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braille display email list questions

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I know there's the bdu list, but are there any other general lists for
discussing any/all braille displays? Even better are there any lists
specifically for users of Freedom Scientific's braille displays? Look forward to
any info anyone can provide me!!! Thanks Madison


Re: jaws license and sma

Holly
 

John:
 
Narrator in Windows 10 has much improved, but never come close to JAWS.  Some say NVDA is very good, but I have never tried it.  It is a free program though, although, they do accept donations.


Re: jaws license and sma

Gene
 

If you want to see about Narrator, why not try NVDA.  I don’t know how you use your computer and I don’t know how well NVDA would meet your needs but it meets a lot of users’ needs well. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma
 

Yeah I  use it as my Only for the most part, too.

I say for the most part as I need to upgrade to Windows 10 soon. I’d like to see what  narrator offers, but I’ll probably wind up going back to JAWS honestly. And I really really want that SSD too.

 

Yeah worth a phone call every year!

I half expect that $120 to be higher next year, which is why I did it to begin with.

If it is higher in price next year or even two years from now, then I won’t have to buy that year.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 2:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma

 

John:

 

Good for you!  Ya, figured that you couldn’t buy more than one SMA upgrade at a time.  Anyway, sounds like you are set for quite awhile.  Worth a phone call.

 

I also use JAWS as my primary, and only, screen reader.

 

Holly


Re: Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Unfortunately that is not always the case.  I think it depends on how the meeting is set up, and some meetings I join require one.

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thom Spittle via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 2:58 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

 

If you are dialing in, you do not need a passcode.



On Jul 23, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:



I don’t know if a Zoom invitation can contain only a phone number.  If you read it and you don’t see things clearly stated such as ID and then the code and then on another line password followed by the code, then it appears you don’t have such information.

 

Usually, before the information you are asking about, you get a link containing all the information you need.  If you follow that link, your default browser will open and you can launch zoom from the page that opens and be taken to the meeting.  You may do whichever you want, but that is a more convenient way, requiring less writing.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 1:38 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

 

All,

 

I am using JAWS 2021 and Outlook.  I am trying to find the passcode for a Zoom meeting but do not see that on the meeting invite.  I am dialing in by phone only, and not activating the Zoom link.  Can anyone tell me if it is somewhere in the Outlook meeting invite that I am missing?

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

 

 


Re: jaws license and sma

John Holcomb II
 

Yeah I  use it as my Only for the most part, too.

I say for the most part as I need to upgrade to Windows 10 soon. I’d like to see what  narrator offers, but I’ll probably wind up going back to JAWS honestly. And I really really want that SSD too.

 

Yeah worth a phone call every year!

I half expect that $120 to be higher next year, which is why I did it to begin with.

If it is higher in price next year or even two years from now, then I won’t have to buy that year.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 2:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma

 

John:

 

Good for you!  Ya, figured that you couldn’t buy more than one SMA upgrade at a time.  Anyway, sounds like you are set for quite awhile.  Worth a phone call.

 

I also use JAWS as my primary, and only, screen reader.

 

Holly


Re: Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

Thom Spittle
 

If you are dialing in, you do not need a passcode.


On Jul 23, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


I don’t know if a Zoom invitation can contain only a phone number.  If you read it and you don’t see things clearly stated such as ID and then the code and then on another line password followed by the code, then it appears you don’t have such information.
 
Usually, before the information you are asking about, you get a link containing all the information you need.  If you follow that link, your default browser will open and you can launch zoom from the page that opens and be taken to the meeting.  You may do whichever you want, but that is a more convenient way, requiring less writing.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 1:38 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting
 

All,

 

I am using JAWS 2021 and Outlook.  I am trying to find the passcode for a Zoom meeting but do not see that on the meeting invite.  I am dialing in by phone only, and not activating the Zoom link.  Can anyone tell me if it is somewhere in the Outlook meeting invite that I am missing?

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

 

 


Re: jaws license and sma

Holly
 

John:
 
Good for you!  Ya, figured that you couldn’t buy more than one SMA upgrade at a time.  Anyway, sounds like you are set for quite awhile.  Worth a phone call.
 
I also use JAWS as my primary, and only, screen reader.
 
Holly


Re: Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

Gene
 

I don’t know if a Zoom invitation can contain only a phone number.  If you read it and you don’t see things clearly stated such as ID and then the code and then on another line password followed by the code, then it appears you don’t have such information.
 
Usually, before the information you are asking about, you get a link containing all the information you need.  If you follow that link, your default browser will open and you can launch zoom from the page that opens and be taken to the meeting.  You may do whichever you want, but that is a more convenient way, requiring less writing.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 1:38 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting
 

All,

 

I am using JAWS 2021 and Outlook.  I am trying to find the passcode for a Zoom meeting but do not see that on the meeting invite.  I am dialing in by phone only, and not activating the Zoom link.  Can anyone tell me if it is somewhere in the Outlook meeting invite that I am missing?

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

 

 


Re: jaws license and sma

John Holcomb II
 

Holly,

So let me tell you my story.

I had an SMA thru 2023 already.

So if you went to FSActivate.com and put  in my serial number, it said I had an SMA thru 2023 and wouldn’t let me buy.

However, when I called them they gave me the $120 price.

This  only works for one SMA, I  asked  if I could buy 2 at that discount and the  answer is a nope.

I was told that FS does offer these prices n every year around this time, but was also told do not quote her on that.

TO me this m means for as long as she’s been working there, around the m full month of July, you can get that discounted SMA rate.

But this, like anything could change.

I also asked if there was a clause as  to what would happen if FS went out of business, would a user get their money back?

To which sails responded most likely that  won’t happen (I don’t think it’d happen either), but in affect she had no idea what would happen in that situation.

SO  now I’m upgraded to 2025.

The reason why I did it, is that I I’ve heard rumblings of SMA’s going up in price, and I want to get my money’s worth from this product since I use it every day for my  primary.

John

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 10:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma

 

John:

 

Let us know how it works out for you.  I have a feeling that they won’t let you do that, but I could be wrong.  LOL.


Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

All,

 

I am using JAWS 2021 and Outlook.  I am trying to find the passcode for a Zoom meeting but do not see that on the meeting invite.  I am dialing in by phone only, and not activating the Zoom link.  Can anyone tell me if it is somewhere in the Outlook meeting invite that I am missing?

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

 

 


Re: Jaws 2022

Gene
 

If you are going to send links to a free version of Eloquence, this is illegal and will not be permitted.  If you want to send information about IBM’s Via Voice, that will be allowed. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022
 

Hi Josh,

 

Please could you send me the links to the IBMpublicFTP and the Internet Archive website.

 

Thanks,

 

Bernard

 

On 23/07/2021 14:56, Josh Kennedy wrote:
I wonder if freedom scientific has to pay a license fee to someone in order to let everyone have and use Eloquence in jaws? If so its probably not much at all since the last time eloquence was updated was about 20 years ago. And there are also free versions of eloquence that are on the internet archive website and another free version of eloquence on IBM's public ftp site which supports more languages and features than the eloquence that comes with jaws. 


Re: Jaws 2022

Bernard Georgiou
 

Hi Josh,


Please could you send me the links to the IBMpublicFTP and the Internet Archive website.


Thanks,


Bernard


On 23/07/2021 14:56, Josh Kennedy wrote:
I wonder if freedom scientific has to pay a license fee to someone in order to let everyone have and use Eloquence in jaws? If so its probably not much at all since the last time eloquence was updated was about 20 years ago. And there are also free versions of eloquence that are on the internet archive website and another free version of eloquence on IBM's public ftp site which supports more languages and features than the eloquence that comes with jaws. 


Re: Jaws 2022

Gene
 

Are you talking about Eloquence or Via Voice on the IBM site?  It should be Via Voice, which is not the same program and is not owned by IBM.
 
I don’t know how much FS pays but I would think it would be a small amount compared to other expenses such as development.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022
 
I wonder if freedom scientific has to pay a license fee to someone in order to let everyone have and use Eloquence in jaws? If so its probably not much at all since the last time eloquence was updated was about 20 years ago. And there are also free versions of eloquence that are on the internet archive website and another free version of eloquence on IBM's public ftp site which supports more languages and features than the eloquence that comes with jaws. 


Re: Fire TV Extinguished

Steve Matzura
 

Been there, done that.

On 7/22/2021 11:59 PM, Wendy Walker wrote:
Could you possibly use be my eyes or the free five minutes Ira promotion to check your settings?

Wendy


On Jul 22, 2021, at 2:42 PM, Steve Matzura <number6@noisynotes.com> wrote:

Imagine my surprise when I clicked on the "Buy it again" button and was told the 43-inch model is unavailable. 32" is too small, 50" too big. It's 43 or bust, I'm afraid.


On 7/22/2021 3:29 PM, chris judge wrote:
I just checked amazon. In the Canadian store they have both the 50 inch and
the 32 inch Toshiba fire tv, so I'd be surprised if it's not available in
the American store.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: July 22, 2021 2:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fire TV Extinguished

Steve:

It seems strange that your Toshiba bit the dust after just three years.
Make sure something didn't get turned off by mistake.


Re: Fire TV Extinguished

Steve Matzura
 

Hey thanks! Think I'll pick one up while they're still available.

On 7/22/2021 3:49 PM, Holly wrote:
Steve:

It looks like Best Buy has the 43".  Here is the link.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/toshiba-43-class-led-4k-uhd-smart-firetv/6394760.p?skuId=6394760


Re: Jaws 2022

Josh Kennedy
 

I wonder if freedom scientific has to pay a license fee to someone in order to let everyone have and use Eloquence in jaws? If so its probably not much at all since the last time eloquence was updated was about 20 years ago. And there are also free versions of eloquence that are on the internet archive website and another free version of eloquence on IBM's public ftp site which supports more languages and features than the eloquence that comes with jaws. 


Re: Problem Updating Jaws

Mike B.
 


No, this will install just like using the way you have been doing it, but this is actually better, there's less chance of error.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Problem Updating Jaws

Thank you.  When I do this, will I need to know my license key and serial number?  Mine usually does it automatically when I hit yes but for some reason, it's not.

Shelly

On 7/22/2021 9:20 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Shelly,
 
Use this direct download link to download the installer and install it from your computer using the downloaded installer.
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:57 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Problem Updating Jaws

Hi Group:


Yesterday, I got the notification to update to the new version of Jaws
and I do as I normally do. When it comes up, it will ask me if I want
to update it and I say yes and then it asks me if I want to let the
changes come on my hard drive and I say yes to that but for some reason,
nothing is happening. I have tried it three different ways. I go to
where it says yes and I hit Alt Y and wait a while and nothing seems to
happen and then I find it again and I hit either space and then enter
and nothing is happening. Any help will be greatly appreciated. What
should I be listening for so I know it's updating? I'm getting complete
silence.

Shelly






Re: jaws license and sma

Gerald Levy
 


Wow, you must be rotten rich or else love Vispero so much that you would want to fork over hundreds and hundreds of dollars in advance for ten years' worth of SMA's.  This makes absolutely no sense because who knows what the future will hold.  FS could go belly up within the next ten years and then you would be out all that money.  Since you are apparently very comfortable financially, , it would make no sense to extend your SMA more than two years at a time.  If the price goes up after two years, you would obviously be able to afford the nominal price increase.


Gerald



On 7/22/2021 10:20 PM, John Holcomb II wrote:

I’ve never done it either but maybe I could really stretch this thing out for like 10 years or something .

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 10:19 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma

 

I've never done it, but I don't see why not.  The only way to find out is to call their sales department and ask them.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:09 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma

 

So right now I have until  Jaws 2023 .

Could I get this and get until 2025?

Could I get multiple SMA’s and get to 2027?

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:14 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma

 

Hi Amy,

 

In a nutshell, if you have the annual license version you pay $95 a year to have it, but I don't know if this is a fixed price or if this price will go up.

 

On the other hand, if you have an SMA, when you buy the SMA this is good for 2 years / 2 versions of Jaws and when purchased in advance you get 2 versions of Jaws for $150.  Right now FS / Vispero has a sale going on until the end of the month and the SMA is $120.

 

It's hard to explain the purchase in advance I mentioned, as an example I always buy my SMA's almost 1 year in advance.  So, my current SMA covered J2022, but because of this sale I purchased my J2023 & J2024 SMA to take advantage of the sale price.

 

For any further explanation you might want to give FS / Vispero sales a call and make sure they give you the sale price if you do buy an SMA.  Their Phone# Is below.

Sales: 1-8800-444-4443

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Amy Gordon

To: TechTalk

Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 5:46 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma

 

Hi, was wondering what the differance is between the yearly license
and the s.m.a.  for Jaws for windows?  I currently have the 2021
version of jaws.  Trying to decide which would be better for upgrading
yearly or s.m..  Thanks for any help.
Amy



Re: jaws license and sma

chris judge
 

I don’t think they will. I think you have to be either running the latest version, or be upgrading to current version from a previous version to purchase a SMA.

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: July 22, 2021 11:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma

 

John:

 

Let us know how it works out for you.  I have a feeling that they won’t let you do that, but I could be wrong.  LOL.


Re: Problem Updating Jaws

Shelly Kane
 

Thank you.  When I do this, will I need to know my license key and serial number?  Mine usually does it automatically when I hit yes but for some reason, it's not.

Shelly

On 7/22/2021 9:20 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Shelly,
 
Use this direct download link to download the installer and install it from your computer using the downloaded installer.
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:57 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Problem Updating Jaws

Hi Group:


Yesterday, I got the notification to update to the new version of Jaws
and I do as I normally do. When it comes up, it will ask me if I want
to update it and I say yes and then it asks me if I want to let the
changes come on my hard drive and I say yes to that but for some reason,
nothing is happening. I have tried it three different ways. I go to
where it says yes and I hit Alt Y and wait a while and nothing seems to
happen and then I find it again and I hit either space and then enter
and nothing is happening. Any help will be greatly appreciated. What
should I be listening for so I know it's updating? I'm getting complete
silence.

Shelly





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