Re: Interesting but I’m not sure I get how this is different FW: A Set of Eyes Helps You Engage with Your Computer Screen


Robin Frost
 

Hi Gene and all,

Thanks for the description of how web pages appear.  I find such things to be very useful tools when interacting with sighted people.

As for the unintended sentence it's been my experience this sometimes happens most frequently for me in the Thunderbird client. When using Jaws For Windows it'll often have the subject line as the first line of the body of the message. Why I do not know.

Thanks again for the education.

Take good good care.

Robin


On 5/6/2021 1:32 PM, Gene wrote:
I’m not sure why this sentence is read before my message begins in the message body.  it isn’t part of my message.  The sentence is:
A Set of Eyes Helps You Engage with Your Computer Screen
 
Gehe
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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2021 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Interesting but I’m not sure I get how this is different FW: A Set of Eyes Helps You Engage with Your Computer Screen
 
I haven’t checked but I expect you can set JAWS to display things as they appear on screen to the extent other screen-readers do.  But System Access displays one link per line and NVDA can be set to display one link per line as well. 
 
And I don’t know of any screen-reader that displays things as they appear on web pages in most ways.  Any screen-reader I’ve used displays navigation links at the top of the page, then other text, then below that text, a clustr of other links, somewhat like the navigation links on top.  This is not how a web page appears to sighted users.  To sighted users, navigation links run down the left side of the page.  Other text appears more in the middle, then the cluster of links screen-readers show on the bottom appear on the right side of the screen. 
 
I haven’t read the article yet, but my point is that blind people aren’t shown web pages as sighted people see them.  If a sighted person says this link is on the right, that means it is in the cluster of links at the bottom of the page.  Rather than worry about such descriptions, if I know the name of the link, I use my screen-reader’s find command to find it. 
 
It is useful to know what I’ve described and it is informative to know how a sighted person sees web pages.  If I were telling a sighted person where to find a link, such knowledge might be useful in that way.
 
Gene
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Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2021 11:47 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Interesting but I’m not sure I get how this is different FW: A Set of Eyes Helps You Engage with Your Computer Screen
 

So I read this and even the  story (at least to me) doesn’t give enough info on how this is different than other screen readers.

Like doesn’t NVDA and narrator provide things as they appear on the webpage, where as JAWS doesn’t?

Also, what about the rest of the interactions that appear outside of the browser?

Would different engines behave differently?

John

 

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Subject: A Set of Eyes Helps You Engage with Your Computer Screen

 

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Hi John,

A Set of Eyes Helps You Engage with Your Computer Screen

Here at Pneuma Solutions, we’re always on the prowl for the latest technology that could redefine the way we interact with the world. Some of this technology we adopt into our own workflow for your benefit. At other times we have to stand back in admiration at the ingenuity other teams are leveraging to make the world more inclusive.

A student team at Johns Hopkins is developing a screen reader that takes a unique approach to rendering text. The prototype is called A Set of Eyes, and it seeks to provide an intelligent means of engaging with elements on environments like websites. We are confident the project will stand out as one of the university’s most promising initiatives with tangible benefit to the millions of blind people who rely on technology to lead successful and independent lives.

Click here to read the full story about this Johns Hopkins student team project



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