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Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Monte Single
 

Hi Lisa,

In many ways the Iphones and the androids are similar.
In apple land, You can ask siri some questions and get it to do some things.
Voiceover does not answer question or do things. It just reports what is on the screen.
Maybe things are similar with the Samsung galaxies.
Hopefully someone with the real info will clarify these things.
Maybe our great friend Olusegun will add his 20 cents worth.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lisa Belville
Sent: August 12, 2020 6:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Okay, so I'll ask this question. . . How much does it talk with just the Voice Assist? I know people who get the iPhone thinking SIRIUS will read and do everything for them and it just doesn't work that way. Can I use the Voice Assist to do other things besides texting and calling? What about Emails and surfing the net? I know you said you don't do these things, but is their voice feedback when trying to do them?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 6:02 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
I have a samsung galaxy s8, so I use voice asisst all the time. It's a fork from talkback. I am not a heavy power phone user. I use the thing mainly (gasp!) as a phone--taking calls and doing texts. I know shocking these days lol. But for me, I've never run into any problems. If you are coming from the land of fruits, I have no idea how different the user experience is going to be. I jumped straight into android without passing go and collecting 200 dollars back in 2014. From no phone to the Galaxy s6.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:25:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally
blind

Any experience with this Voice Assist? The only Android knowledge I
have is with an Amazon Fire Tablet with the Google Play Store on it,
but that uses Amazon's voice.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 4:03 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
It will have Samsung Voice Assist on it.
You'll find it under settings, accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:53:53 -0500
Subject: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Hi, all.


My sighted mom who knows nothing about smart phones is getting a
Samsung A10e from QVC. This looks like a good deal if you like
TracFone. I may have to help her learn to use it. Does this phone
have Talkback or some other Android speech? I am an iPhone user
with Verizon, but I am also curious about the quote Other Side unquote.


Any pointers would be helpful.


Lisa


--
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missktlab1217@...





Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Rob Hudson
 

Yes there is. It can read apps and all--as long as they're accessible. It's a fully featured screen reader.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 19:32:38 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Okay, so I'll ask this question. . . How much does it talk with just the
Voice Assist? I know people who get the iPhone thinking SIRIUS will
read and do everything for them and it just doesn't work that way. Can
I use the Voice Assist to do other things besides texting and calling?
What about Emails and surfing the net? I know you said you don't do
these things, but is their voice feedback when trying to do them?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 6:02 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
I have a samsung galaxy s8, so I use voice asisst all the time. It's a fork from talkback. I am not a heavy power phone user. I use the thing mainly (gasp!) as a phone--taking calls and doing texts. I know shocking these days lol. But for me, I've never run into any problems. If you are coming from the land of fruits, I have no idea how different the user experience is going to be. I jumped straight into android without passing go and collecting 200 dollars back in 2014. From no phone to the Galaxy s6.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:25:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Any experience with this Voice Assist? The only Android knowledge I
have is with an Amazon Fire Tablet with the Google Play Store on it, but
that uses Amazon's voice.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 4:03 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
It will have Samsung Voice Assist on it.
You'll find it under settings, accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:53:53 -0500
Subject: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Hi, all.


My sighted mom who knows nothing about smart phones is getting a Samsung
A10e from QVC. This looks like a good deal if you like TracFone. I may
have to help her learn to use it. Does this phone have Talkback or some
other Android speech? I am an iPhone user with Verizon, but I am also
curious about the quote Other Side unquote.


Any pointers would be helpful.


Lisa


--
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...







Re: Groups.io and Charter Email

Gene
 

That's what I said yesterday. Groups.io has a feature, on by default, that gets around GMail not sending you your own messages. But I wanted to verify that that is happening.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I can receive them on groups.io, but from other email servers, I can't.
Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: joseph hudson
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 12:10 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

No, Groups. that io has a rerouting function there is a checkbox in your
account, that will allow you to receive your own messages. I was explaining
this feature for Pam.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:03 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I'm not sure what command you are talking about. If it is the recent command, that isn't something you adjust on the web site, so I don't think you are talking about that. And, from trying it, I concluded that it wasn't sending my list mail directly from the list. It was sending me a copy of my message but not from the list serve. So it was useless in terms of telling me whether my messag had reached the list.

But none of this matters if you use Groups.io lists and a lot of e-mail lists have migrated there, or here, since we are using it on this list. GMail has no command to allow you to receive list mail. Groups.io has a command to circumvent GMail's not sending you your own list mail. It has been on by default for a long time. So, given the number of groups on Groups.io now, this may not be much problem anymore for a lot of blind e-mail list users or a minor one.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: joseph hudson
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 10:38 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

Oh and to also receive your own replies in your inbox, there is a setting on the groups.io website that needs to be changed. If you want, I can walk you through that as well as send you a automatic login link that way that you can go onto Jessie's settings or if you wish for me to do it for you, I could go off-line with you, and login to your Gmail and fix the problem for you if you would like. And I will by and if you don't feel comfortable with me doing it, if you want to give me your computer guys phone number that helps you out all the time, I can give him the steps and he can fix it for you if you would like. Because I know you've been going through a lot here lately.no means give anybody any of your information.
On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:31 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I don't know what you mean by bugging you. It never bugs me. And as far as your messages being under your replies, that's because you haven't changed a setting in either your e-mail program or GMail, its been so long I'm not sure which but I think if you are using an e-mail program it’s a setting in that program. There is a setting in the web interface to change the behavior as well.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 9:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I don't like gmail, because google keeps bugging me every time I turn
around, practically, and also, I can't see my messages when I post to a list
unless it is underneath a reply. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Gene
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

You have to pay for Fast Mail, but not with GMail. GMail works very well
and you can use it with e-mail programs. It may be that Fast Mail has
features some people may want but I don't think the typical e-mail user
would want them.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email


Hi Marie,

This is exactly why I ditched Charter and went to Fastmail for all my email
groups, . It seems that Charter will throttle down your email if you
receive / send too much email, but I could never get Charter / Spectrum to
admit to this and someone else on this list posted something to the effect
this would happen after a certain number of emails per month. Well whatever
the problem with Charter is, I have absolutely zero problems with Fastmail.
Another problem I had with Charter was boucing email with Groups.io which is
something I have zero problems using Fastmail.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message ----- From: Marie
To: techtalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:25 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages
just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the
two?

Marie






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Re: Groups.io and Charter Email

Gene
 

Since I don't know just what you hear or where you are from direct observation, the following is based on what appears to be the case. If it isn't, for example, if Google isn't the home page, let us know.

Either don't make Google your home page or turn off automatic going into forms mode when you are on an edit field.
Or just ignore where you are and use control O or control l if you are using browsers other than Internet Explorer and type an address. Or follow a book mark. Google, evidently is your home page and its opening. When it opens, Google automatically places you on the edit field to search. Your screehn-reader is probably automatically going into forms mode. Google isn't bugging you. Its doing what it should do as the home page.

As far as you not seeing your message, are you talking about when using Groups.io or other list serves?

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 5:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

No, my messages only show up if somebody replies to them, but I don't see
the message when I first send them. Only if somebody replies to them. As
for them being under the replies, that's where they belong. But every time
I open up a browser to type in a website, google automatically gets right
there and puts me in search mode, as if I'm searching for something, not
actually knowing what I want to open. So, I have to take it out of that
mode. That's what I mean bugging me all the time. I only want google if I
actually want to search for something. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 11:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I don't know what you mean by bugging you. It never bugs me. And as far as
your messages being under your replies, that's because you haven't changed a
setting in either your e-mail program or GMail, its been so long I'm not
sure which but I think if you are using an e-mail program it’s a setting in
that program. There is a setting in the web interface to change the
behavior as well.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 9:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I don't like gmail, because google keeps bugging me every time I turn
around, practically, and also, I can't see my messages when I post to a list
unless it is underneath a reply. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

You have to pay for Fast Mail, but not with GMail. GMail works very well
and you can use it with e-mail programs. It may be that Fast Mail has
features some people may want but I don't think the typical e-mail user
would want them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email


Hi Marie,

This is exactly why I ditched Charter and went to Fastmail for all my email
groups, . It seems that Charter will throttle down your email if you
receive / send too much email, but I could never get Charter / Spectrum to
admit to this and someone else on this list posted something to the effect
this would happen after a certain number of emails per month. Well whatever
the problem with Charter is, I have absolutely zero problems with Fastmail.
Another problem I had with Charter was boucing email with Groups.io which is
something I have zero problems using Fastmail.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Marie
To: techtalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:25 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages
just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the
two?

Marie






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Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Carolyn Arnold
 

Voice Assist is comparable to iOS's VoiceOver.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lisa Belville
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 8:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

LOL It's not just Androidville, it's Smart Phone land. She's in for a treat, that's for sure.


I'm seriously thinking of picking one up just to try it out. I'd love
to be able to just copy/paste things onto the phone using an SD card.


Lisa


How much can one do with just the voice assist? Is this designed to be
used like SIRI or does it read more information?




Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 6:19 PM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:
Tante Lisa, Samsung A10E is a great toy! Yes, it does come with
VoiceAssistant which is reasonably close to what you have in iOS land. Why
so? It does support multifinger gestures for example.

Since the toy is for mum who's sighted, no need to install Android Suite
which includes the Talkback screen reader on it.

If you need additional assistance with this toy, please feel free to contact
me privately. Tell mum to have fun with her new toy, and I bid her a
welcome to Androidville!!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado



Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Lisa Belville
 

Okay, so I'll ask this question. . . How much does it talk with just the Voice Assist?  I know people who get the iPhone thinking SIRIUS will read and do everything for them and it just doesn't work that way.  Can I use the Voice Assist to do other things besides texting and calling?  What about Emails and surfing the net?  I know you said you don't do these things, but is their voice feedback when trying to do them?



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 6:02 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
I have a samsung galaxy s8, so I use voice asisst all the time. It's a fork from talkback. I am not a heavy power phone user. I use the thing mainly (gasp!) as a phone--taking calls and doing texts. I know shocking these days lol. But for me, I've never run into any problems. If you are coming from the land of fruits, I have no idea how different the user experience is going to be. I jumped straight into android without passing go and collecting 200 dollars back in 2014. From no phone to the Galaxy s6.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:25:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Any experience with this Voice Assist?  The only Android knowledge I
have is with an Amazon Fire Tablet with the Google Play Store on it, but
that uses Amazon's voice.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 4:03 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
It will have Samsung Voice Assist on it.
You'll find it under settings, accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:53:53 -0500
Subject: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Hi, all.


My sighted mom who knows nothing about smart phones is getting a Samsung
A10e from QVC.  This looks like a good deal if you like TracFone.  I may
have to help her learn to use it.  Does this phone have Talkback or some
other Android speech?  I am an iPhone user with Verizon, but I am also
curious about the quote Other Side unquote.


Any pointers would be helpful.


Lisa


--
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...





Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Lisa Belville
 

LOL It's not just Androidville, it's Smart Phone land.  She's in for a treat, that's for sure.


I'm seriously thinking of picking one up just to try it out.  I'd love to be able to just copy/paste things onto the phone using an SD card.


Lisa


How much can one do with just the voice assist?  Is this designed to be used like SIRI or does it read more information?




Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 6:19 PM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote:
Tante Lisa, Samsung A10E is a great toy! Yes, it does come with
VoiceAssistant which is reasonably close to what you have in iOS land. Why
so? It does support multifinger gestures for example.

Since the toy is for mum who's sighted, no need to install Android Suite
which includes the Talkback screen reader on it.

If you need additional assistance with this toy, please feel free to contact
me privately. Tell mum to have fun with her new toy, and I bid her a
welcome to Androidville!!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Tante Lisa, Samsung A10E is a great toy! Yes, it does come with
VoiceAssistant which is reasonably close to what you have in iOS land. Why
so? It does support multifinger gestures for example.

Since the toy is for mum who's sighted, no need to install Android Suite
which includes the Talkback screen reader on it.

If you need additional assistance with this toy, please feel free to contact
me privately. Tell mum to have fun with her new toy, and I bid her a
welcome to Androidville!!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado

Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Rob Hudson
 

I have a samsung galaxy s8, so I use voice asisst all the time. It's a fork from talkback. I am not a heavy power phone user. I use the thing mainly (gasp!) as a phone--taking calls and doing texts. I know shocking these days lol. But for me, I've never run into any problems. If you are coming from the land of fruits, I have no idea how different the user experience is going to be. I jumped straight into android without passing go and collecting 200 dollars back in 2014. From no phone to the Galaxy s6.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:25:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Any experience with this Voice Assist? The only Android knowledge I
have is with an Amazon Fire Tablet with the Google Play Store on it, but
that uses Amazon's voice.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 4:03 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
It will have Samsung Voice Assist on it.
You'll find it under settings, accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:53:53 -0500
Subject: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Hi, all.


My sighted mom who knows nothing about smart phones is getting a Samsung
A10e from QVC. This looks like a good deal if you like TracFone. I may
have to help her learn to use it. Does this phone have Talkback or some
other Android speech? I am an iPhone user with Verizon, but I am also
curious about the quote Other Side unquote.


Any pointers would be helpful.


Lisa


--
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...






Re: Groups.io and Charter Email

Pamela Dominguez
 

Well, I like to see that my message made it to a list, so I like to be able to see it. Somebody gave a workaround a long time ago, but I don't understand it, and it makes it sound like I would not only get my messages, but several copies of the rest of the messages. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 12:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

That check box is checked by default in Groups.io. I wanted to make clear
that GMail doesn't properly let you receive your own messages from other
groups. That's annoying but since I only use Groups.io groups, it doesn't
matter. Even if I used other groups, messages almost always get to them so
that probablyy wouldn't stop me from using GMail.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: joseph hudson
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 11:10 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

No, Groups. that io has a rerouting function there is a checkbox in your
account, that will allow you to receive your own messages. I was explaining
this feature for Pam.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:03 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I'm not sure what command you are talking about. If it is the recent command, that isn't something you adjust on the web site, so I don't think you are talking about that. And, from trying it, I concluded that it wasn't sending my list mail directly from the list. It was sending me a copy of my message but not from the list serve. So it was useless in terms of telling me whether my messag had reached the list.

But none of this matters if you use Groups.io lists and a lot of e-mail lists have migrated there, or here, since we are using it on this list. GMail has no command to allow you to receive list mail. Groups.io has a command to circumvent GMail's not sending you your own list mail. It has been on by default for a long time. So, given the number of groups on Groups.io now, this may not be much problem anymore for a lot of blind e-mail list users or a minor one.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: joseph hudson
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 10:38 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

Oh and to also receive your own replies in your inbox, there is a setting on the groups.io website that needs to be changed. If you want, I can walk you through that as well as send you a automatic login link that way that you can go onto Jessie's settings or if you wish for me to do it for you, I could go off-line with you, and login to your Gmail and fix the problem for you if you would like. And I will by and if you don't feel comfortable with me doing it, if you want to give me your computer guys phone number that helps you out all the time, I can give him the steps and he can fix it for you if you would like. Because I know you've been going through a lot here lately.no means give anybody any of your information.
On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:31 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I don't know what you mean by bugging you. It never bugs me. And as far as your messages being under your replies, that's because you haven't changed a setting in either your e-mail program or GMail, its been so long I'm not sure which but I think if you are using an e-mail program it’s a setting in that program. There is a setting in the web interface to change the behavior as well.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 9:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I don't like gmail, because google keeps bugging me every time I turn
around, practically, and also, I can't see my messages when I post to a list
unless it is underneath a reply. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Gene
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

You have to pay for Fast Mail, but not with GMail. GMail works very well
and you can use it with e-mail programs. It may be that Fast Mail has
features some people may want but I don't think the typical e-mail user
would want them.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email


Hi Marie,

This is exactly why I ditched Charter and went to Fastmail for all my email
groups, . It seems that Charter will throttle down your email if you
receive / send too much email, but I could never get Charter / Spectrum to
admit to this and someone else on this list posted something to the effect
this would happen after a certain number of emails per month. Well whatever
the problem with Charter is, I have absolutely zero problems with Fastmail.
Another problem I had with Charter was boucing email with Groups.io which is
something I have zero problems using Fastmail.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message ----- From: Marie
To: techtalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:25 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages
just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the
two?

Marie






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Re: Groups.io and Charter Email

Pamela Dominguez
 

I can receive them on groups.io, but from other email servers, I can't. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: joseph hudson
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 12:10 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

No, Groups. that io has a rerouting function there is a checkbox in your account, that will allow you to receive your own messages. I was explaining this feature for Pam.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Aug 11, 2020, at 11:03 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I'm not sure what command you are talking about. If it is the recent command, that isn't something you adjust on the web site, so I don't think you are talking about that. And, from trying it, I concluded that it wasn't sending my list mail directly from the list. It was sending me a copy of my message but not from the list serve. So it was useless in terms of telling me whether my messag had reached the list.

But none of this matters if you use Groups.io lists and a lot of e-mail lists have migrated there, or here, since we are using it on this list. GMail has no command to allow you to receive list mail. Groups.io has a command to circumvent GMail's not sending you your own list mail. It has been on by default for a long time. So, given the number of groups on Groups.io now, this may not be much problem anymore for a lot of blind e-mail list users or a minor one.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: joseph hudson
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 10:38 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

Oh and to also receive your own replies in your inbox, there is a setting on the groups.io website that needs to be changed. If you want, I can walk you through that as well as send you a automatic login link that way that you can go onto Jessie's settings or if you wish for me to do it for you, I could go off-line with you, and login to your Gmail and fix the problem for you if you would like. And I will by and if you don't feel comfortable with me doing it, if you want to give me your computer guys phone number that helps you out all the time, I can give him the steps and he can fix it for you if you would like. Because I know you've been going through a lot here lately.no means give anybody any of your information.
On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:31 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I don't know what you mean by bugging you. It never bugs me. And as far as your messages being under your replies, that's because you haven't changed a setting in either your e-mail program or GMail, its been so long I'm not sure which but I think if you are using an e-mail program it’s a setting in that program. There is a setting in the web interface to change the behavior as well.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 9:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I don't like gmail, because google keeps bugging me every time I turn
around, practically, and also, I can't see my messages when I post to a list
unless it is underneath a reply. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Gene
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

You have to pay for Fast Mail, but not with GMail. GMail works very well
and you can use it with e-mail programs. It may be that Fast Mail has
features some people may want but I don't think the typical e-mail user
would want them.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email


Hi Marie,

This is exactly why I ditched Charter and went to Fastmail for all my email
groups, . It seems that Charter will throttle down your email if you
receive / send too much email, but I could never get Charter / Spectrum to
admit to this and someone else on this list posted something to the effect
this would happen after a certain number of emails per month. Well whatever
the problem with Charter is, I have absolutely zero problems with Fastmail.
Another problem I had with Charter was boucing email with Groups.io which is
something I have zero problems using Fastmail.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message ----- From: Marie
To: techtalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:25 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages
just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the
two?

Marie






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Re: Groups.io and Charter Email

Carolyn Arnold
 

I just go to Google and type in the web site in the Search mode; it works.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 6:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

No, my messages only show up if somebody replies to them, but I don't see the message when I first send them. Only if somebody replies to them. As for them being under the replies, that's where they belong. But every time I open up a browser to type in a website, google automatically gets right there and puts me in search mode, as if I'm searching for something, not actually knowing what I want to open. So, I have to take it out of that mode. That's what I mean bugging me all the time. I only want google if I actually want to search for something. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 11:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I don't know what you mean by bugging you. It never bugs me. And as far as your messages being under your replies, that's because you haven't changed a setting in either your e-mail program or GMail, its been so long I'm not sure which but I think if you are using an e-mail program it’s a setting in that program. There is a setting in the web interface to change the behavior as well.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 9:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I don't like gmail, because google keeps bugging me every time I turn around, practically, and also, I can't see my messages when I post to a list unless it is underneath a reply. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

You have to pay for Fast Mail, but not with GMail. GMail works very well and you can use it with e-mail programs. It may be that Fast Mail has features some people may want but I don't think the typical e-mail user would want them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email


Hi Marie,

This is exactly why I ditched Charter and went to Fastmail for all my email
groups, . It seems that Charter will throttle down your email if you
receive / send too much email, but I could never get Charter / Spectrum to
admit to this and someone else on this list posted something to the effect
this would happen after a certain number of emails per month. Well whatever
the problem with Charter is, I have absolutely zero problems with Fastmail.
Another problem I had with Charter was boucing email with Groups.io which is
something I have zero problems using Fastmail.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Marie
To: techtalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:25 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages
just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the
two?

Marie






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Re: Groups.io and Charter Email

Pamela Dominguez
 

No, my messages only show up if somebody replies to them, but I don't see the message when I first send them. Only if somebody replies to them. As for them being under the replies, that's where they belong. But every time I open up a browser to type in a website, google automatically gets right there and puts me in search mode, as if I'm searching for something, not actually knowing what I want to open. So, I have to take it out of that mode. That's what I mean bugging me all the time. I only want google if I actually want to search for something. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 11:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I don't know what you mean by bugging you. It never bugs me. And as far as
your messages being under your replies, that's because you haven't changed a
setting in either your e-mail program or GMail, its been so long I'm not
sure which but I think if you are using an e-mail program it’s a setting in
that program. There is a setting in the web interface to change the
behavior as well.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2020 9:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I don't like gmail, because google keeps bugging me every time I turn
around, practically, and also, I can't see my messages when I post to a list
unless it is underneath a reply. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 6:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

You have to pay for Fast Mail, but not with GMail. GMail works very well
and you can use it with e-mail programs. It may be that Fast Mail has
features some people may want but I don't think the typical e-mail user
would want them.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email


Hi Marie,

This is exactly why I ditched Charter and went to Fastmail for all my email
groups, . It seems that Charter will throttle down your email if you
receive / send too much email, but I could never get Charter / Spectrum to
admit to this and someone else on this list posted something to the effect
this would happen after a certain number of emails per month. Well whatever
the problem with Charter is, I have absolutely zero problems with Fastmail.
Another problem I had with Charter was boucing email with Groups.io which is
something I have zero problems using Fastmail.

Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Marie
To: techtalk@groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:25 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages
just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the
two?

Marie






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Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Lisa Belville
 

Any experience with this Voice Assist?  The only Android knowledge I have is with an Amazon Fire Tablet with the Google Play Store on it, but that uses Amazon's voice.



Lisa Belville
missktlab1217@...

On 8/12/2020 4:03 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
It will have Samsung Voice Assist on it.
You'll find it under settings, accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:53:53 -0500
Subject: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Hi, all.


My sighted mom who knows nothing about smart phones is getting a Samsung
A10e from QVC.  This looks like a good deal if you like TracFone.  I may
have to help her learn to use it.  Does this phone have Talkback or some
other Android speech?  I am an iPhone user with Verizon, but I am also
curious about the quote Other Side unquote.


Any pointers would be helpful.


Lisa


--
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missktlab1217@...




Re: Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Rob Hudson
 

It will have Samsung Voice Assist on it.
You'll find it under settings, accessibility.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217@...>
To: Tech Talk <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:53:53 -0500
Subject: [TechTalk] Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Hi, all.


My sighted mom who knows nothing about smart phones is getting a Samsung
A10e from QVC. This looks like a good deal if you like TracFone. I may
have to help her learn to use it. Does this phone have Talkback or some
other Android speech? I am an iPhone user with Verizon, but I am also
curious about the quote Other Side unquote.


Any pointers would be helpful.


Lisa


--
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missktlab1217@...




Encryption Software with JAWS

Jerry Berrier
 

I am seeking commercial encryption software for Windows that is compatible with JAWS. I’ve already been told there is no such thing, but I want to get a second opinion before I give up.

Right now we are using Trend Micro. It requires a login prior to Windows loading, so JAWS is not available and the user must log in “blind”.

Any suggestions?

Also, we tried encrypting a drive with Bitlocker and JAWS would not accept a password.  NVDA worked, but JAWS would not.  I cannot explain that one.

 

Jerry Berrier

508-735-4420

http://www.birdblind.org

 

Samsung Galaxy A10e usability for totally blind

Lisa Belville
 

Hi, all.


My sighted mom who knows nothing about smart phones is getting a Samsung A10e from QVC.  This looks like a good deal if you like TracFone.  I may have to help her learn to use it.  Does this phone have Talkback or some other Android speech?  I am an iPhone user with Verizon, but I am also curious about the quote Other Side unquote.


Any pointers would be helpful.


Lisa


--
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missktlab1217@...

Re: Groups.io and Charter Email

joseph hudson
 

Sometimes the big companies the spam boxes do not sing over another reason why I would suggest that, is because on mine whenever I first got my cable box, I had a box say I could check that would move all suspected messages that might be spam to my inbox I wouldn't even have to worry about checking my spam box. Which is what I've done with this current account.
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Aug 12, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Pamela Dominguez <pammygirl99@...> wrote:

Why would she have to go online to check the spam folder? Mine is in my email program. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: joseph hudson
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 10:47 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

Marie, go online and check your spam folder sometimes these things in Dippin there.
On Aug 10, 2020, at 9:44 PM, Marie <magpie.mn@...> wrote:

I sent a subscribe email to Groups.io and never received a confirmation email. The group did not require approval for subscription.
But,as I stated I can receive from other sources?



Marie
-----Original Message----- From: joseph hudson
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:29 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

What exactly is the issue? Are you not able to receive are you not able to send what's the deal?
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Aug 10, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Marie <magpie.mn@...> wrote:

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the two?

Marie







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Re: Groups.io and Charter Email

Pamela Dominguez
 

Why would she have to go online to check the spam folder? Mine is in my email program. Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: joseph hudson
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 10:47 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

Marie, go online and check your spam folder sometimes these things in Dippin there.
On Aug 10, 2020, at 9:44 PM, Marie <magpie.mn@...> wrote:

I sent a subscribe email to Groups.io and never received a confirmation email. The group did not require approval for subscription.
But,as I stated I can receive from other sources?



Marie
-----Original Message----- From: joseph hudson
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 1:29 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Groups.io and Charter Email

What exactly is the issue? Are you not able to receive are you not able to send what's the deal?
joseph hudson

Email FaceTime and iMessage
jhud7789@...


Office phone/what's up messenger

254-300-7667

Emergency sell

254-813-2461

https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404

https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Aug 10, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Marie <magpie.mn@...> wrote:

I have a charter email account set up and I can send and receive messages just fine except to or from Groups.io. Is there some conflict between the two?

Marie







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Re: Orbert reader 20

Michael Rodgerson
 

Norman, the person I baught it from didn't include the SD card it
needs. Yes I did charge it.