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Re: SE 2020 input please!
Monte Single
That would be the iphone SE 2020.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: July 14, 2021 6:15 AM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] SE 2020 input please!
Please: What is an SE? On 7/13/2021 10:08 PM, James Bentley wrote:
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Re: SE 2020 input please!
Dave Mitchel
thank you to all who replied with input.
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since I can get $200 off from my carrier I think I'll be doing this exchange pretty soon. Y'all take care and once again thank You! Dave
On 7/13/2021 4:59 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote:
I am considering updating my old SE with the newer one and would like
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Re: Talking DAB/FM radio demo
Pamela Dominguez
Except, if you have been following the subject, none of us in the U.S. can
use this. It’s a whole different system than ours. Pam.
From: Gary Greico
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: FW: [TechTalk] Talking DAB/FM radio
demo Thought you might like to check this out for the future.
On 10-Jul-21 2:01 PM, John Holcomb II
wrote:
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Re: SE 2020 input please!
The SE is the second generation of the iPhone SE. actually I think it’s called the SE2.
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Ashley
On Jul 14, 2021, at 7:15 AM, Howard Traxler <htraxler7@...> wrote:
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Re: SE 2020 input please!
Howard Traxler
Please: What is an SE?
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On 7/13/2021 10:08 PM, James Bentley
wrote:
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Iphone stress
Kerryann Ifill <ksbf@...>
Hello, I need some help seriously!
For some strange reason, since last night, my voiceover has been not working properly. I can only get speech if it comes through Bluetooth headset, if I disconnect this headset I cannot get any speech output. At the same time, my braille display, which is functioning perfectly otherwise, will not respond to anything other than being able to read if I swipe on the screen. I am using an iPhone 12 mini, is the latest update of the operating System. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated! Thanks Kerryann F.. Ifill
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Re: reading pdf's
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
That’s cool, but I was simply responding to wait a little while for the file to fully open. I thought 10-minutes was plenty of time. The only OCR I have is the one that is the one with jaws 20 I think the version is. That didn’t work. My employer has a tendency to have scanned images of pdf’s, I’ve notice over the 14 years I’ve been working for them lol.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 9:21 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading pdf's
I can open a file that is a book of perhaps two or three-hundred pages and, though I haven’t kept careful track of how long it takes, it could be two or three minutes. It might be less. And that is with a computer that is old and not as fast as moderately priced computers are now. At its time, it was moderately priced.
The next question is how you are going to have the image file recognized. If you don’t have an OCR program already, I don’t know if you can use a demo, or if you may have to send the file to someone to have it recognized.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Kimsan via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading pdf's
I’m thinking it’s an image file, as I waited 10 minutes.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Wait a little while for the file to fully open, at which point, it will be displayed below those options. If you can’t read it after a little while, its likely an image file. If You don’t have to wait, you can start down arrowing until you get to the end of the options. You can keep down arrowing and when the file has loaded, you will start moving down in the text.
Gene -----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading pdf's
I was able to navigate to and launch the file after doing CTRL o. However, after the pdf opens, how come it says edit page one, fit to page, zoom in, etc. Can’t I just read the pdf? It just gives me options to download or print.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
If that’s the case, I don’t know why shift tabbing once or twice doesn’t place you in the folders and files list.
Gene -----Original Message-----
Yes, I hear open dialog
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
I checked a bit ago but I didn’t remember the exact wording correctly. I hear open dialog. I then hear file name combo box spoken. I’m correcting the description for accuracy. Either way shouldn’t have caused problems This small change in my description of what you hear shouldn’t be of importance and I’m using NVDA. Even if you hear something slightly different, it shouldn’t matter. But it may be very helpful to know what you hear when the dialog opens.
Gene -----Original Message-----
Do you hear open file dialog spoken when you issue the command control o? Try shift tabbing more than once. I don’t know just exactly what you will move through but there should be a list of files and folders, as there is in any standard open dialog.
From your description, however, you may not be in the open file dialog. If not, and if you are using control o, I don’t know what the problem is. You can use another program, of course, I discussed using browsers because you won’t have to install another program.
If you don’t hear open file dialog when you use control o and wait a little while, let us know and let us know what you do hear.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Kimsan via groups.io Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2021 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading pdf's
Using chrome, when I do CTRL O, shift tab to navigate to the file, so far all I hear is remove and the name of a recent URL I visited.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
What browser do you use? If it isn’t Internet Explorer and is reasonably current, it will be likely to be able to read PDF documents.
Chrome-based browsers can and Firefox can. I don’t know about other browsers.
Use control o, not control l to open the open file dialog. Find and open the file just as you would in any open dialog.
Wait a bit and then start down arrowing. You may see preliminary items that don’t matter but below various buttons and perhaps this or that odd and end, the document should begin.
it may be, I haven’t compared or seen much about this, that this or that browser may render a document better in terms of formatting.
Gene -----Original Message-----
Hi, I have a pdf file, I need to be able to read it, what program can I use? Also, where can it be downloaded? Thanks.
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Re: reading pdf's
Gene
I can open a file that is a book of perhaps two or three-hundred pages and,
though I haven’t kept careful track of how long it takes, it could be two
or three minutes. It might be less. And that is with a computer that
is old and not as fast as moderately priced computers are now. At its
time, it was moderately priced.
The next question is how you are going to have the image
file recognized. If you don’t have an OCR program already, I don’t know if
you can use a demo, or if you may have to send the file to someone to have it
recognized.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading pdf's I’m thinking it’s an image file, as I waited 10 minutes.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Wait a little while for the file to fully open, at which point, it will be displayed below those options. If you can’t read it after a little while, its likely an image file. If You don’t have to wait, you can start down arrowing until you get to the end of the options. You can keep down arrowing and when the file has loaded, you will start moving down in the text.
Gene -----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading pdf's
I was able to navigate to and launch the file after doing CTRL o. However, after the pdf opens, how come it says edit page one, fit to page, zoom in, etc. Can’t I just read the pdf? It just gives me options to download or print.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
If that’s the case, I don’t know why shift tabbing once or twice doesn’t place you in the folders and files list.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Kimsan via groups.io Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading pdf's
Yes, I hear open dialog
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
I checked a bit ago but I didn’t remember the exact wording correctly. I hear open dialog. I then hear file name combo box spoken. I’m correcting the description for accuracy. Either way shouldn’t have caused problems This small change in my description of what you hear shouldn’t be of importance and I’m using NVDA. Even if you hear something slightly different, it shouldn’t matter. But it may be very helpful to know what you hear when the dialog opens.
Gene -----Original Message-----
Do you hear open file dialog spoken when you issue the command control o? Try shift tabbing more than once. I don’t know just exactly what you will move through but there should be a list of files and folders, as there is in any standard open dialog.
From your description, however, you may not be in the open file dialog. If not, and if you are using control o, I don’t know what the problem is. You can use another program, of course, I discussed using browsers because you won’t have to install another program.
If you don’t hear open file dialog when you use control o and wait a little while, let us know and let us know what you do hear.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Kimsan via groups.io Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2021 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading pdf's
Using chrome, when I do CTRL O, shift tab to navigate to the file, so far all I hear is remove and the name of a recent URL I visited.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
What browser do you use? If it isn’t Internet Explorer and is reasonably current, it will be likely to be able to read PDF documents.
Chrome-based browsers can and Firefox can. I don’t know about other browsers.
Use control o, not control l to open the open file dialog. Find and open the file just as you would in any open dialog.
Wait a bit and then start down arrowing. You may see preliminary items that don’t matter but below various buttons and perhaps this or that odd and end, the document should begin.
it may be, I haven’t compared or seen much about this, that this or that browser may render a document better in terms of formatting.
Gene -----Original Message-----
Hi, I have a pdf file, I need to be able to read it, what program can I use? Also, where can it be downloaded? Thanks.
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Re: reading pdf's
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
I’m thinking it’s an image file, as I waited 10 minutes.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 4:50 PM To: main@TechTalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading pdf's
Wait a little while for the file to fully open, at which point, it will be displayed below those options. If you can’t read it after a little while, its likely an image file. If You don’t have to wait, you can start down arrowing until you get to the end of the options. You can keep down arrowing and when the file has loaded, you will start moving down in the text.
Gene -----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading pdf's
I was able to navigate to and launch the file after doing CTRL o. However, after the pdf opens, how come it says edit page one, fit to page, zoom in, etc. Can’t I just read the pdf? It just gives me options to download or print.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
If that’s the case, I don’t know why shift tabbing once or twice doesn’t place you in the folders and files list.
Gene -----Original Message-----
Yes, I hear open dialog
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
I checked a bit ago but I didn’t remember the exact wording correctly. I hear open dialog. I then hear file name combo box spoken. I’m correcting the description for accuracy. Either way shouldn’t have caused problems This small change in my description of what you hear shouldn’t be of importance and I’m using NVDA. Even if you hear something slightly different, it shouldn’t matter. But it may be very helpful to know what you hear when the dialog opens.
Gene -----Original Message-----
Do you hear open file dialog spoken when you issue the command control o? Try shift tabbing more than once. I don’t know just exactly what you will move through but there should be a list of files and folders, as there is in any standard open dialog.
From your description, however, you may not be in the open file dialog. If not, and if you are using control o, I don’t know what the problem is. You can use another program, of course, I discussed using browsers because you won’t have to install another program.
If you don’t hear open file dialog when you use control o and wait a little while, let us know and let us know what you do hear.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Kimsan via groups.io Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2021 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading pdf's
Using chrome, when I do CTRL O, shift tab to navigate to the file, so far all I hear is remove and the name of a recent URL I visited.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
What browser do you use? If it isn’t Internet Explorer and is reasonably current, it will be likely to be able to read PDF documents.
Chrome-based browsers can and Firefox can. I don’t know about other browsers.
Use control o, not control l to open the open file dialog. Find and open the file just as you would in any open dialog.
Wait a bit and then start down arrowing. You may see preliminary items that don’t matter but below various buttons and perhaps this or that odd and end, the document should begin.
it may be, I haven’t compared or seen much about this, that this or that browser may render a document better in terms of formatting.
Gene -----Original Message-----
Hi, I have a pdf file, I need to be able to read it, what program can I use? Also, where can it be downloaded? Thanks.
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Re: SE 2020 input please!
James Bentley
Not only does the SE sound at least twice as good, it is way way, faster.
You can purchase a $10.00, short cable from Amazon that will allow you to plug your old headphones in to the new SE. I just leave the adaptor cable attached to my headphones 100% of the time.
HTH,
James B From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
The SE2020 sounds a hell of a lot better.
Stay safe & take care. Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Holcomb II Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] SE 2020 input please!
No Headphone jack.
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Re: NVDA voices
Quentin Christensen
NVDA has used OneCore voices (the voices built in to Windows 10 which Narrator also uses) as the default since NVDA 2018.2 - but if you had previously installed it and been updating it since, it wouldn't have changed the synthesizer you were already using. To get new voices for OneCore, you need to install new speech packs in Windows. Assuming you are using English (UK, American, etc), if you go to Windows language settings, and add new languages, look for the English ones, there are a number such as Canadian, Australian, and so on, and each of these come with speech packs which usually have at least two voices. Once installed, you'll need to restart, but NVDA will find the voices. Also, if you DO still like Eloquence, there is a legal solution - Code Factory make an NVDA add-on for Eloquence, and Vocalizer voices: https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/ Kind regards Quentin.
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Re: SE 2020 input please!
Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
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The SE2020 sounds a hell of a lot
better.
Stay safe & take care. Mike. Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say: "Close Enough!"
----- Original Message -----
From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] SE 2020 input please! John -----Original Message----- From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashley Breger via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 8:23 PM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] SE 2020 input please! Hi Dave, The only difference is that the new SE is a little bit bigger and your buttons are on the sides versus on the top and on the side. Let me know if you have any other questions, Ashley > On Jul 13, 2021, at 7:00 PM, Dave Mitchel <dbmitchel@...> wrote: > > I am considering updating my old SE with the newer one and would like input on whether they are worth upgrading or not. what is the learning curve on the newer phones etc. > > Thanks Bunches! > > Dave > > > > > > >
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Re: SE 2020 input please!
John Holcomb II
No Headphone jack.
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John
-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashley Breger via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 8:23 PM To: main@techtalk.groups.io Subject: Re: [TechTalk] SE 2020 input please! Hi Dave, The only difference is that the new SE is a little bit bigger and your buttons are on the sides versus on the top and on the side. Let me know if you have any other questions, Ashley On Jul 13, 2021, at 7:00 PM, Dave Mitchel <dbmitchel@centurylink.net> wrote:
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Re: SE 2020 input please!
Hi Dave,
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The only difference is that the new SE is a little bit bigger and your buttons are on the sides versus on the top and on the side. Let me know if you have any other questions, Ashley
On Jul 13, 2021, at 7:00 PM, Dave Mitchel <dbmitchel@centurylink.net> wrote:
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Re: SE 2020 input please!
Holly
Dave:
Not much of a learning curve at all for the new SE 2020. It still has the home button and is the same size as the iPhone 7. I have had mine for six months and love it. The battery is not as powerful as the more expensive phones, but it works for me, cause I don't do much on the internet or phone calls. I usually only have to charge it every 24 hours.
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SE 2020 input please!
Dave Mitchel
I am considering updating my old SE with the newer one and would like input on whether they are worth upgrading or not. what is the learning curve on the newer phones etc.
Thanks Bunches! Dave
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Re: reading pdf's
Gene
Wait a little while for the file to fully open, at which point, it will be
displayed below those options. If you can’t read it after a little while,
its likely an image file.
If You don’t have to wait, you can start down arrowing until you get to the
end of the options. You can keep down arrowing and when the file has
loaded, you will start moving down in the text.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading pdf's I was able to navigate to and launch the file after doing CTRL o. However, after the pdf opens, how come it says edit page one, fit to page, zoom in, etc. Can’t I just read the pdf? It just gives me options to download or print.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
<main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
If that’s the case, I don’t know why shift tabbing once or twice doesn’t place you in the folders and files list.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Kimsan via groups.io Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading pdf's
Yes, I hear open dialog
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
I checked a bit ago but I didn’t remember the exact wording correctly. I hear open dialog. I then hear file name combo box spoken. I’m correcting the description for accuracy. Either way shouldn’t have caused problems This small change in my description of what you hear shouldn’t be of importance and I’m using NVDA. Even if you hear something slightly different, it shouldn’t matter. But it may be very helpful to know what you hear when the dialog opens.
Gene -----Original Message-----
Do you hear open file dialog spoken when you issue the command control o? Try shift tabbing more than once. I don’t know just exactly what you will move through but there should be a list of files and folders, as there is in any standard open dialog.
From your description, however, you may not be in the open file dialog. If not, and if you are using control o, I don’t know what the problem is. You can use another program, of course, I discussed using browsers because you won’t have to install another program.
If you don’t hear open file dialog when you use control o and wait a little while, let us know and let us know what you do hear.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Kimsan via groups.io Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2021 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [TechTalk] reading pdf's
Using chrome, when I do CTRL O, shift tab to navigate to the file, so far all I hear is remove and the name of a recent URL I visited.
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Gene
What browser do you use? If it isn’t Internet Explorer and is reasonably current, it will be likely to be able to read PDF documents.
Chrome-based browsers can and Firefox can. I don’t know about other browsers.
Use control o, not control l to open the open file dialog. Find and open the file just as you would in any open dialog.
Wait a bit and then start down arrowing. You may see preliminary items that don’t matter but below various buttons and perhaps this or that odd and end, the document should begin.
it may be, I haven’t compared or seen much about this, that this or that browser may render a document better in terms of formatting.
Gene -----Original Message-----
Hi, I have a pdf file, I need to be able to read it, what program can I use? Also, where can it be downloaded? Thanks.
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How to export from Outlook Express
Kay Malmquist
Hi all,
I would like to export my account and all folders
in Outlook express to Microsoft outlook that is on another machine. Any
ideas as to how best to go about doing this? I briefly looked around but
am not sure about what I should do. Ultimately, I'd rather just set up
Outlook express on this other machine even though I have Microsoft 2019 there
already. I'm open to any suggestions. Thanks much.
"Where focus goes, energy flows." Bob Proctor
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NVDA voices
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
Hi, Last week, I installed NVDA, it sounds like it’s using narrator. That’s a huge improvement from whatever the old one was called that I cannot remember right now, but I am wondering where can I get other voices as I am not liking what it’s using right now.
In all honesty, before I was using eloquence for NVDA, but this was several years ago and it was a hack. Don’t misread that last statement, I’m not asking for a hack, I’m just saying that is how I used it last time, several years ago.
Thank you.
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