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Re: jaws license and sma

Monte Single
 

I have been using nvda for 10 years.

My way of making donations to nvda is to purchase their tutorials for such things as the program ms word, excel, ets.

These tutorials are in various text formats or mp3.

They cost about  22 u s dollars.

Narrator has really improved in win10.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: July 23, 2021 2:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma

 

John:

 

Narrator in Windows 10 has much improved, but never come close to JAWS.  Some say NVDA is very good, but I have never tried it.  It is a free program though, although, they do accept donations.


Re: jaws license and sma

Joe Orozco
 

How do you use frames to make an app more accessible with JAWS?--Joe

On 7/23/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Scripts.

Not frames.

You can do a hell of a lot with scripts.

Jaws is more customizable than NVDA or narrator.

That being said some screen readers work be better with some apps than
others.

John





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 6:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma



Are you talking about scripts or user customization such as using frames?
JAWS is more user definable for those without knowledge of programming
because of the ability to create frames. Frames can be very important for
making programs usable without having to have the delay and possible expense
of having someone script for that program.



NVDA uses scripts but the general user, as in JAWS, doesn’t directly work
with, change or develop them.



Each screen-reader has its advantages and does certain things better.NVDA
will meet a lot of users’ needs but there are times when it is faster and
more efficient to customize JAWS.



Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: John Holcomb II <mailto:jhii926@gmail.com>

Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 5:14 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma



JAWS has a lot more scripting capabilities that’s for sure Holly.

John





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> > On Behalf Of
Holly
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 4:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma



John:



Narrator in Windows 10 has much improved, but never come close to JAWS.
Some say NVDA is very good, but I have never tried it. It is a free program
though, although, they do accept donations.








--
Joe Orozco: Your Message, My Mission
https://joeorozco.com/services/


Re: jaws license and sma

John Holcomb II
 

Scripts.

Not frames.

You can  do a hell of a lot with scripts.

Jaws is more customizable than NVDA or narrator.

That being said some screen readers work be better with some apps than others.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 6:35 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma

 

Are you talking about scripts or user customization such as using frames?  JAWS is more user definable for those without knowledge of programming because of the ability to create frames.  Frames can be very important for making programs usable without having to have the delay and possible expense of having someone script for that program. 

 

NVDA uses scripts but the general user, as in JAWS, doesn’t directly work with, change or develop them. 

 

Each screen-reader has its advantages and does certain things better.NVDA will meet a lot of users’ needs but there are times when it is faster and more efficient to customize JAWS. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 5:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma

 

JAWS has a lot  more scripting capabilities that’s for sure Holly.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 4:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma

 

John:

 

Narrator in Windows 10 has much improved, but never come close to JAWS.  Some say NVDA is very good, but I have never tried it.  It is a free program though, although, they do accept donations.


Re: jaws license and sma

Gene
 

Are you talking about scripts or user customization such as using frames?  JAWS is more user definable for those without knowledge of programming because of the ability to create frames.  Frames can be very important for making programs usable without having to have the delay and possible expense of having someone script for that program. 
 
NVDA uses scripts but the general user, as in JAWS, doesn’t directly work with, change or develop them. 
 
Each screen-reader has its advantages and does certain things better.NVDA will meet a lot of users’ needs but there are times when it is faster and more efficient to customize JAWS. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma
 

JAWS has a lot  more scripting capabilities that’s for sure Holly.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 4:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma

 

John:

 

Narrator in Windows 10 has much improved, but never come close to JAWS.  Some say NVDA is very good, but I have never tried it.  It is a free program though, although, they do accept donations.


Re: Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

Carolyn Arnold
 

I have to enter a pass code on Zoom for our church. I have four different numbers and codes, according to what it is that I am calling.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Thom Spittle
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 2:58 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

If you are dialing in, you do not need a passcode.




On Jul 23, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:




I don’t know if a Zoom invitation can contain only a phone number. If you read it and you don’t see things clearly stated such as ID and then the code and then on another line password followed by the code, then it appears you don’t have such information.

Usually, before the information you are asking about, you get a link containing all the information you need. If you follow that link, your default browser will open and you can launch zoom from the page that opens and be taken to the meeting. You may do whichever you want, but that is a more convenient way, requiring less writing.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND <mailto:pamela.a.ekstrand.-nd@disney.com>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 1:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [TechTalk] Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting


All,



I am using JAWS 2021 and Outlook. I am trying to find the passcode for a Zoom meeting but do not see that on the meeting invite. I am dialing in by phone only, and not activating the Zoom link. Can anyone tell me if it is somewhere in the Outlook meeting invite that I am missing?



Thanks,

Pam


Re: jaws license and sma

John Holcomb II
 

JAWS has a lot  more scripting capabilities that’s for sure Holly.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 4:48 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma

 

John:

 

Narrator in Windows 10 has much improved, but never come close to JAWS.  Some say NVDA is very good, but I have never tried it.  It is a free program though, although, they do accept donations.


braille display email list questions

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I know there's the bdu list, but are there any other general lists for
discussing any/all braille displays? Even better are there any lists
specifically for users of Freedom Scientific's braille displays? Look forward to
any info anyone can provide me!!! Thanks Madison


Re: jaws license and sma

Holly
 

John:
 
Narrator in Windows 10 has much improved, but never come close to JAWS.  Some say NVDA is very good, but I have never tried it.  It is a free program though, although, they do accept donations.


Re: jaws license and sma

Gene
 

If you want to see about Narrator, why not try NVDA.  I don’t know how you use your computer and I don’t know how well NVDA would meet your needs but it meets a lot of users’ needs well. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma
 

Yeah I  use it as my Only for the most part, too.

I say for the most part as I need to upgrade to Windows 10 soon. I’d like to see what  narrator offers, but I’ll probably wind up going back to JAWS honestly. And I really really want that SSD too.

 

Yeah worth a phone call every year!

I half expect that $120 to be higher next year, which is why I did it to begin with.

If it is higher in price next year or even two years from now, then I won’t have to buy that year.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 2:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma

 

John:

 

Good for you!  Ya, figured that you couldn’t buy more than one SMA upgrade at a time.  Anyway, sounds like you are set for quite awhile.  Worth a phone call.

 

I also use JAWS as my primary, and only, screen reader.

 

Holly


Re: Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Unfortunately that is not always the case.  I think it depends on how the meeting is set up, and some meetings I join require one.

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thom Spittle via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 2:58 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

 

If you are dialing in, you do not need a passcode.



On Jul 23, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:



I don’t know if a Zoom invitation can contain only a phone number.  If you read it and you don’t see things clearly stated such as ID and then the code and then on another line password followed by the code, then it appears you don’t have such information.

 

Usually, before the information you are asking about, you get a link containing all the information you need.  If you follow that link, your default browser will open and you can launch zoom from the page that opens and be taken to the meeting.  You may do whichever you want, but that is a more convenient way, requiring less writing.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 1:38 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

 

All,

 

I am using JAWS 2021 and Outlook.  I am trying to find the passcode for a Zoom meeting but do not see that on the meeting invite.  I am dialing in by phone only, and not activating the Zoom link.  Can anyone tell me if it is somewhere in the Outlook meeting invite that I am missing?

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

 

 


Re: jaws license and sma

John Holcomb II
 

Yeah I  use it as my Only for the most part, too.

I say for the most part as I need to upgrade to Windows 10 soon. I’d like to see what  narrator offers, but I’ll probably wind up going back to JAWS honestly. And I really really want that SSD too.

 

Yeah worth a phone call every year!

I half expect that $120 to be higher next year, which is why I did it to begin with.

If it is higher in price next year or even two years from now, then I won’t have to buy that year.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 2:57 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma

 

John:

 

Good for you!  Ya, figured that you couldn’t buy more than one SMA upgrade at a time.  Anyway, sounds like you are set for quite awhile.  Worth a phone call.

 

I also use JAWS as my primary, and only, screen reader.

 

Holly


Re: Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

Thom Spittle
 

If you are dialing in, you do not need a passcode.


On Jul 23, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


I don’t know if a Zoom invitation can contain only a phone number.  If you read it and you don’t see things clearly stated such as ID and then the code and then on another line password followed by the code, then it appears you don’t have such information.
 
Usually, before the information you are asking about, you get a link containing all the information you need.  If you follow that link, your default browser will open and you can launch zoom from the page that opens and be taken to the meeting.  You may do whichever you want, but that is a more convenient way, requiring less writing.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 1:38 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting
 

All,

 

I am using JAWS 2021 and Outlook.  I am trying to find the passcode for a Zoom meeting but do not see that on the meeting invite.  I am dialing in by phone only, and not activating the Zoom link.  Can anyone tell me if it is somewhere in the Outlook meeting invite that I am missing?

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

 

 


Re: jaws license and sma

Holly
 

John:
 
Good for you!  Ya, figured that you couldn’t buy more than one SMA upgrade at a time.  Anyway, sounds like you are set for quite awhile.  Worth a phone call.
 
I also use JAWS as my primary, and only, screen reader.
 
Holly


Re: Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

Gene
 

I don’t know if a Zoom invitation can contain only a phone number.  If you read it and you don’t see things clearly stated such as ID and then the code and then on another line password followed by the code, then it appears you don’t have such information.
 
Usually, before the information you are asking about, you get a link containing all the information you need.  If you follow that link, your default browser will open and you can launch zoom from the page that opens and be taken to the meeting.  You may do whichever you want, but that is a more convenient way, requiring less writing.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 1:38 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting
 

All,

 

I am using JAWS 2021 and Outlook.  I am trying to find the passcode for a Zoom meeting but do not see that on the meeting invite.  I am dialing in by phone only, and not activating the Zoom link.  Can anyone tell me if it is somewhere in the Outlook meeting invite that I am missing?

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

 

 


Re: jaws license and sma

John Holcomb II
 

Holly,

So let me tell you my story.

I had an SMA thru 2023 already.

So if you went to FSActivate.com and put  in my serial number, it said I had an SMA thru 2023 and wouldn’t let me buy.

However, when I called them they gave me the $120 price.

This  only works for one SMA, I  asked  if I could buy 2 at that discount and the  answer is a nope.

I was told that FS does offer these prices n every year around this time, but was also told do not quote her on that.

TO me this m means for as long as she’s been working there, around the m full month of July, you can get that discounted SMA rate.

But this, like anything could change.

I also asked if there was a clause as  to what would happen if FS went out of business, would a user get their money back?

To which sails responded most likely that  won’t happen (I don’t think it’d happen either), but in affect she had no idea what would happen in that situation.

SO  now I’m upgraded to 2025.

The reason why I did it, is that I I’ve heard rumblings of SMA’s going up in price, and I want to get my money’s worth from this product since I use it every day for my  primary.

John

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 10:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws license and sma

 

John:

 

Let us know how it works out for you.  I have a feeling that they won’t let you do that, but I could be wrong.  LOL.


Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

All,

 

I am using JAWS 2021 and Outlook.  I am trying to find the passcode for a Zoom meeting but do not see that on the meeting invite.  I am dialing in by phone only, and not activating the Zoom link.  Can anyone tell me if it is somewhere in the Outlook meeting invite that I am missing?

 

Thanks,

Pam

 

 

 


Re: Jaws 2022

Gene
 

If you are going to send links to a free version of Eloquence, this is illegal and will not be permitted.  If you want to send information about IBM’s Via Voice, that will be allowed. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022
 

Hi Josh,

 

Please could you send me the links to the IBMpublicFTP and the Internet Archive website.

 

Thanks,

 

Bernard

 

On 23/07/2021 14:56, Josh Kennedy wrote:
I wonder if freedom scientific has to pay a license fee to someone in order to let everyone have and use Eloquence in jaws? If so its probably not much at all since the last time eloquence was updated was about 20 years ago. And there are also free versions of eloquence that are on the internet archive website and another free version of eloquence on IBM's public ftp site which supports more languages and features than the eloquence that comes with jaws. 


Re: Jaws 2022

Bernard Georgiou
 

Hi Josh,


Please could you send me the links to the IBMpublicFTP and the Internet Archive website.


Thanks,


Bernard


On 23/07/2021 14:56, Josh Kennedy wrote:
I wonder if freedom scientific has to pay a license fee to someone in order to let everyone have and use Eloquence in jaws? If so its probably not much at all since the last time eloquence was updated was about 20 years ago. And there are also free versions of eloquence that are on the internet archive website and another free version of eloquence on IBM's public ftp site which supports more languages and features than the eloquence that comes with jaws. 


Re: Jaws 2022

Gene
 

Are you talking about Eloquence or Via Voice on the IBM site?  It should be Via Voice, which is not the same program and is not owned by IBM.
 
I don’t know how much FS pays but I would think it would be a small amount compared to other expenses such as development.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022
 
I wonder if freedom scientific has to pay a license fee to someone in order to let everyone have and use Eloquence in jaws? If so its probably not much at all since the last time eloquence was updated was about 20 years ago. And there are also free versions of eloquence that are on the internet archive website and another free version of eloquence on IBM's public ftp site which supports more languages and features than the eloquence that comes with jaws. 


Re: Fire TV Extinguished

Steve Matzura
 

Been there, done that.

On 7/22/2021 11:59 PM, Wendy Walker wrote:
Could you possibly use be my eyes or the free five minutes Ira promotion to check your settings?

Wendy


On Jul 22, 2021, at 2:42 PM, Steve Matzura <number6@noisynotes.com> wrote:

Imagine my surprise when I clicked on the "Buy it again" button and was told the 43-inch model is unavailable. 32" is too small, 50" too big. It's 43 or bust, I'm afraid.


On 7/22/2021 3:29 PM, chris judge wrote:
I just checked amazon. In the Canadian store they have both the 50 inch and
the 32 inch Toshiba fire tv, so I'd be surprised if it's not available in
the American store.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: July 22, 2021 2:40 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fire TV Extinguished

Steve:

It seems strange that your Toshiba bit the dust after just three years.
Make sure something didn't get turned off by mistake.

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