Re: if you were getting a new computer.


John Holcomb II
 

It'll make a difference if you don't have the extra RAM and it needs to go to the page file.
It'll make a difference in boot times.
It'll make a different in program launch times.
It'll make a difference if you are opening big files and trying to read or write in it with a screen reader.
It'll make a difference in saving larger files.
It'll make a difference that unless you've experienced it you won't know.
Take a computer that Run a core I5 3rd gen with an HDD and put even a SATA based SSD in it and you will notice in a system even that old.
SSDs are the way to go, and I wouldn't even suggest a PC without one at this point.
The price has come waaaay down.

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I'll assume that is true. But for what kinds of uses do those speed diffferences make any difference that matters?

Gene
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Gene,

It actually does make a huge difference in drives. For example, the 1tb samsung 970 plus while costing more, has a sustained write speed of 1700 mbps even when cache is exhausted, as opposed to the 900 of the 512 gb drive, and the 256 goes even lower.

Programs are substantially using more ram. Browsers and windows itself
is. The price of a ram at a 16 gb level will be just under 100 dollars, maybe 70 or so, but it changes b based on speed. The price difference between 8 and 16 gb is negligible. Me, I went all out with a 2x 16 gb kit for 32 gb to future proof my machine, and because 32 gb has more memory contacts on higher core pcs and increases performance more.

On 4/18/2021 11:38 AM, Gene wrote:
I doubt programs are getting that much bigger. Since I haven't seen
this elsewhere, I'll put it in the interesting category but I'd want a
good deal more verification. And even if they are, I am not convinced
that justifies getting more than 8GB for the average user. You can
add this expense and that expense until you are spending one-hundred
or two or three hundred dollars more than you have to and derive no
meaningful benefit.

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/much-ram-really-need/

Regarding digital drives, they are so fast to start with that even if
the larger drives are faster, does that matter? What are we talking
about, perhaps half a second speed difference to load a program? and
can you document that larger digital drives will last longer and that it matters?
Digital drives, from what I've readd will generally last far longer
than the computer using them so I remain to be convinced.

Regarding price, following your recommendations for a hard drive and
for RAM, how much more money would you be spending?

Gene
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As I said though, programs are getting bigger. I'd go with at 16 gb if
budget allowed to be safe. But the 512 drives have more write capacity
before they have to be replaced, and also faster write performance.


On 4/18/2021 9:04 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:


I don’t think most normal users would need 512GB.

IT really depends on what he is doing.

With read/write at 500 MB for a Sata-based SSD, he doesn’t need to
worry too much about that either.

I’d say a Core I5 would do it. AMD vs. intel either of these would be
fine.

We have no idea what kinda budget he is working with so THESE are just
some points to consider.

I do however agree with the 8GB ram.

John







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At a bare minimum, go for gigabit ethernet options, 8 gb of dual
channel ram, an ssd of at least 512 gb, 1tb if you can aford it, even
if you don't use 1tb the 1tb drive has a much higher write speed and
endurance. A processor should be at least current gen 11th gen intel
or fifth gen AMD r5, don't getv stuff like pentium/celeron/i3 processors.



On 4/15/2021 1:30 PM, Jim Rawls wrote:



I will let you know as I find out.





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Do you forsee yourself doing anything more then broadcasting?

I’d go with two sound cards for one thing.

Is there a price you have to contend with?

How are you storing your music files?

John







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Hi all,

It looks like I can select what I want on the computer I am getting,
so, I want your opinions.

What would you like on your computer? Since I am into music, and use
music files for my global voice shows, I obviously want a good player,
and, a good recorder to use. I want win amp as my primary player, and
have been using virtual recorder, but I’m open to suggestions on any recorder you
like. How much memory etc. would you like? any of these thoughts are
appreciated. I am running jaws 2018, but will be running jaws 2021 on
my new computer.[Jim









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