machine as it is, perform a reset and see what
happens, reinstall Windows from scratch, which I don't think should
be done until after a reset is attempted, or take the machine to a
reputable repair place and see what they find and recommend.

I'm not trying to be dictatorial.  I'm telling you what I think the
choices are that make sense.  There is a chance, it may be a small or
quite a small one, that the machine won't work or won't work as well
after you try a reset.  It may solve your problems, at least
temporarily, however.  And if necessary, whatever happens with the
reset, you can reinstall Windows from scratch if you wish or take it
to a shop and have it done.  If you can't do things that are
important, you may want to try a reset and reinstall Windows if a
reset doesn't work.  Either way, there will be considerable work
involved because you will have to reinstall all programs.

I should also say that if you take the machine to a good tech, he/she
may find a way to solve the problems you are having while not doing a
reset or reinstalling Windows.  I don't know how likely that is,
however, and you may end up spending more than you want with the
result that the problems aren't solved or that not all are.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 4:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Gene,
May 11 2021, is only some weeks away.  Jim said he will get the new
PC in 3 or 4 months from now.


Janet


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 2:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Which means that it is still receiving security and stability updates.
Therefore, there is no security reason to upgrade at this time. the
other
computer should be there long before support stops.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Janet
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 1:51 PM
To: 'main@TechTalk.groups.io'
Subject: [TechTalk] Win10 version 1909 end of servicing.

Hi Everyone,
Well, I just came across this article, and thought I would share, as
some
especially Jim might be interested in knowing.

Windows 10, version 1909 end of servicing (Home and Pro)
Published: February 11, 2021
Windows 10,
version 1909 will reach the end of servicing on May 11, 2021. This
applies
to the following editions of Windows 10 released in November of 2019:
list of 4 items
. Windows 10 Home, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro Education, version 1909
. Windows 10 Pro for Workstations, version 1909
These editions will no longer receive security updates after May 11,
2021.
Customers who contact Microsoft Support after this date will be
directed to
update their device to the
latest version
of Windows 10 to remain supported.


https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/announcements/windows-10-1909-end-of-servicing



Janet
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