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Re: Jaws 2022

Gene
 

JAWS comes with Eloquence.  You say you bought it;.  If you bought the SAPI 5 Eloquence and you want to use it instead, you may.  The discussion has nothing to do with JAWS no longer supporting Eloquence or SAPI 5. It continues to support both.

Gene

-----Original message-----
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2021 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022
 

Hi Group:

 

When I download Jaws 2022, does that mean I totally lose eloquence?  I bought it at one time and I was wondering if I can use that?  If not, where do I get the voices from?  Can I keep Jaws 2021 or will it get really outdated?  Sorry, I'm coming into this discussion late.

Shelly

On 7/25/2021 4:21 PM, Mohamed wrote:

Hi Gene, apart from the differences you described, there are also some slight differences in how a few words are pronounced, as it seems that IBM slightly changed the dialect the synthesizer uses. The most notable difference, however, is that in ViaVoice TTS 6.6 and newer, IBM fixed over 300 words, including given names, cities, and other such things that were pronounced incorrectly in Eloquence. The version found on IBM's FTP is version 6.7.3.2, which contains all of IBM's latest corrections.

On 7/24/2021 7:11 PM, Gene wrote:
They sound either the same or just about identical.  There are technical differences.  Eloquence doesn’t make any registry entries.  Via Voice makes at least one.  This may have implications about using Via Voice portably.  I don’t know what other technical differences may exist.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022
 

What’s the difference between via voice and eloquence? They both sound the same.

Seems to me IBM via voice and Code Factory eloquence is the same.

I’ve bought code factory b years ago but wonder fi I needed to do that?

I could just used IBM via voice instead.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 1:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022

 

Unless I get convincing evidence that the version of Eloquence being discussed is legal, I will lock the thread if the discussion continues.  I have no objection to Via Voice being discussed because I have seen convincing devidence that IBM has made it publicly available.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Tariq Ali

Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 11:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022

 

Hi there

I have just been following the thread

 

Is this eloquence compatible with any version of Jaws for example 2021?

Regards

Tariq



On 24 Jul 2021, at 3:45 pm, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

well seeing as how the internet archive only permits stuff on their site which is *"legal" no *"illegal" stuff is allowed on internet archive, at any rate I will just send links off list through private email.


Re: Audio Book Apps

chris judge
 

Hi. I have suspended my audible membership in the past and have not lost any of my titles. I’m assuming such is still the case.

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: July 26, 2021 5:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio Book Apps

 

Hi Group:

 

I'm currently using a book app as well.  This one you are talking about, is it an app for the phone or is it like a website?  Mine is an app on the phone and it's really nice.  I pay $10 per month and you can get more than you can on BARD.  I use both services.  After I'm done reading, I delete the book because I don't usually hang onto books that I have already read. 

While we are on this topic, I do have a question.  When you use  Audible or one of these audio book apps, what would happen if you cancelled your subscription for a few months and then you wanted to start it up again?  Can you do that or will everything be gone.  Thanks in advance.

Shelly

On 7/25/2021 7:37 AM, Sharon S wrote:

Hi, another source for audio books is all you can books:

 

http://www.allyoucanbooks.com/

 

This is also a service that you pay for monthly. I have been using it for a couple of months now. You can try it for 30 days free and you get to download as many books as you like. Once you download a book you can keep it even after you leave the service.

 

From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Sunday, 4 July 2021 5:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio Book Apps

 

Having an audible membership also entitles you to some really decent sales. I must have purchased 25 books last week during the two for one sale.

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: July 3, 2021 7:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio Book Apps

 

Hi, Monte, I only get one free book with my $15 payment to Audible. But if I want, I can buy others at a discounted price. I don't do this often, though. Instead, if I see a book I want, I add it to my wish list and buy it when my credit comes out, usually about the 20th of the month. I hope that answers your question.  
--


Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@...

 


Re: Jaws 2022

Shelly Kane
 

Hi Group:


When I download Jaws 2022, does that mean I totally lose eloquence?  I bought it at one time and I was wondering if I can use that?  If not, where do I get the voices from?  Can I keep Jaws 2021 or will it get really outdated?  Sorry, I'm coming into this discussion late.

Shelly

On 7/25/2021 4:21 PM, Mohamed wrote:

Hi Gene, apart from the differences you described, there are also some slight differences in how a few words are pronounced, as it seems that IBM slightly changed the dialect the synthesizer uses. The most notable difference, however, is that in ViaVoice TTS 6.6 and newer, IBM fixed over 300 words, including given names, cities, and other such things that were pronounced incorrectly in Eloquence. The version found on IBM's FTP is version 6.7.3.2, which contains all of IBM's latest corrections.

On 7/24/2021 7:11 PM, Gene wrote:
They sound either the same or just about identical.  There are technical differences.  Eloquence doesn’t make any registry entries.  Via Voice makes at least one.  This may have implications about using Via Voice portably.  I don’t know what other technical differences may exist.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022
 

What’s the difference between via voice and eloquence? They both sound the same.

Seems to me IBM via voice and Code Factory eloquence is the same.

I’ve bought code factory b years ago but wonder fi I needed to do that?

I could just used IBM via voice instead.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 1:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022

 

Unless I get convincing evidence that the version of Eloquence being discussed is legal, I will lock the thread if the discussion continues.  I have no objection to Via Voice being discussed because I have seen convincing devidence that IBM has made it publicly available.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Tariq Ali

Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 11:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022

 

Hi there

I have just been following the thread

 

Is this eloquence compatible with any version of Jaws for example 2021?

Regards

Tariq



On 24 Jul 2021, at 3:45 pm, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

well seeing as how the internet archive only permits stuff on their site which is *"legal" no *"illegal" stuff is allowed on internet archive, at any rate I will just send links off list through private email.


Re: Audio Book Apps

Mich Verrier
 

Hi Shelly I know with audible you can still lissen to the audio books you have stord in your lybary on audible even after you cansel your account. From mIch.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: July 26, 2021 4:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio Book Apps

 

Hi Group:

 

I'm currently using a book app as well.  This one you are talking about, is it an app for the phone or is it like a website?  Mine is an app on the phone and it's really nice.  I pay $10 per month and you can get more than you can on BARD.  I use both services.  After I'm done reading, I delete the book because I don't usually hang onto books that I have already read. 

While we are on this topic, I do have a question.  When you use  Audible or one of these audio book apps, what would happen if you cancelled your subscription for a few months and then you wanted to start it up again?  Can you do that or will everything be gone.  Thanks in advance.

Shelly

On 7/25/2021 7:37 AM, Sharon S wrote:

Hi, another source for audio books is all you can books:

 

http://www.allyoucanbooks.com/

 

This is also a service that you pay for monthly. I have been using it for a couple of months now. You can try it for 30 days free and you get to download as many books as you like. Once you download a book you can keep it even after you leave the service.

 

From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Sunday, 4 July 2021 5:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio Book Apps

 

Having an audible membership also entitles you to some really decent sales. I must have purchased 25 books last week during the two for one sale.

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: July 3, 2021 7:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio Book Apps

 

Hi, Monte, I only get one free book with my $15 payment to Audible. But if I want, I can buy others at a discounted price. I don't do this often, though. Instead, if I see a book I want, I add it to my wish list and buy it when my credit comes out, usually about the 20th of the month. I hope that answers your question.  
--


Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@...

 


Re: Audio Book Apps

Shelly Kane
 

Hi Group:


I'm currently using a book app as well.  This one you are talking about, is it an app for the phone or is it like a website?  Mine is an app on the phone and it's really nice.  I pay $10 per month and you can get more than you can on BARD.  I use both services.  After I'm done reading, I delete the book because I don't usually hang onto books that I have already read. 

While we are on this topic, I do have a question.  When you use  Audible or one of these audio book apps, what would happen if you cancelled your subscription for a few months and then you wanted to start it up again?  Can you do that or will everything be gone.  Thanks in advance.

Shelly

On 7/25/2021 7:37 AM, Sharon S wrote:

Hi, another source for audio books is all you can books:

 

http://www.allyoucanbooks.com/

 

This is also a service that you pay for monthly. I have been using it for a couple of months now. You can try it for 30 days free and you get to download as many books as you like. Once you download a book you can keep it even after you leave the service.

 

From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Sunday, 4 July 2021 5:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio Book Apps

 

Having an audible membership also entitles you to some really decent sales. I must have purchased 25 books last week during the two for one sale.

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: July 3, 2021 7:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio Book Apps

 

Hi, Monte, I only get one free book with my $15 payment to Audible. But if I want, I can buy others at a discounted price. I don't do this often, though. Instead, if I see a book I want, I add it to my wish list and buy it when my credit comes out, usually about the 20th of the month. I hope that answers your question.  
--


Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@...

 


Re: Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Pamela, I don't know how your company is setting up its Zoom meetings. That
said, the general norm for Zoom is for you to find the link you received,
click on it and the meeting should launch with the MEETING ID and RELEVANT
PASSCODE automatically entered for you.

Sometimes, if the link is rather long, there could be a spill over to the
next line. In that circumstance, copy the link to the Clipboard, launch
Notepad, WordPad or Word, use Ctrl-V to paste the link, carefully read
through it one character at a time, then delete the extra unneeded space.
Next, copy the new link to the Clipboard, launch your browser of choice, and
press Ctrl-L to open the address bar, then Ctrl-V to paste the Clipboard
content and whack <enter>. The Zoom meeting should launch with no qualms.

Perhaps the above is a rather long process: No problem; carefully read the
message received, look for the MEETING ID which can be a string of ten
numbers and write it down somewhere; then find the MEETING PASSCODE,
typically six digits long, and write that down somewhere as well. Next,
launch your preferred browser and type:

Zoom.us/join

Then click on the LAUNCH MEETING button, type in the MEETING ID, whack
<enter>; wait a moment, then type in the PASSCODE and you should be good to
go.

I hope I made sense thus far. If not, please YELL AT ME and I'll try again.
Have fun zooming!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

John Holcomb II said:

"I'm still confused. Shift+7?"

In Android world, if you turn on the Shift key and then press the Number7
key, that will give you the "AMPERSAND" sign.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

In My Shiny Android world, to insert a comma after typing a number, I would
PLACE MY FINGER on the "STAR (OR ASTERISK) SIGN" below the 7 button, wait a
few seconds and the inserted comma will be announced. I'll do this for
however many commas I wish to insert. Remember to always end with the
"POUND (OR HASH IN BRITISH ENGLISH) SIGN when you're done entering the
required string of numbers.

I don't even need to invoke the Symbol Keyboard to accomplish this.

Caveat: I have deployed the US-PC Keyboard emulation using GBoard.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

John Holcomb II
 

No I meant how about android in so far as how to do the pauses in the
numbers like you can in iOS?


Re: Finding Passcode for Zoom Meeting

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

John Holcomb II asked:

"How about android?"

Same process sir. If you have the Zoom app installed on your toy, you don't
even need to dial any phone numbers; just enter the MEETING ID and PASSCODES
in the relevant edit boxes and tap on the Join Button! Have fun and enjoy.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: strange issue between my screen readerandwindowsfolders

heather albright
 

Yes, I checked those settings in folder options.

Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 11:59 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen readerandwindowsfolders

 

Hi Heather,

 

It sounds like when you do something with a file from a folder you're possibly losing focus on the folder.  If you, Alt + tab, back to the folder will it close then?

 

Try looking at this setting and changing it if yours is different.

 

1. Press enter on the, This PC, icon on your desktop if you have the icon, or press, Windows key + E, to open File Explorer / This PC.

 

2. Press, Alt + F, then press the letter, O, to open folder options.  After pressing, Alt + F, you might have to tab a couple of times to, change folder and search options, and press enter.

 

3. You should now be on the, General tab, so tab once or twice to, Check browse folders, and there are 2 radio buttons here.  1 is, Open each folder in the same window,

and the other is, open each folder in its own window.  Choose the, Open each folder in the same window, radio button if it wasn't already selected.

 

4. Tab, to Okay, press enter and Alt + F4 to close File Explorer / This PC.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 9:16 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader andwindowsfolders

 

Yes, it sometimes happens with NVDA too but not as often as it does when I am running jaws 2021. Like now, I was trying to close a folder off my external drive and it would not close the folder till I turned off jaws. Than it closes the folder. This morning I was using NVDA in my downloads folder so I copied the item I needed to the clipboard and wanted to close the folder so I did not have to many windows open as I was transferring the item to another external drive. It was having issues for closing the downloads folder till I turn off NVDA and I finally was able to close the folder.

I cleaned my pc just in case, I had to much off the drive that it was affecting how the pc was running and sometimes if your processor is bogged down, it can be slow.

It took off 8GB   of stuff from the extra left over files I did not need. It was a slite improvement. But it did not fix this issue.

I did a disk check up to see if anything was wrong with the c drive and it came back as healthy.

I always check if my pc is trying to download updates, sometimes that can make the pc slow to perform a task and it said I was up to date. The only thing I could think of doing if this continues and it becomes annoying is to refresh windows with a knew copy.

It may sound drastic but, when all else fails to fix an issue that maybe the only solution.

Thanks Heather

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 10:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader andwindowsfolders

 

But she said she’s not just having this problem with JAWS. So its not a JAWS issue either.

I thought she had said its with other screen readers too.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 10:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader and windowsfolders

 

To save you time in future, checking memory anhd deleting files is almost certain not to solve the problem.  Also, when you delete all the things you did, have you made impossible to remove the update?  Windows can remove updates but I would think only if it had the previous configuration backed up.  Since removing all these things is almost certain not to solve the problem and may interfere with removing the update for this reason or others you may not know yet, I don’t think you should do it unless you  can’t solve the problem in other far more likely ways and even then, I really doubt it would help.  Since the problem is the result of a Windows update, the by far most likely cause is something in the update.

 

Perhaps contacting technical support for JAWS might get you more information.  If this problem is affecting enough other people, they may already know about it.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 8:46 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader and windowsfolders

 

I usually use alt-f4. Sometimes, I use the arrow keys if I am needing to go back to another folder within the main folder. But, more often it is alt-f4. Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 8:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader and windowsfolders

 

Hi Heather,

 

What method are you using to close the folders?  Are you using, Alt + left arrow, the Backspace key, or Alt + F4?  I'm asking so I can experiment with a couple of settings that might be a possible culprit.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 10:04 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader and windows folders

 

Hay, I have been having this issue after the latest update of windows but, do not know if it is a windows issue or a screen reader issue.

So lets say I open my documents folder or any other folder  off my windows10 pc and I try to close that folder after I am finish with it. I try to not just have folders open all the time so I close them regularly.

The folders will not close at all until I quit the jaws screen reader or NVDA screen reader. But, it mainly happens with jaws 2021.

It will allow me to close the folder after I quit the screen reader just like it should when I had the screen reader on.

I thought I just needed to restart the pc but, that did not fix the weird perplexing issue. I checked to see if the memory was an issue and I am still flying along. I cleaned my pc of all the extra junk from windows updates and temp files, issue still happens.

So any ideas? It just started happening  after the latest windows update. This is my current windows version:

“Version 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1110)”

Jaws

“Professional Edition

Version 2021.2102.34.”

MVDA version: “Version: 2020.4.”

I just do not know if it is a windows issue or a screen reader issue. Should I e-mail everyone? Has anyone had these issues?

Thank you all.

Heather

 

 

 

 


Re: need cd help

Gene
 

The data-bases are primarily for music.  I don’t know if any audio books are in them but that isn’t their primary purpose.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] need cd help
 
Sharon, why wouldn’t the books get named?  Pam.
 
From: Sharon S
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] need cd help
 

Hi, I have the same problem when using Windows Media Player to copy discs. However, I am mainly copying audio books so I can understand why they don’t get named.

 

From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, 3 July 2021 9:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] need cd help

 

I’ve seen messages on a list recently from someone who said CDEX no longer names tracks while ripping them because the data base it used is no longer online.  My recollection from when I briefly used CDEx years ago, is that at that time, you could choose from two data-bases.  What is the situation today regarding CDEX naming tracks?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Friday, July 02, 2021 6:11 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] need cd help

 

I did not know they still have CDex. I do not think I saw it off www.ninite.com They still have old cdx?

Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 6:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] need cd help

 

CDex, not codec.

Oy.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2021 2:27 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] need cd help

 

Hello, I have more cds that I want to put on my pc as mp3s. However, I have not done this for a long time, long time. The last program I used was easy cd creator, I think like 4 or 5 version back in 2010 or 2011.I think it was a paid program and does not work with windows10.

So I did not like the windows utility to burn cds in to mp3s. Is there another program that one can suggest. I find the windows version turns it in to tracks, not mp3 files. Maybe I did not use the utility program that comes with 10 right. Thanks Heather

 

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Re: need cd help

Pamela Dominguez
 

Sharon, why wouldn’t the books get named?  Pam.
 

From: Sharon S
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] need cd help
 

Hi, I have the same problem when using Windows Media Player to copy discs. However, I am mainly copying audio books so I can understand why they don’t get named.

 

From Shaz.

Canberra, Australia.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, 3 July 2021 9:48 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] need cd help

 

I’ve seen messages on a list recently from someone who said CDEX no longer names tracks while ripping them because the data base it used is no longer online.  My recollection from when I briefly used CDEx years ago, is that at that time, you could choose from two data-bases.  What is the situation today regarding CDEX naming tracks?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Friday, July 02, 2021 6:11 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] need cd help

 

I did not know they still have CDex. I do not think I saw it off www.ninite.com They still have old cdx?

Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 6:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] need cd help

 

CDex, not codec.

Oy.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of heather albright
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2021 2:27 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] need cd help

 

Hello, I have more cds that I want to put on my pc as mp3s. However, I have not done this for a long time, long time. The last program I used was easy cd creator, I think like 4 or 5 version back in 2010 or 2011.I think it was a paid program and does not work with windows10.

So I did not like the windows utility to burn cds in to mp3s. Is there another program that one can suggest. I find the windows version turns it in to tracks, not mp3 files. Maybe I did not use the utility program that comes with 10 right. Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


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Re: Jaws 2022

Mohamed
 

As far as I can tell, the last notable ViaVoice updates were made somewhere around late 2003, about a year after Eloquence's development ended on PCs.

On 7/25/2021 6:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Do you know when the last updates were made?  My impression is that IBM is more willing to make certain things publicly available to forward accessibility than many companies are.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mohamed
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022
 

Hi Gene, apart from the differences you described, there are also some slight differences in how a few words are pronounced, as it seems that IBM slightly changed the dialect the synthesizer uses. The most notable difference, however, is that in ViaVoice TTS 6.6 and newer, IBM fixed over 300 words, including given names, cities, and other such things that were pronounced incorrectly in Eloquence. The version found on IBM's FTP is version 6.7.3.2, which contains all of IBM's latest corrections.

On 7/24/2021 7:11 PM, Gene wrote:
They sound either the same or just about identical.  There are technical differences.  Eloquence doesn’t make any registry entries.  Via Voice makes at least one.  This may have implications about using Via Voice portably.  I don’t know what other technical differences may exist.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022
 

What’s the difference between via voice and eloquence? They both sound the same.

Seems to me IBM via voice and Code Factory eloquence is the same.

I’ve bought code factory b years ago but wonder fi I needed to do that?

I could just used IBM via voice instead.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 1:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022

 

Unless I get convincing evidence that the version of Eloquence being discussed is legal, I will lock the thread if the discussion continues.  I have no objection to Via Voice being discussed because I have seen convincing devidence that IBM has made it publicly available.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Tariq Ali

Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 11:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022

 

Hi there

I have just been following the thread

 

Is this eloquence compatible with any version of Jaws for example 2021?

Regards

Tariq



On 24 Jul 2021, at 3:45 pm, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

well seeing as how the internet archive only permits stuff on their site which is *"legal" no *"illegal" stuff is allowed on internet archive, at any rate I will just send links off list through private email.


Re: Jaws 2022

Gene
 

Do you know when the last updates were made?  My impression is that IBM is more willing to make certain things publicly available to forward accessibility than many companies are.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Mohamed
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022
 

Hi Gene, apart from the differences you described, there are also some slight differences in how a few words are pronounced, as it seems that IBM slightly changed the dialect the synthesizer uses. The most notable difference, however, is that in ViaVoice TTS 6.6 and newer, IBM fixed over 300 words, including given names, cities, and other such things that were pronounced incorrectly in Eloquence. The version found on IBM's FTP is version 6.7.3.2, which contains all of IBM's latest corrections.

On 7/24/2021 7:11 PM, Gene wrote:
They sound either the same or just about identical.  There are technical differences.  Eloquence doesn’t make any registry entries.  Via Voice makes at least one.  This may have implications about using Via Voice portably.  I don’t know what other technical differences may exist.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022
 

What’s the difference between via voice and eloquence? They both sound the same.

Seems to me IBM via voice and Code Factory eloquence is the same.

I’ve bought code factory b years ago but wonder fi I needed to do that?

I could just used IBM via voice instead.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 1:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022

 

Unless I get convincing evidence that the version of Eloquence being discussed is legal, I will lock the thread if the discussion continues.  I have no objection to Via Voice being discussed because I have seen convincing devidence that IBM has made it publicly available.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Tariq Ali

Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 11:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022

 

Hi there

I have just been following the thread

 

Is this eloquence compatible with any version of Jaws for example 2021?

Regards

Tariq



On 24 Jul 2021, at 3:45 pm, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

well seeing as how the internet archive only permits stuff on their site which is *"legal" no *"illegal" stuff is allowed on internet archive, at any rate I will just send links off list through private email.


Re: Jaws 2022

Mohamed
 

Hi Gene, apart from the differences you described, there are also some slight differences in how a few words are pronounced, as it seems that IBM slightly changed the dialect the synthesizer uses. The most notable difference, however, is that in ViaVoice TTS 6.6 and newer, IBM fixed over 300 words, including given names, cities, and other such things that were pronounced incorrectly in Eloquence. The version found on IBM's FTP is version 6.7.3.2, which contains all of IBM's latest corrections.

On 7/24/2021 7:11 PM, Gene wrote:
They sound either the same or just about identical.  There are technical differences.  Eloquence doesn’t make any registry entries.  Via Voice makes at least one.  This may have implications about using Via Voice portably.  I don’t know what other technical differences may exist.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022
 

What’s the difference between via voice and eloquence? They both sound the same.

Seems to me IBM via voice and Code Factory eloquence is the same.

I’ve bought code factory b years ago but wonder fi I needed to do that?

I could just used IBM via voice instead.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 1:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022

 

Unless I get convincing evidence that the version of Eloquence being discussed is legal, I will lock the thread if the discussion continues.  I have no objection to Via Voice being discussed because I have seen convincing devidence that IBM has made it publicly available.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Tariq Ali

Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 11:35 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Jaws 2022

 

Hi there

I have just been following the thread

 

Is this eloquence compatible with any version of Jaws for example 2021?

Regards

Tariq



On 24 Jul 2021, at 3:45 pm, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

well seeing as how the internet archive only permits stuff on their site which is *"legal" no *"illegal" stuff is allowed on internet archive, at any rate I will just send links off list through private email.


Re: strange issue between my screen reader and windowsfolders

Gene
 

That may be, but as I recall, she said that when no screen-reader is running, she can close the folder.  We don’t know what is causing the problem but it evidently has to do with the Windows update, since the problem started after that.
 
Gene
-----original Message-----

Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader and windowsfolders
 

But she said she’s not just having this problem with JAWS. So its not a JAWS issue either.

I thought she had said its with other screen readers too.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 10:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader and windowsfolders

 

To save you time in future, checking memory anhd deleting files is almost certain not to solve the problem.  Also, when you delete all the things you did, have you made impossible to remove the update?  Windows can remove updates but I would think only if it had the previous configuration backed up.  Since removing all these things is almost certain not to solve the problem and may interfere with removing the update for this reason or others you may not know yet, I don’t think you should do it unless you  can’t solve the problem in other far more likely ways and even then, I really doubt it would help.  Since the problem is the result of a Windows update, the by far most likely cause is something in the update.

 

Perhaps contacting technical support for JAWS might get you more information.  If this problem is affecting enough other people, they may already know about it.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 8:46 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader and windowsfolders

 

I usually use alt-f4. Sometimes, I use the arrow keys if I am needing to go back to another folder within the main folder. But, more often it is alt-f4. Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 8:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader and windowsfolders

 

Hi Heather,

 

What method are you using to close the folders?  Are you using, Alt + left arrow, the Backspace key, or Alt + F4?  I'm asking so I can experiment with a couple of settings that might be a possible culprit.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 10:04 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader and windows folders

 

Hay, I have been having this issue after the latest update of windows but, do not know if it is a windows issue or a screen reader issue.

So lets say I open my documents folder or any other folder  off my windows10 pc and I try to close that folder after I am finish with it. I try to not just have folders open all the time so I close them regularly.

The folders will not close at all until I quit the jaws screen reader or NVDA screen reader. But, it mainly happens with jaws 2021.

It will allow me to close the folder after I quit the screen reader just like it should when I had the screen reader on.

I thought I just needed to restart the pc but, that did not fix the weird perplexing issue. I checked to see if the memory was an issue and I am still flying along. I cleaned my pc of all the extra junk from windows updates and temp files, issue still happens.

So any ideas? It just started happening  after the latest windows update. This is my current windows version:

“Version 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1110)”

Jaws

“Professional Edition

Version 2021.2102.34.”

MVDA version: “Version: 2020.4.”

I just do not know if it is a windows issue or a screen reader issue. Should I e-mail everyone? Has anyone had these issues?

Thank you all.

Heather

 

 


Re: strange issue between my screen reader andwindowsfolders

Mike B.
 


Hi Heather,
 
It sounds like when you do something with a file from a folder you're possibly losing focus on the folder.  If you, Alt + tab, back to the folder will it close then?
 
Try looking at this setting and changing it if yours is different.
 
1. Press enter on the, This PC, icon on your desktop if you have the icon, or press, Windows key + E, to open File Explorer / This PC.
 
2. Press, Alt + F, then press the letter, O, to open folder options.  After pressing, Alt + F, you might have to tab a couple of times to, change folder and search options, and press enter.
 
3. You should now be on the, General tab, so tab once or twice to, Check browse folders, and there are 2 radio buttons here.  1 is, Open each folder in the same window,
and the other is, open each folder in its own window.  Choose the, Open each folder in the same window, radio button if it wasn't already selected.
 
4. Tab, to Okay, press enter and Alt + F4 to close File Explorer / This PC.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader andwindowsfolders

Yes, it sometimes happens with NVDA too but not as often as it does when I am running jaws 2021. Like now, I was trying to close a folder off my external drive and it would not close the folder till I turned off jaws. Than it closes the folder. This morning I was using NVDA in my downloads folder so I copied the item I needed to the clipboard and wanted to close the folder so I did not have to many windows open as I was transferring the item to another external drive. It was having issues for closing the downloads folder till I turn off NVDA and I finally was able to close the folder.

I cleaned my pc just in case, I had to much off the drive that it was affecting how the pc was running and sometimes if your processor is bogged down, it can be slow.

It took off 8GB   of stuff from the extra left over files I did not need. It was a slite improvement. But it did not fix this issue.

I did a disk check up to see if anything was wrong with the c drive and it came back as healthy.

I always check if my pc is trying to download updates, sometimes that can make the pc slow to perform a task and it said I was up to date. The only thing I could think of doing if this continues and it becomes annoying is to refresh windows with a knew copy.

It may sound drastic but, when all else fails to fix an issue that maybe the only solution.

Thanks Heather

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 10:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader andwindowsfolders

 

But she said she’s not just having this problem with JAWS. So its not a JAWS issue either.

I thought she had said its with other screen readers too.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 10:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader and windowsfolders

 

To save you time in future, checking memory anhd deleting files is almost certain not to solve the problem.  Also, when you delete all the things you did, have you made impossible to remove the update?  Windows can remove updates but I would think only if it had the previous configuration backed up.  Since removing all these things is almost certain not to solve the problem and may interfere with removing the update for this reason or others you may not know yet, I don’t think you should do it unless you  can’t solve the problem in other far more likely ways and even then, I really doubt it would help.  Since the problem is the result of a Windows update, the by far most likely cause is something in the update.

 

Perhaps contacting technical support for JAWS might get you more information.  If this problem is affecting enough other people, they may already know about it.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 8:46 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader and windowsfolders

 

I usually use alt-f4. Sometimes, I use the arrow keys if I am needing to go back to another folder within the main folder. But, more often it is alt-f4. Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 8:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader and windowsfolders

 

Hi Heather,

 

What method are you using to close the folders?  Are you using, Alt + left arrow, the Backspace key, or Alt + F4?  I'm asking so I can experiment with a couple of settings that might be a possible culprit.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 10:04 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader and windows folders

 

Hay, I have been having this issue after the latest update of windows but, do not know if it is a windows issue or a screen reader issue.

So lets say I open my documents folder or any other folder  off my windows10 pc and I try to close that folder after I am finish with it. I try to not just have folders open all the time so I close them regularly.

The folders will not close at all until I quit the jaws screen reader or NVDA screen reader. But, it mainly happens with jaws 2021.

It will allow me to close the folder after I quit the screen reader just like it should when I had the screen reader on.

I thought I just needed to restart the pc but, that did not fix the weird perplexing issue. I checked to see if the memory was an issue and I am still flying along. I cleaned my pc of all the extra junk from windows updates and temp files, issue still happens.

So any ideas? It just started happening  after the latest windows update. This is my current windows version:

“Version 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1110)”

Jaws

“Professional Edition

Version 2021.2102.34.”

MVDA version: “Version: 2020.4.”

I just do not know if it is a windows issue or a screen reader issue. Should I e-mail everyone? Has anyone had these issues?

Thank you all.

Heather

 

 

 


PowerToys (for what it's worth)

Howard Traxler
 

Hi all,
I got this thing called PowerToys.  I think it came from microsoft. Looked like it would solve all my problems; but it really messed up my NVDA.  So I took it out and now things are fine.

I also have something called ASMWsoft PC Optimizer.  Don't know why I put that on there or what it's supposed to do; but it seems to do nothing.  I tried to remove it in the normal way; but it wouldn't uninstall.  It didn't like my screen definition.

Speaking of screen definition, when I go to my bank, it complains about wanting a larger screen.  But, at least, it lets me in.

Howard


Re: strange issue between my screen reader andwindowsfolders

heather albright
 

Yes, it sometimes happens with NVDA too but not as often as it does when I am running jaws 2021. Like now, I was trying to close a folder off my external drive and it would not close the folder till I turned off jaws. Than it closes the folder. This morning I was using NVDA in my downloads folder so I copied the item I needed to the clipboard and wanted to close the folder so I did not have to many windows open as I was transferring the item to another external drive. It was having issues for closing the downloads folder till I turn off NVDA and I finally was able to close the folder.

I cleaned my pc just in case, I had to much off the drive that it was affecting how the pc was running and sometimes if your processor is bogged down, it can be slow.

It took off 8GB   of stuff from the extra left over files I did not need. It was a slite improvement. But it did not fix this issue.

I did a disk check up to see if anything was wrong with the c drive and it came back as healthy.

I always check if my pc is trying to download updates, sometimes that can make the pc slow to perform a task and it said I was up to date. The only thing I could think of doing if this continues and it becomes annoying is to refresh windows with a knew copy.

It may sound drastic but, when all else fails to fix an issue that maybe the only solution.

Thanks Heather

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 10:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader andwindowsfolders

 

But she said she’s not just having this problem with JAWS. So its not a JAWS issue either.

I thought she had said its with other screen readers too.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 10:15 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader and windowsfolders

 

To save you time in future, checking memory anhd deleting files is almost certain not to solve the problem.  Also, when you delete all the things you did, have you made impossible to remove the update?  Windows can remove updates but I would think only if it had the previous configuration backed up.  Since removing all these things is almost certain not to solve the problem and may interfere with removing the update for this reason or others you may not know yet, I don’t think you should do it unless you  can’t solve the problem in other far more likely ways and even then, I really doubt it would help.  Since the problem is the result of a Windows update, the by far most likely cause is something in the update.

 

Perhaps contacting technical support for JAWS might get you more information.  If this problem is affecting enough other people, they may already know about it.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 8:46 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader and windowsfolders

 

I usually use alt-f4. Sometimes, I use the arrow keys if I am needing to go back to another folder within the main folder. But, more often it is alt-f4. Thanks Heather

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2021 8:26 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader and windowsfolders

 

Hi Heather,

 

What method are you using to close the folders?  Are you using, Alt + left arrow, the Backspace key, or Alt + F4?  I'm asking so I can experiment with a couple of settings that might be a possible culprit.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2021 10:04 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] strange issue between my screen reader and windows folders

 

Hay, I have been having this issue after the latest update of windows but, do not know if it is a windows issue or a screen reader issue.

So lets say I open my documents folder or any other folder  off my windows10 pc and I try to close that folder after I am finish with it. I try to not just have folders open all the time so I close them regularly.

The folders will not close at all until I quit the jaws screen reader or NVDA screen reader. But, it mainly happens with jaws 2021.

It will allow me to close the folder after I quit the screen reader just like it should when I had the screen reader on.

I thought I just needed to restart the pc but, that did not fix the weird perplexing issue. I checked to see if the memory was an issue and I am still flying along. I cleaned my pc of all the extra junk from windows updates and temp files, issue still happens.

So any ideas? It just started happening  after the latest windows update. This is my current windows version:

“Version 21H1 (OS Build 19043.1110)”

Jaws

“Professional Edition

Version 2021.2102.34.”

MVDA version: “Version: 2020.4.”

I just do not know if it is a windows issue or a screen reader issue. Should I e-mail everyone? Has anyone had these issues?

Thank you all.

Heather

 

 

 

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