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Re: Email Question

Shelly Kane
 

John:


As I have said before, I'm not very tech savvy.  When I first got my computer over 20 years ago, I did have help setting up my email.  I have gotten several computers since and still have had someone who is sighted help me.  Yes, I know my user name and password.

On 8/3/2021 9:03 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:
Yeah Shelly.
Have you ever set up your own email account before on a device on your own?
Or have you have helped with this.
Do you know your password for your email address?
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 4:40 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Email Question

John:


So if I switch to iMap, everything will be the same with a Pop3? When I switch, do I go to settings? I have never done this before. Thanks in advance.

Shelly

On 7/31/2021 9:06 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:
Hey Shelly
Then y if you decide to go with imap, everything will be easy!
That's exactly what it does by default.
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 5:31 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Email Question

John:


Thanks for getting back to me. I think I told you that I hit Control Enter to send a message and to begin a message, I hit Control N. As to the folders, I like all of my mail to go into the in box. When I delete a message, I have it go into the trash folder and then when there is a lot, I delete them totally from that folder and they come off the computer. I don't like to plug my computer up with messages. I also have a sent folder that the message I send fall into. When I start a message and can't finish it, it goes to the drafts folder and then I can go back to it after I save it. That's all of the folders I want.

Shelly

On 7/30/2021 4:10 PM, John Holcomb II wrote:
Hey Shelly,
Like ok right now.
Do you have rules set up so that certain mail go into certain folders?

The keystrokes to send a message will remain the same no matter which protocol you use, pop3 or imap.
Because you see, the keystroke you use to send the message is one that is built into the program.
Does that make sense ?
Once you answer the question about folders, I can direct you further.
Glad to help in any way that I can!
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 8:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Email Question

John:


No, no one explained iMap the way you just did. I'm not tech savvy
at all so I'm lucky that I can do the things I can. The question I
have is when I set up iMap, will it look my folders in Thunderbird
that I have set up now? When I open the program, I download my mail
and then I hit
F6 to see a list of my folders and I hit tab and then it says filter messages and then I can do my business and go down the list of messages. Does iMap work like that or is it more involved? My niece is sighted and usually helps me with these things. I would eventually want my mail to come off the server so it doesn't clog my devices. When I send a message, I hit Control Enter and then when I'm done, I hit Control S to send. Does this work the same way for iMap? Sorry that I have so many questions. I just need to know that things work the same way so I don't have to start all over again. If you could tell me how to set it up step by step, I could definitely do it. Thanks in advance.

Shelly

On 7/30/2021 6:15 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:
Hey Shelly.
I’m not here to decide what is best for you but let me explain something to you.
If you use iMap then whatever happens server side will apply to every device you use at the same time.
Let’s say you get a message on your thunderbird and open it and read it .
Once you go to your phone, the same message will be there and it’ll be marked as read.
Let’s say you open a message on your phone, read it , then reply to it.
Your message will be marked as replied, you’re reply be put into a sent folder.
Let’s say you then go to your PC. You’ll see the same message, but it’ll be marked as replied, and you’ll see it in the sent folder, just as you would on your phone.

This applies to anything you do using email.
Deleting messages, forwarding messages, creating folders, literally anything.
See the advantage of iMap is that it doesn’t matter what device you do what on.
I used to use Pop3 some while back, but see this is exactly why IMAP exists.
For this very reason. For people who have and use multiple devices.
this way you don’t have to worry about what you open where and when.
This way you don’t have to think, hmm. Did I open the mail on my PC, is it on my phone? Where is it?
Where is the reply?:
It also just makes managing mail a lot easier.
IMAP is made for multiple device/web access.

No mattter if you do these things on your thunderbird, or your phone, or the web interface, the server will keep track of everything that is done and it’ll be mirrored across devices. I did read the thread, but not sure if anyone explains in greater detail the advantages of imap.
In case they didn’t, that’s why i wrote you here.
I’d personally a advise you switch to iMap with your mails. It’ll make life a lot easier for you, in my opinion.

Take care,
John


Sent from my iPod

On Jul 30, 2021, at 2:57 AM, Shelly Kane <shellykane323@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you so much for explaining this to me. I use a pop3 account and have for years. Now at least I understand what's going on. I wouldn't use my phone that much for email. I was just looking into it. If I don't download my mail right away onto Thunderbird, I can see it on the web or my phone. I have no idea how to use IMap so I would rather stick with the pop3 which I know. Thanks so much for your help.

Shelly

On 7/29/2021 7:51 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi There,

You must have your mail account set to imap for this to woork properly. Imap will automatically leave a copy on the server of all received mail. With pop3, all e-mail is downloaded just one time and nothing is left on the server.
I forget what mail account you have, so i can't help any more than that.

On 7/29/2021 4:28 AM, Shelly Kane wrote:
Hi Group:


I have a complicated question about my email and hope someone can answer this. I tried putting my email account on my phone last night so I can start looking at it and not get on the computer all the time. So after I got it all set up, it worked great. The mail downloaded just fine and I wanted to make sure it still worked in Thunderbird because I use the computer more. It downloaded in Thunderbird just fine but here's the problem. When I went back on the phone to see if the mail was in both places, Thunderbird blocked it. My phone had no email on there. It was wiped clean. This happens also when I download mail into Thunderbird and I go to my gmail account on the web you can't see the mail on google either if it's already in Thunderbird. Do any of you know why this keeps happening and is there anything simple I can do about it? Thanks in advance for any help.

Shelly





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Re: Audio recording

Curtis Delzer
 

stick with sound forge, has overall the best keyboard support and with Jim's scripts it is nice enough to play as you wish it too. I have SF14, and was never offered to update to SF15 for anything like $35, you lucky duck. :)

On 8/3/2021 2:34 PM, John Holcomb II wrote:
Sound Forge Studio 10 won’t work under Windows 10, so I’ve found.
I’ve got an upgrade to Studio 15 $35, and  can get the new JAWS  scripts from Jim Snowbarjer.
But before I do this, what other solutions do people use for recording audio?
I need to be able to record, normalize, save to *.flac, be able to cut audio and loop playback. I record from an external sound card.
Fade options are a must too.
I know some have used GoldWave but do not believe scripts are being updated for it anymore.
Man I am glad I don’t have Windows 10 on my primary computer yet!
I’ve had to get sited help to install sound card drivers for my Creative card which also doesn’t work on Windows 10 natively without drivers from the company, like Windows  7 did.
I’m going to be upgrading to Windows 10 soon on my main box since Jaws 2022 won’t support 7. So I wanna make sure I got all of my ducks in a row.
I was told my GeForce 210 video card will work, now I gotta get the audio stuff working.
Thanks,
John
Thanks,
John
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This week on eyes On Success: Making Astronomy Accessible

blueskies11
 

This week’s episode of eyes On Success is:

2132 Making Astronomy Accessible (Aug. 4, 2021)
Show Notes
Astronomy is generally thought to be a very visually oriented field, but with some thought, it can be made accessible to those who are blind. Hosts Nancy and Peter Torpey talk with Noreen Grice, founder and president of You Can Do Astronomy, about how she makes astronomical concepts and features engaging for those who can’t see.

 

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Surge On USB Port Causes Ports To Be Shut Down

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

I am using an older 4 port USB hub to add USB capability to one of my computers. Recently, I am getting this message from Windows to the effect that there has been a surge on a USB port and that it has been shut down. The message continues by saying that the hub requires too much power that is not available.  When this occurs, I lose access to the devices connected to the hub.  When I restart the system, the hub works for a while and then the issue reoccurs.

This has only started recently. I have been using the hub for years on my various systems.  The systems are running Windows 10 with stable current updates.

What could be causing this and how can it be remedied?  Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: Audio recording

John Holcomb II
 

AH ok, I went to the main page and saw how to email from there.

Still though that part of the site does need to be fixed.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 10:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording
Importance: High

 

don't know about the scripts issue, as haven't had that here.

I assume you found the "record" option in the menus? if not, it's in the "extras" menu.

once you are in that, have set your file name, format, and all that, press the alt key for the menu, and one will come up called "record"

in there, you should find 4 options,

"start",

"pause",

"stop",

and "new file".

hope that helps.

 

Simon

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2021 2:45 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

 

Hey there,

So I downloaded the arthax program, and every  time it asks if I want to install the scripts, I say yes. And it says  error cant’ install scripts and closes.

I also checked the website and the articles section, and there is nothing on how to record with the program.

Can you give me some pointers please?

I’ve got it set to Flac and max compression but dunno what to do from here.

Thanks,

John

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: goshawk on horseback
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 7:09 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

 

for the recording, I would say give arthax a go. I am using it with win7,

but as it is a fairly new program, don't see why it wouldn't work with

win10.

it has a super useful audio monitoring feature, which is great if one needs

to set levels, eq, and things, and it can do wav, mp3, or flac recordings.

have been using it to remaster a lot of tapes over the covid imprisonment

regime.

 

I tend to use wavepad for any editing work.

 

hope this helps.

 

Simon

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "John Holcomb II" <jhii926@...>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 11:27 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

 

 

I only need simple stereo recording, and do not need  a multi-track

solution.

I'm only recording off an FM tuner.

John

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jujube

Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 5:42 PM

To: main@techtalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

 

[Edited Message Follows]

 

For audio recording I highly recommend Audacity and/or Reaper. Both are

accessible with either JAWS or NVDA. For Reaper you must download an

extension called OSARA in order to use it with screen readers though.

 

Recording in Audacity is easier and involves less steps, it is also great

for basic editing and splicing of recordings and it should work with loop

playback. However, if you're doing more extensive work with effects and need

better, non destructive fading and stuff, Reaper is better. If anything, I

recommend having both on your system because you may find both useful for

different things. Audacity is totally free and open source while Reaper has

an indefinite full featured trial period so you could use it for free

forever, however you should pay the $60 license if you can.

 

By the way, Audacity and Reaper are some of the most popular and mainstream

audio editing and mixing apps in the sighted world too :)

 

On 8/3/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@...> wrote:

> Sound Forge Studio 10 won't work under Windows 10, so I've found.

> I've got an upgrade to Studio 15 $35, and  can get the new JAWS

> scripts from Jim Snowbarjer.

> But before I do this, what other solutions do people use for recording

> audio?

> I need to be able to record, normalize, save to *.flac, be able to cut

> audio and loop playback. I record from an external sound card.

> Fade options are a must too.

> I know some have used GoldWave but do not believe scripts are being

> updated for it anymore.

> Man I am glad I don't have Windows 10 on my primary computer yet!

> I've had to get sited help to install sound card drivers for my

> Creative card which also doesn't work on Windows 10 natively without

> drivers from the company, like Windows  7 did.

> I'm going to be upgrading to Windows 10 soon on my main box since Jaws

> 2022 won't support 7. So I wanna make sure I got all of my ducks in a row.

> I was told my GeForce 210 video card will work, now I gotta get the

> audio stuff working.

> Thanks,

> John

> Thanks,

> John

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Audio recording

John Holcomb II
 

Hey, thanks!  I’ll try it sometime tomorrow. I’d like to get the jaws scripts working. The website:

Arthax - formally known as MaPlEr (mar-dy.com)

 

Says see our contact info below for phone or email but there is nothing there  and no way to contact them.

John

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 10:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording
Importance: High

 

don't know about the scripts issue, as haven't had that here.

I assume you found the "record" option in the menus? if not, it's in the "extras" menu.

once you are in that, have set your file name, format, and all that, press the alt key for the menu, and one will come up called "record"

in there, you should find 4 options,

"start",

"pause",

"stop",

and "new file".

hope that helps.

 

Simon

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2021 2:45 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

 

Hey there,

So I downloaded the arthax program, and every  time it asks if I want to install the scripts, I say yes. And it says  error cant’ install scripts and closes.

I also checked the website and the articles section, and there is nothing on how to record with the program.

Can you give me some pointers please?

I’ve got it set to Flac and max compression but dunno what to do from here.

Thanks,

John

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: goshawk on horseback
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 7:09 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

 

for the recording, I would say give arthax a go. I am using it with win7,

but as it is a fairly new program, don't see why it wouldn't work with

win10.

it has a super useful audio monitoring feature, which is great if one needs

to set levels, eq, and things, and it can do wav, mp3, or flac recordings.

have been using it to remaster a lot of tapes over the covid imprisonment

regime.

 

I tend to use wavepad for any editing work.

 

hope this helps.

 

Simon

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "John Holcomb II" <jhii926@...>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 11:27 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

 

 

I only need simple stereo recording, and do not need  a multi-track

solution.

I'm only recording off an FM tuner.

John

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jujube

Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 5:42 PM

To: main@techtalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

 

[Edited Message Follows]

 

For audio recording I highly recommend Audacity and/or Reaper. Both are

accessible with either JAWS or NVDA. For Reaper you must download an

extension called OSARA in order to use it with screen readers though.

 

Recording in Audacity is easier and involves less steps, it is also great

for basic editing and splicing of recordings and it should work with loop

playback. However, if you're doing more extensive work with effects and need

better, non destructive fading and stuff, Reaper is better. If anything, I

recommend having both on your system because you may find both useful for

different things. Audacity is totally free and open source while Reaper has

an indefinite full featured trial period so you could use it for free

forever, however you should pay the $60 license if you can.

 

By the way, Audacity and Reaper are some of the most popular and mainstream

audio editing and mixing apps in the sighted world too :)

 

On 8/3/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@...> wrote:

> Sound Forge Studio 10 won't work under Windows 10, so I've found.

> I've got an upgrade to Studio 15 $35, and  can get the new JAWS

> scripts from Jim Snowbarjer.

> But before I do this, what other solutions do people use for recording

> audio?

> I need to be able to record, normalize, save to *.flac, be able to cut

> audio and loop playback. I record from an external sound card.

> Fade options are a must too.

> I know some have used GoldWave but do not believe scripts are being

> updated for it anymore.

> Man I am glad I don't have Windows 10 on my primary computer yet!

> I've had to get sited help to install sound card drivers for my

> Creative card which also doesn't work on Windows 10 natively without

> drivers from the company, like Windows  7 did.

> I'm going to be upgrading to Windows 10 soon on my main box since Jaws

> 2022 won't support 7. So I wanna make sure I got all of my ducks in a row.

> I was told my GeForce 210 video card will work, now I gotta get the

> audio stuff working.

> Thanks,

> John

> Thanks,

> John

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: [Tech4theblind] FW: An Open Letter to Cloudflare

John Holcomb II
 

Thanks guys for the explaination !
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Austin Pinto
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 9:20 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] [Tech4theblind] FW: An Open Letter to Cloudflare

cloudflare is also a cdn that can be used in your website to make it load faster as it provides cached content from nearest server to you

On 8/4/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
I’ve heard something about changing DNS could be better than using
your providers DNS, but how is this possible?

I’ve heard of DNS but not even sure what that is either.

Thanks,

John





From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Marco Curralejo
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 11:34 AM
To: Tech4theblind@groups.io; blind-techies@groups.io
Cc: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] [Tech4theblind] FW: An Open Letter to
Cloudflare



Cloudflare is a global network designed to make everything you connect
to the Internet secure, private, fast, and reliable.



I use it on my router to connect to its dns which I find to be the fastest.



For instance, Google has a DNS of 8.8.8.8 whereas Cloud Flare is
1.1.1.1 and for me, it works flawlessly and is the fastest.



Hope this helps to explain somewhat what it is.



Marco



From: Tech4theblind@groups.io <mailto:Tech4theblind@groups.io>
<Tech4theblind@groups.io <mailto:Tech4theblind@groups.io> > On Behalf
Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 1:12 AM
To: blind-techies@groups.io <mailto:blind-techies@groups.io>
Cc: Tech4theblind@groups.io <mailto:Tech4theblind@groups.io> ;
main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: [Tech4theblind] FW: An Open Letter to Cloudflare



No idea what this guy is talking about…

I’ve heard of cloud flare but couldn’t even tell you what that is.

Anyway, I’m sending this along in case anyone wants to help these guys
out with whatever it is they are talking about.



John





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We never relish using public forums to call out companies guilty of
leaving customers behind. In this case, our attempts at communication
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Mr. Prince:

About four months ago, Cloudflare launched Browser Isolation during
Security Week, without ensuring that the product is accessible to
blind people using screen readers. Now, four months later, this problem is still not solved.
Cloudflare’s neglect of accessibility in this product raises a new
barrier to employment for blind people as companies adopt this product
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As I’m sure you recall, I first contacted you about this problem a
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completely inaccessible with a screen reader unless the team
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technical advice on how to make this product fully accessible, based
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Now, as your Impact Week draws to a close, I’m writing to remind you
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Re: Audio recording

goshawk on horseback
 


don't know about the scripts issue, as haven't had that here.
I assume you found the "record" option in the menus? if not, it's in the "extras" menu.
once you are in that, have set your file name, format, and all that, press the alt key for the menu, and one will come up called "record"
in there, you should find 4 options,
"start",
"pause",
"stop",
and "new file".
hope that helps.
 
Simon
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2021 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

Hey there,

So I downloaded the arthax program, and every  time it asks if I want to install the scripts, I say yes. And it says  error cant’ install scripts and closes.

I also checked the website and the articles section, and there is nothing on how to record with the program.

Can you give me some pointers please?

I’ve got it set to Flac and max compression but dunno what to do from here.

Thanks,

John

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: goshawk on horseback
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 7:09 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

 

for the recording, I would say give arthax a go. I am using it with win7,

but as it is a fairly new program, don't see why it wouldn't work with

win10.

it has a super useful audio monitoring feature, which is great if one needs

to set levels, eq, and things, and it can do wav, mp3, or flac recordings.

have been using it to remaster a lot of tapes over the covid imprisonment

regime.

 

I tend to use wavepad for any editing work.

 

hope this helps.

 

Simon

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "John Holcomb II" <jhii926@...>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 11:27 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

 

 

I only need simple stereo recording, and do not need  a multi-track

solution.

I'm only recording off an FM tuner.

John

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jujube

Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 5:42 PM

To: main@techtalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

 

[Edited Message Follows]

 

For audio recording I highly recommend Audacity and/or Reaper. Both are

accessible with either JAWS or NVDA. For Reaper you must download an

extension called OSARA in order to use it with screen readers though.

 

Recording in Audacity is easier and involves less steps, it is also great

for basic editing and splicing of recordings and it should work with loop

playback. However, if you're doing more extensive work with effects and need

better, non destructive fading and stuff, Reaper is better. If anything, I

recommend having both on your system because you may find both useful for

different things. Audacity is totally free and open source while Reaper has

an indefinite full featured trial period so you could use it for free

forever, however you should pay the $60 license if you can.

 

By the way, Audacity and Reaper are some of the most popular and mainstream

audio editing and mixing apps in the sighted world too :)

 

On 8/3/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@...> wrote:

> Sound Forge Studio 10 won't work under Windows 10, so I've found.

> I've got an upgrade to Studio 15 $35, and  can get the new JAWS

> scripts from Jim Snowbarjer.

> But before I do this, what other solutions do people use for recording

> audio?

> I need to be able to record, normalize, save to *.flac, be able to cut

> audio and loop playback. I record from an external sound card.

> Fade options are a must too.

> I know some have used GoldWave but do not believe scripts are being

> updated for it anymore.

> Man I am glad I don't have Windows 10 on my primary computer yet!

> I've had to get sited help to install sound card drivers for my

> Creative card which also doesn't work on Windows 10 natively without

> drivers from the company, like Windows  7 did.

> I'm going to be upgrading to Windows 10 soon on my main box since Jaws

> 2022 won't support 7. So I wanna make sure I got all of my ducks in a row.

> I was told my GeForce 210 video card will work, now I gotta get the

> audio stuff working.

> Thanks,

> John

> Thanks,

> John

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Audio recording

John Holcomb II
 

Hey there,

So I downloaded the arthax program, and every  time it asks if I want to install the scripts, I say yes. And it says  error cant’ install scripts and closes.

I also checked the website and the articles section, and there is nothing on how to record with the program.

Can you give me some pointers please?

I’ve got it set to Flac and max compression but dunno what to do from here.

Thanks,

John

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: goshawk on horseback
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 7:09 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

 

for the recording, I would say give arthax a go. I am using it with win7,

but as it is a fairly new program, don't see why it wouldn't work with

win10.

it has a super useful audio monitoring feature, which is great if one needs

to set levels, eq, and things, and it can do wav, mp3, or flac recordings.

have been using it to remaster a lot of tapes over the covid imprisonment

regime.

 

I tend to use wavepad for any editing work.

 

hope this helps.

 

Simon

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "John Holcomb II" <jhii926@...>

To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 11:27 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

 

 

I only need simple stereo recording, and do not need  a multi-track

solution.

I'm only recording off an FM tuner.

John

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jujube

Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 5:42 PM

To: main@techtalk.groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

 

[Edited Message Follows]

 

For audio recording I highly recommend Audacity and/or Reaper. Both are

accessible with either JAWS or NVDA. For Reaper you must download an

extension called OSARA in order to use it with screen readers though.

 

Recording in Audacity is easier and involves less steps, it is also great

for basic editing and splicing of recordings and it should work with loop

playback. However, if you're doing more extensive work with effects and need

better, non destructive fading and stuff, Reaper is better. If anything, I

recommend having both on your system because you may find both useful for

different things. Audacity is totally free and open source while Reaper has

an indefinite full featured trial period so you could use it for free

forever, however you should pay the $60 license if you can.

 

By the way, Audacity and Reaper are some of the most popular and mainstream

audio editing and mixing apps in the sighted world too :)

 

On 8/3/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@...> wrote:

> Sound Forge Studio 10 won't work under Windows 10, so I've found.

> I've got an upgrade to Studio 15 $35, and  can get the new JAWS

> scripts from Jim Snowbarjer.

> But before I do this, what other solutions do people use for recording

> audio?

> I need to be able to record, normalize, save to *.flac, be able to cut

> audio and loop playback. I record from an external sound card.

> Fade options are a must too.

> I know some have used GoldWave but do not believe scripts are being

> updated for it anymore.

> Man I am glad I don't have Windows 10 on my primary computer yet!

> I've had to get sited help to install sound card drivers for my

> Creative card which also doesn't work on Windows 10 natively without

> drivers from the company, like Windows  7 did.

> I'm going to be upgrading to Windows 10 soon on my main box since Jaws

> 2022 won't support 7. So I wanna make sure I got all of my ducks in a row.

> I was told my GeForce 210 video card will work, now I gotta get the

> audio stuff working.

> Thanks,

> John

> Thanks,

> John

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: [Tech4theblind] FW: An Open Letter to Cloudflare

 

cloudflare is also a cdn that can be used in your website to make it
load faster as it provides cached content from nearest server to you

On 8/4/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
I’ve heard something about changing DNS could be better than using your
providers DNS, but how is this possible?

I’ve heard of DNS but not even sure what that is either.

Thanks,

John





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Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 11:34 AM
To: Tech4theblind@groups.io; blind-techies@groups.io
Cc: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] [Tech4theblind] FW: An Open Letter to Cloudflare



Cloudflare is a global network designed to make everything you connect to
the Internet secure, private, fast, and reliable.



I use it on my router to connect to its dns which I find to be the fastest.



For instance, Google has a DNS of 8.8.8.8 whereas Cloud Flare is 1.1.1.1 and
for me, it works flawlessly and is the fastest.



Hope this helps to explain somewhat what it is.



Marco



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No idea what this guy is talking about…

I’ve heard of cloud flare but couldn’t even tell you what that is.

Anyway, I’m sending this along in case anyone wants to help these guys out
with whatever it is they are talking about.



John





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Re: Audio recording

goshawk on horseback
 

for the recording, I would say give arthax a go. I am using it with win7, but as it is a fairly new program, don't see why it wouldn't work with win10.
it has a super useful audio monitoring feature, which is great if one needs to set levels, eq, and things, and it can do wav, mp3, or flac recordings.
have been using it to remaster a lot of tapes over the covid imprisonment regime.

I tend to use wavepad for any editing work.

hope this helps.

Simon

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Holcomb II" <jhii926@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording


I only need simple stereo recording, and do not need a multi-track solution.
I'm only recording off an FM tuner.
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jujube
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 5:42 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

[Edited Message Follows]

For audio recording I highly recommend Audacity and/or Reaper. Both are accessible with either JAWS or NVDA. For Reaper you must download an extension called OSARA in order to use it with screen readers though.

Recording in Audacity is easier and involves less steps, it is also great for basic editing and splicing of recordings and it should work with loop playback. However, if you're doing more extensive work with effects and need better, non destructive fading and stuff, Reaper is better. If anything, I recommend having both on your system because you may find both useful for different things. Audacity is totally free and open source while Reaper has an indefinite full featured trial period so you could use it for free forever, however you should pay the $60 license if you can.

By the way, Audacity and Reaper are some of the most popular and mainstream audio editing and mixing apps in the sighted world too :)

On 8/3/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Sound Forge Studio 10 won't work under Windows 10, so I've found.

I've got an upgrade to Studio 15 $35, and can get the new JAWS
scripts from Jim Snowbarjer.

But before I do this, what other solutions do people use for recording
audio?

I need to be able to record, normalize, save to *.flac, be able to cut
audio and loop playback. I record from an external sound card.

Fade options are a must too.

I know some have used GoldWave but do not believe scripts are being
updated for it anymore.

Man I am glad I don't have Windows 10 on my primary computer yet!

I've had to get sited help to install sound card drivers for my
Creative card which also doesn't work on Windows 10 natively without
drivers from the company, like Windows 7 did.

I'm going to be upgrading to Windows 10 soon on my main box since Jaws
2022 won't support 7. So I wanna make sure I got all of my ducks in a row.

I was told my GeForce 210 video card will work, now I gotta get the
audio stuff working.

Thanks,

John



Thanks,

John









Re: Audio recording

John Holcomb II
 

Thanks!
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jujube
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 6:36 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

Hmmm... unfortunately I can't think of anything that just does single track recording other than like basic voice recorder type apps, but you can record single tracks in Audacity and Reaper (sounds like Audacity may be more fitting in your case).

On 8/3/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
I only need simple stereo recording, and do not need a multi-track
solution.
I'm only recording off an FM tuner.
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Jujube
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 5:42 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

[Edited Message Follows]

For audio recording I highly recommend Audacity and/or Reaper. Both
are accessible with either JAWS or NVDA. For Reaper you must download
an extension called OSARA in order to use it with screen readers though.

Recording in Audacity is easier and involves less steps, it is also
great for basic editing and splicing of recordings and it should work
with loop playback. However, if you're doing more extensive work with
effects and need better, non destructive fading and stuff, Reaper is
better. If anything, I recommend having both on your system because
you may find both useful for different things. Audacity is totally
free and open source while Reaper has an indefinite full featured
trial period so you could use it for free forever, however you should pay the $60 license if you can.

By the way, Audacity and Reaper are some of the most popular and
mainstream audio editing and mixing apps in the sighted world too :)

On 8/3/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Sound Forge Studio 10 won't work under Windows 10, so I've found.

I've got an upgrade to Studio 15 $35, and can get the new JAWS
scripts from Jim Snowbarjer.

But before I do this, what other solutions do people use for
recording audio?

I need to be able to record, normalize, save to *.flac, be able to
cut audio and loop playback. I record from an external sound card.

Fade options are a must too.

I know some have used GoldWave but do not believe scripts are being
updated for it anymore.

Man I am glad I don't have Windows 10 on my primary computer yet!

I've had to get sited help to install sound card drivers for my
Creative card which also doesn't work on Windows 10 natively without
drivers from the company, like Windows 7 did.

I'm going to be upgrading to Windows 10 soon on my main box since
Jaws
2022 won't support 7. So I wanna make sure I got all of my ducks in a
row.

I was told my GeForce 210 video card will work, now I gotta get the
audio stuff working.

Thanks,

John



Thanks,

John



















Re: Audio recording

Jujube
 

Hmmm... unfortunately I can't think of anything that just does single
track recording other than like basic voice recorder type apps, but
you can record single tracks in Audacity and Reaper (sounds like
Audacity may be more fitting in your case).

On 8/3/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
I only need simple stereo recording, and do not need a multi-track
solution.
I'm only recording off an FM tuner.
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jujube
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 5:42 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

[Edited Message Follows]

For audio recording I highly recommend Audacity and/or Reaper. Both are
accessible with either JAWS or NVDA. For Reaper you must download an
extension called OSARA in order to use it with screen readers though.

Recording in Audacity is easier and involves less steps, it is also great
for basic editing and splicing of recordings and it should work with loop
playback. However, if you're doing more extensive work with effects and need
better, non destructive fading and stuff, Reaper is better. If anything, I
recommend having both on your system because you may find both useful for
different things. Audacity is totally free and open source while Reaper has
an indefinite full featured trial period so you could use it for free
forever, however you should pay the $60 license if you can.

By the way, Audacity and Reaper are some of the most popular and mainstream
audio editing and mixing apps in the sighted world too :)

On 8/3/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Sound Forge Studio 10 won't work under Windows 10, so I've found.

I've got an upgrade to Studio 15 $35, and can get the new JAWS
scripts from Jim Snowbarjer.

But before I do this, what other solutions do people use for recording
audio?

I need to be able to record, normalize, save to *.flac, be able to cut
audio and loop playback. I record from an external sound card.

Fade options are a must too.

I know some have used GoldWave but do not believe scripts are being
updated for it anymore.

Man I am glad I don't have Windows 10 on my primary computer yet!

I've had to get sited help to install sound card drivers for my
Creative card which also doesn't work on Windows 10 natively without
drivers from the company, like Windows 7 did.

I'm going to be upgrading to Windows 10 soon on my main box since Jaws
2022 won't support 7. So I wanna make sure I got all of my ducks in a
row.

I was told my GeForce 210 video card will work, now I gotta get the
audio stuff working.

Thanks,

John



Thanks,

John



















Re: Audio recording

John Holcomb II
 

I only need simple stereo recording, and do not need a multi-track solution.
I'm only recording off an FM tuner.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jujube
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 5:42 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Audio recording

[Edited Message Follows]

For audio recording I highly recommend Audacity and/or Reaper. Both are accessible with either JAWS or NVDA. For Reaper you must download an extension called OSARA in order to use it with screen readers though.

Recording in Audacity is easier and involves less steps, it is also great for basic editing and splicing of recordings and it should work with loop playback. However, if you're doing more extensive work with effects and need better, non destructive fading and stuff, Reaper is better. If anything, I recommend having both on your system because you may find both useful for different things. Audacity is totally free and open source while Reaper has an indefinite full featured trial period so you could use it for free forever, however you should pay the $60 license if you can.

By the way, Audacity and Reaper are some of the most popular and mainstream audio editing and mixing apps in the sighted world too :)

On 8/3/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Sound Forge Studio 10 won't work under Windows 10, so I've found.

I've got an upgrade to Studio 15 $35, and can get the new JAWS
scripts from Jim Snowbarjer.

But before I do this, what other solutions do people use for recording
audio?

I need to be able to record, normalize, save to *.flac, be able to cut
audio and loop playback. I record from an external sound card.

Fade options are a must too.

I know some have used GoldWave but do not believe scripts are being
updated for it anymore.

Man I am glad I don't have Windows 10 on my primary computer yet!

I've had to get sited help to install sound card drivers for my
Creative card which also doesn't work on Windows 10 natively without
drivers from the company, like Windows 7 did.

I'm going to be upgrading to Windows 10 soon on my main box since Jaws
2022 won't support 7. So I wanna make sure I got all of my ducks in a row.

I was told my GeForce 210 video card will work, now I gotta get the
audio stuff working.

Thanks,

John



Thanks,

John









Re: Audio recording

Jujube
 
Edited

For audio recording I highly recommend Audacity and/or Reaper. Both are accessible with either JAWS or NVDA. For Reaper you must download
an extension called OSARA in order to use it with screen readers though.

Recording in Audacity is easier and involves less steps, it is also great for basic editing and splicing of recordings and it should work with loop playback. However, if you're doing more extensive work with effects and need better, non destructive fading and stuff, Reaper is better. If anything, I recommend having both on your system because you may find both useful for different things. Audacity is totally free and open source while Reaper has an indefinite full featured trial period so you could use it for free forever, however you should pay the $60 license if you can.

By the way, Audacity and Reaper are some of the most popular and mainstream audio editing and mixing apps in the sighted world too :)

On 8/3/21, John Holcomb II <jhii926@gmail.com> wrote:
Sound Forge Studio 10 won't work under Windows 10, so I've found.

I've got an upgrade to Studio 15 $35, and can get the new JAWS scripts
from Jim Snowbarjer.

But before I do this, what other solutions do people use for recording
audio?

I need to be able to record, normalize, save to *.flac, be able to cut
audio
and loop playback. I record from an external sound card.

Fade options are a must too.

I know some have used GoldWave but do not believe scripts are being updated
for it anymore.

Man I am glad I don't have Windows 10 on my primary computer yet!

I've had to get sited help to install sound card drivers for my Creative
card which also doesn't work on Windows 10 natively without drivers from
the
company, like Windows 7 did.

I'm going to be upgrading to Windows 10 soon on my main box since Jaws 2022
won't support 7. So I wanna make sure I got all of my ducks in a row.

I was told my GeForce 210 video card will work, now I gotta get the audio
stuff working.

Thanks,

John



Thanks,

John









Audio recording

John Holcomb II
 

Sound Forge Studio 10 won’t work under Windows 10, so I’ve found.

I’ve got an upgrade to Studio 15 $35, and  can get the new JAWS  scripts from Jim Snowbarjer.

But before I do this, what other solutions do people use for recording audio?

I need to be able to record, normalize, save to *.flac, be able to cut audio and loop playback. I record from an external sound card.

Fade options are a must too.

I know some have used GoldWave but do not believe scripts are being updated for it anymore.

Man I am glad I don’t have Windows 10 on my primary computer yet!

I’ve had to get sited help to install sound card drivers for my Creative card which also doesn’t work on Windows 10 natively without drivers from the company, like Windows  7 did.

I’m going to be upgrading to Windows 10 soon on my main box since Jaws 2022 won’t support 7. So I wanna make sure I got all of my ducks in a row.

I was told my GeForce 210 video card will work, now I gotta get the audio stuff working.

Thanks,

John

 

Thanks,

John

 


Re: [Tech4theblind] FW: An Open Letter to Cloudflare

John Holcomb II
 

I’ve heard something about changing DNS could be better than using your providers DNS, but how is this possible?

I’ve heard of DNS but not even sure what that is either.

Thanks,

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marco Curralejo
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 11:34 AM
To: Tech4theblind@groups.io; blind-techies@groups.io
Cc: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] [Tech4theblind] FW: An Open Letter to Cloudflare

 

Cloudflare is a global network designed to make everything you connect to the Internet secure, private, fast, and reliable.

 

I use it on my router to connect to its dns which I find to be the fastest.

 

For instance, Google has a DNS of 8.8.8.8 whereas Cloud Flare is 1.1.1.1 and for me, it works flawlessly and is the fastest.

 

Hope this helps to explain somewhat what it is.

 

Marco

 

From: Tech4theblind@groups.io <Tech4theblind@groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 1:12 AM
To: blind-techies@groups.io
Cc: Tech4theblind@groups.io; main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [Tech4theblind] FW: An Open Letter to Cloudflare

 

No  idea what this guy is talking about…

I’ve heard of cloud flare but couldn’t even tell you what that is.

Anyway, I’m sending this along in case anyone wants to help these guys out with whatever it is they are talking about.

 

John

 

 

From: Mike Calvo <mailchimp-contact@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 10:00 AM
To: John <jhii926@...>
Subject: An Open Letter to Cloudflare

 

View this email in your browser

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Hi John,

An Open Letter to Cloudflare

We never relish using public forums to call out companies guilty of leaving customers behind. In this case, our attempts at communication have gone unanswered. It’s not lack of awareness on their part; we alerted them eighteen months ago the service they were designing would not be accessible. The CEO reaffirmed his company’s mission, but as of today, the service they released is as inaccessible as we predicted.

Having exhausted other alternatives, I published an open letter to Cloudflare. Below is an excerpt of that letter for your awareness. If anyone cares to follow or contribute to a discussion thread on the subject, you can participate here.

Cloudflare’s inaccessible browser contradicts the company’s mission

An open letter to Matthew Prince, CEO, Cloudflare

by Matt Campbell
July 30, 2021

Mr. Prince:

About four months ago, Cloudflare launched Browser Isolation during Security Week, without ensuring that the product is accessible to blind people using screen readers. Now, four months later, this problem is still not solved. Cloudflare’s neglect of accessibility in this product raises a new barrier to employment for blind people as companies adopt this product to improve the security of their networks.

As I’m sure you recall, I first contacted you about this problem a year and a half ago, when Cloudflare first pre-announced the development of Browser Isolation, because I knew based on the technical description in that blog post that this product would be completely inaccessible with a screen reader unless the team specifically took steps to make it accessible. I even offered deep technical advice on how to make this product fully accessible, based on my expertise in accessibility and many years of experience as a developer of assistive technology. You were quick to respond back then, assuring me that the team was taking accessibility into account. In particular, you wrote the following, referring to your company’s mission: “Agree with you that it’s critical we not take a step backward as we’re working toward building a better Internet.”

Now, as your Impact Week draws to a close, I’m writing to remind you of what you told me last year. Throughout this week, Cloudflare has promoted many activities that contribute to its mission. There was even a blog post about Flarability, the employee resource group for disabled Cloudflare employees. But despite all of that, Cloudflare’s neglect of accessibility in the Browser Isolation product stands as a contradiction of the company’s mission....

Read Matt's entire letter in our blog post at Pneuma Solutions website

Sincerely,

Matt Campbell, Chief Technology Officer and Cofounder

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Re: Email Question

Carolyn Arnold
 

Exactly, Ron, I wouldn't have it any other way.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 11:46 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Email Question

Hi Group,

It isn't really that difficult to set up folders and message rules. I have 17 mailing lists that I subscribe to and if I let them all come into the inbox, I would have to read through all of them every day for hour after hour to make sense of the whole thing. I also group by conversation which allows me to delete dozens of messages at one time that I am not interested in. This way, I can get over a thousand messages daily and it only takes me about an hour or less most days to sift through the lot and read and respond to just the messages/topics I am interested in.

I hear so many people complain about too much list traffic and when I inquire, it's because they don't set up folders/message rules. People should really take the time to learn about this valuable e-mail tool.



On 8/3/2021 4:53 AM, Shelly Kane wrote:
Pam:


I feel the exact same way. It's a good way to do it. It can get very
confusing and I don't want to enter into something I don't know.

On 8/1/2021 7:06 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
I do it exactly the way Shelly does it, also. It gets too involved
trying to find out how to make different folders for different lists.
Also, I don't do threads, either. I get them as they come in, newest
on top and oldest on bottom. I can't handle anything more
complicated. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Marilyn and Don Bilderback
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 9:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Email Question

Shelly,
Just like me, I want only the basics on my computer. I manage
finethat way. Glad there is another person who thinks like I do.
Marilyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 2:31 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Email Question

John:


Thanks for getting back to me. I think I told you that I hit Control
Enter to send a message and to begin a message, I hit Control N. As
to the folders, I like all of my mail to go into the in box. When I
delete a message, I have it go into the trash folder and then when
there is a lot, I delete them totally from that folder and they come
off the computer. I don't like to plug my computer up with messages.
I also have a sent folder that the message I send fall into. When I
start a message and can't finish it, it goes to the drafts folder and
then I can go back to it after I save it. That's all of the folders
I want.

Shelly

On 7/30/2021 4:10 PM, John Holcomb II wrote:
Hey Shelly,
Like ok right now.
Do you have rules set up so that certain mail go into certain folders?

The keystrokes to send a message will remain the same no matter
which protocol you use, pop3 or imap.
Because you see, the keystroke you use to send the message is one
that is built into the program.
Does that make sense ?
Once you answer the question about folders, I can direct you further.
Glad to help in any way that I can!
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 8:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Email Question

John:


No, no one explained iMap the way you just did. I'm not tech savvy
at all so I'm lucky that I can do the things I can. The question I
have is when I set up iMap, will it look my folders in Thunderbird
that I have set up now? When I open the program, I download my mail
and then I hit
F6 to see a list of my folders and I hit tab and then it says filter
messages and then I can do my business and go down the list of
messages. Does iMap work like that or is it more involved? My niece
is sighted and usually helps me with these things. I would
eventually want my mail to come off the server so it doesn't clog my
devices. When I send a message, I hit Control Enter and then when
I'm done, I hit Control S to send. Does this work the same way for
iMap? Sorry that I have so many questions. I just need to know
that things work the same way so I don't have to start all over
again. If you could tell me how to set it up step by step, I could
definitely do it. Thanks in advance.

Shelly

On 7/30/2021 6:15 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:
Hey Shelly.
I’m not here to decide what is best for you but let me explain
something to you.
If you use iMap then whatever happens server side will apply to
every device you use at the same time.
Let’s say you get a message on your thunderbird and open it and
read it .
Once you go to your phone, the same message will be there and
it’ll be marked as read.
Let’s say you open a message on your phone, read it , then reply to
it.
Your message will be marked as replied, you’re reply be put
into a sent folder.
Let’s say you then go to your PC. You’ll see the same message, but
it’ll be marked as replied, and you’ll see it in the sent folder,
just as you would on your phone.

This applies to anything you do using email.
Deleting messages, forwarding messages, creating folders, literally
anything.
See the advantage of iMap is that it doesn’t matter what device you
do what on.
I used to use Pop3 some while back, but see this is exactly why
IMAP exists.
For this very reason. For people who have and use multiple devices.
this way you don’t have to worry about what you open where and when.
This way you don’t have to think, hmm. Did I open the mail on my
PC, is it on my phone? Where is it?
Where is the reply?:
It also just makes managing mail a lot easier.
IMAP is made for multiple device/web access.

No mattter if you do these things on your thunderbird, or your
phone, or the web interface, the server will keep track of
everything that is done and it’ll be mirrored across devices. I
did read the thread, but not sure if anyone explains in greater
detail the advantages of imap.
In case they didn’t, that’s why i wrote you here.
I’d personally a advise you switch to iMap with your mails. It’ll
make life a lot easier for you, in my opinion.

Take care,
John


Sent from my iPod

On Jul 30, 2021, at 2:57 AM, Shelly Kane <shellykane323@gmail.com>
wrote:

Thank you so much for explaining this to me. I use a pop3
account and have for years. Now at least I understand what's
going on. I wouldn't use my phone that much for email. I was
just looking into it. If I don't download my mail right away onto
Thunderbird, I can see it on the web or my phone. I have no idea
how to use IMap so I would rather stick with the pop3 which I
know. Thanks so much for your help.

Shelly

On 7/29/2021 7:51 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi There,

You must have your mail account set to imap for this to woork
properly. Imap will automatically leave a copy on the server of
all received mail. With pop3, all e-mail is downloaded just one
time and nothing is left on the server.
I forget what mail account you have, so i can't help any more
than that.

On 7/29/2021 4:28 AM, Shelly Kane wrote:
Hi Group:


I have a complicated question about my email and hope someone
can answer this. I tried putting my email account on my phone
last night so I can start looking at it and not get on the
computer all the time. So after I got it all set up, it worked
great. The mail downloaded just fine and I wanted to make sure
it still worked in Thunderbird because I use the computer more.
It downloaded in Thunderbird just fine but here's the problem.
When I went back on the phone to see if the mail was in both
places, Thunderbird blocked it. My phone had no email on there.
It was wiped clean. This happens also when I download mail into
Thunderbird and I go to my gmail account on the web you can't
see the mail on google either if it's already in Thunderbird.
Do any of you know why this keeps happening and is there
anything simple I can do about it? Thanks in advance for any
help.

Shelly








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Re: Email Question

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

It isn't really that difficult to set up folders and  message rules. I have 17 mailing lists that I subscribe to and if I let them all come into the inbox, I would have to read through all of them every day for hour after hour to make sense of the whole thing.  I also group by conversation which allows me to delete dozens of messages at one time that I am not interested in. This way, I can get over a thousand messages daily and it only takes me about an hour or less most days to sift through the lot and read and respond to just the messages/topics I am interested in.

I hear so many people complain about too much list traffic and when I inquire, it's because they don't set up folders/message rules. People should really take the time to learn about this valuable e-mail tool.

On 8/3/2021 4:53 AM, Shelly Kane wrote:
Pam:


I feel the exact same way.  It's a good way to do it.  It can get very confusing and I don't want to enter into something I don't know.

On 8/1/2021 7:06 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
I do it exactly the way Shelly does it, also.  It gets too involved trying to find out how to make different folders for different lists.  Also, I don't do threads, either.  I get them as they come in, newest on top and oldest on bottom.  I can't handle anything more complicated. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Marilyn and Don Bilderback
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 9:54 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Email Question

Shelly,
Just like me, I want only the basics on my computer.  I manage finethat way. Glad there is another person who thinks like I do.
Marilyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shelly Kane
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 2:31 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Email Question

John:


Thanks for getting back to me.  I think I told you that I hit Control Enter to send a message and to begin a message, I hit Control N.  As to the folders, I like all of my mail to go into the in box.  When I delete a message, I have it go into the trash folder and then when there is a lot, I delete them totally from that folder and they come off the computer.  I don't like to plug my computer up with messages.  I also have a sent folder that the message I send fall into.  When I start a message and can't finish it, it goes to the drafts folder and then I can go back to it after I save it.  That's all of the folders I want.

Shelly

On 7/30/2021 4:10 PM, John Holcomb II wrote:
Hey Shelly,
Like ok right now.
Do you have rules set up so that certain mail go into certain folders?

The keystrokes to send a message will remain the same no matter which protocol you use, pop3 or  imap.
Because you see, the keystroke you use to send the message is one that is built into the program.
Does that make sense ?
Once you answer the question about folders, I can direct you further.
Glad to help in any way that I can!
John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shelly Kane
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 8:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Email Question

John:


No, no one explained iMap the way you just did.  I'm not tech savvy at
all so I'm lucky that I can do the things I can.  The question I have
is when I set up iMap, will it look my folders in Thunderbird that I
have set up now?  When I open the program, I download my mail and then
I hit
F6 to see a list of my folders and I hit tab and then it says filter messages and then I can do my business and go down the list of messages. Does iMap work like that or is it more involved?  My niece is sighted and usually helps me with these things.  I would eventually want my mail to come off the server so it doesn't clog my devices.  When I send a message, I hit Control Enter and then when I'm done, I hit Control S to send. Does this work the same way for iMap?  Sorry that I have so many questions.  I just need to know that things work the same way so I don't have to start all over again.  If you could tell me how to set it up step by step, I could definitely do it. Thanks in advance.

Shelly

On 7/30/2021 6:15 AM, John Holcomb II wrote:
Hey Shelly.
I’m not here to decide what is best for you but let me explain something to you.
If you use iMap then whatever happens server side will apply to every device you use at the same time.
Let’s say you get a message on your thunderbird and  open it and read it .
Once you go to your phone, the  same message will be there and it’ll be marked as read.
Let’s say you open a message on your phone, read it , then reply to it.
Your message will be marked  as replied, you’re reply    be put into a sent  folder.
Let’s say you then go to your PC. You’ll see the same message, but it’ll be marked as  replied, and you’ll see it in the sent folder, just as you would on your phone.

This applies to anything you do using email.
Deleting messages, forwarding messages, creating folders, literally anything.
See the advantage of iMap is that it doesn’t matter what device you do what on.
I used to  use Pop3 some  while back, but see this is exactly why IMAP exists.
For this very reason. For people who have and use multiple devices.
this way you don’t have to worry about what you open where and when.
This way you don’t have to think, hmm. Did I open the mail on my PC, is it on my phone? Where is it?
Where is the reply?:
It also just makes managing mail a lot easier.
IMAP is made for multiple device/web  access.

No mattter if you do these things on your thunderbird, or your phone, or the web interface, the server will keep track of everything that is done and it’ll be  mirrored across devices. I did read the thread, but not sure if anyone explains in greater detail the advantages of imap.
In case they didn’t, that’s why i wrote you here.
I’d personally a advise you switch  to iMap with your mails. It’ll make life a lot easier for you, in my opinion.

Take care,
John


Sent from my iPod

On Jul 30, 2021, at 2:57 AM, Shelly Kane <shellykane323@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you so much for explaining this to me.  I use a pop3 account and have for years.  Now at least I understand what's going on.  I wouldn't use my phone that much for email.  I was just looking into it.  If I don't download my mail right away onto Thunderbird, I can see it on the web or my phone.  I have no idea how to use IMap so I would rather stick with the pop3 which I know.  Thanks so much for your help.

Shelly

On 7/29/2021 7:51 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi There,

You must have your mail account set to imap for this to woork properly. Imap will automatically leave a copy on the server of all received mail.  With pop3, all e-mail is downloaded just one time and nothing is left on the server.
I forget what mail account you have, so i can't help any more than that.

On 7/29/2021 4:28 AM, Shelly Kane wrote:
Hi Group:


I have a complicated question about my email and hope someone can answer this.  I tried putting my email account on my phone last night so I can start looking at it and not get on the computer all the time. So after I got it all set up, it worked great.  The mail downloaded just fine and I wanted to make sure it still worked in Thunderbird because I use the computer more. It downloaded in Thunderbird just fine but here's the problem. When I went back on the phone to see if the mail was in both places, Thunderbird blocked it.  My phone had no email on there.  It was wiped clean.  This happens also when I download mail into Thunderbird and I go to my gmail account on the web you can't see the mail on google either if it's already in Thunderbird.  Do any of you know why this keeps happening and is there anything simple I can do about it?  Thanks in advance for any help.

Shelly








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Signature:
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For a nation to claim it has always been great, needs no improvement and to cling to its past achievements is no virtue!


Re: [Tech4theblind] FW: An Open Letter to Cloudflare

Marco Curralejo
 

Cloudflare is a global network designed to make everything you connect to the Internet secure, private, fast, and reliable.

 

I use it on my router to connect to its dns which I find to be the fastest.

 

For instance, Google has a DNS of 8.8.8.8 whereas Cloud Flare is 1.1.1.1 and for me, it works flawlessly and is the fastest.

 

Hope this helps to explain somewhat what it is.

 

Marco

 

From: Tech4theblind@groups.io <Tech4theblind@groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 1:12 AM
To: blind-techies@groups.io
Cc: Tech4theblind@groups.io; main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [Tech4theblind] FW: An Open Letter to Cloudflare

 

No  idea what this guy is talking about…

I’ve heard of cloud flare but couldn’t even tell you what that is.

Anyway, I’m sending this along in case anyone wants to help these guys out with whatever it is they are talking about.

 

John

 

 

From: Mike Calvo <mailchimp-contact@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 10:00 AM
To: John <jhii926@...>
Subject: An Open Letter to Cloudflare

 

View this email in your browser

Image of stylized wheelchair racer denoting accessiblity, superimposed over a golden cloud

Hi John,

An Open Letter to Cloudflare

We never relish using public forums to call out companies guilty of leaving customers behind. In this case, our attempts at communication have gone unanswered. It’s not lack of awareness on their part; we alerted them eighteen months ago the service they were designing would not be accessible. The CEO reaffirmed his company’s mission, but as of today, the service they released is as inaccessible as we predicted.

Having exhausted other alternatives, I published an open letter to Cloudflare. Below is an excerpt of that letter for your awareness. If anyone cares to follow or contribute to a discussion thread on the subject, you can participate here.

Cloudflare’s inaccessible browser contradicts the company’s mission

An open letter to Matthew Prince, CEO, Cloudflare

by Matt Campbell
July 30, 2021

Mr. Prince:

About four months ago, Cloudflare launched Browser Isolation during Security Week, without ensuring that the product is accessible to blind people using screen readers. Now, four months later, this problem is still not solved. Cloudflare’s neglect of accessibility in this product raises a new barrier to employment for blind people as companies adopt this product to improve the security of their networks.

As I’m sure you recall, I first contacted you about this problem a year and a half ago, when Cloudflare first pre-announced the development of Browser Isolation, because I knew based on the technical description in that blog post that this product would be completely inaccessible with a screen reader unless the team specifically took steps to make it accessible. I even offered deep technical advice on how to make this product fully accessible, based on my expertise in accessibility and many years of experience as a developer of assistive technology. You were quick to respond back then, assuring me that the team was taking accessibility into account. In particular, you wrote the following, referring to your company’s mission: “Agree with you that it’s critical we not take a step backward as we’re working toward building a better Internet.”

Now, as your Impact Week draws to a close, I’m writing to remind you of what you told me last year. Throughout this week, Cloudflare has promoted many activities that contribute to its mission. There was even a blog post about Flarability, the employee resource group for disabled Cloudflare employees. But despite all of that, Cloudflare’s neglect of accessibility in the Browser Isolation product stands as a contradiction of the company’s mission....

Read Matt's entire letter in our blog post at Pneuma Solutions website

Sincerely,

Matt Campbell, Chief Technology Officer and Cofounder

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