Mostly, weather you wait or not, just be aware of the biggest issues that us using screenreaders may have in 10. Gene and others have pointed it out, several times that some of the versions do not allow you to turn off having updates download and install, automatically. This means, that if for what ever reason, an update is going to cause you an issue with NVDA, you're gonna get that update and hopefully, find a way to either uninstall the problematic update or find a workaround. If memory serves, it's only the versions below professional that don't allow turning off updating, but I'm not 100 percent sure.
Please forgive if this has already been mentioned here in this thread specifically, I couldn't remember.

On 9/2/2015 2:58 PM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi
I've never used a braille display, with my windows computer. I do perfectly fine with my screen reader.
At this point, I plan to permanently use NVDA for my screen reader. It's much faster than jaws, and doesn't lock up your computer.
I've heard nothing but positive reviews regarding windows 10, with screen readers. Yes, as usual, there are probably accessibility issues. But that's to be expected. This software is brand-new, but things will get worked out eventually. Still, I would rather not wait.
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Sorry about that Jessica. Sometimes you get a bit caught up in responding..
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Hi,
Can we please get back to the topic that I originally asked about? It seems as though this thread is going off-topic.
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
They'll need drivers for FS because that's the only way to communicate with
them (in effect, a driver is a software package that allows software to
communicate with the hardware the driver represents).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:53 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
And how do the FS displays work? Why do those still need the drivers?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:50:41 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
Same principles apply: Bluetooth is essentially a wireless version of serial
port, so it is possible to use braille display protocols (it'll take hours
to explain how to write braille display support in NVDA, as it involves
intimate knowledge of how your braille display works).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:47 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
How about when using BlueTooth?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:46:44 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
In case of NVDA, all they did was figure out the protocol used by braille
displays, and used a serial port to send and receive data (no special
drivers needed).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:43 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
Ah, OK, thanks. I knew that humanware and hims already had their drivers
included with JAWS, and knew about the NVDA addon. I thought the others
would be similar.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:41:09 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
For some, interfacing with braille displays means using external drivers
(Freedom Scientific ones are a good example of this).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:33 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
I thought that some were built into the screen reader, though?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 14:09:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Braille displays like all devices use their own drivers and they are not all
guaranteed to work in Windows 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@...
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Hi,
Would it really effect braille displays? Forgive me, but thought
that that
was screen reader plus the device? e.g. Apex and NVDA. Why
wouldn't work
with win10?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 13:51:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Well, that is a personal thing. I will post a podcast that
might help
here.
Also you have to consider all your software and hardware will it
work with
it. Especially printers scanners and brail displays and so on.
And any
of
your special software that might not work for some reason. Also
there is
no
big hurry to do this you have almost a year to do it . So I
would wait
till
it was about six month old or so to give everything time to work
better!
Just my thoughts. See link below.




http://media.blubrry.com/blindgeekzone/www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp
-content/up

loads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2015/08/BG
Z-Update-Au
gust-30-2015.mp3







Thanks,

<mailto:Matt.from.florida@...> Matt.from.florida@...



From: Jessica D [mailto:jldail13@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:54 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?



Hi,

I would like to know if I should upgrade to windows 10?

I have heard nothing but good reviews.

What do you guys think?

I'm using the latest version of NVDA.

Thanks,

Jessica

Mostly, weather you wait or not, just be aware of the biggest issues that us using screenreaders may have in 10. Gene and others have pointed it out, several times that some of the versions do not allow you to turn off having updates download and install, automatically. This means, that if for what ever reason, an update is going to cause you an issue with NVDA, you're gonna get that update and hopefully, find a way to either uninstall the problematic update or find a workaround. If memory serves, it's only the versions below professional that don't allow turning off updating, but I'm not 100 percent sure.
Please forgive if this has already been mentioned here in this thread specifically, I couldn't remember.

On 9/2/2015 2:58 PM, Jessica D wrote:

Hi
I've never used a braille display, with my windows computer. I do perfectly fine with my screen reader.
At this point, I plan to permanently use NVDA for my screen reader. It's much faster than jaws, and doesn't lock up your computer.
I've heard nothing but positive reviews regarding windows 10, with screen readers. Yes, as usual, there are probably accessibility issues. But that's to be expected. This software is brand-new, but things will get worked out eventually. Still, I would rather not wait.
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Sorry about that Jessica. Sometimes you get a bit caught up in responding..
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Hi,
Can we please get back to the topic that I originally asked about? It seems as though this thread is going off-topic.
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
They'll need drivers for FS because that's the only way to communicate with
them (in effect, a driver is a software package that allows software to
communicate with the hardware the driver represents).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:53 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
And how do the FS displays work? Why do those still need the drivers?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:50:41 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
Same principles apply: Bluetooth is essentially a wireless version of serial
port, so it is possible to use braille display protocols (it'll take hours
to explain how to write braille display support in NVDA, as it involves
intimate knowledge of how your braille display works).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:47 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
How about when using BlueTooth?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:46:44 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
In case of NVDA, all they did was figure out the protocol used by braille
displays, and used a serial port to send and receive data (no special
drivers needed).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:43 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
Ah, OK, thanks. I knew that humanware and hims already had their drivers
included with JAWS, and knew about the NVDA addon. I thought the others
would be similar.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:41:09 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
For some, interfacing with braille displays means using external drivers
(Freedom Scientific ones are a good example of this).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:33 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
I thought that some were built into the screen reader, though?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 14:09:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Braille displays like all devices use their own drivers and they are not all
guaranteed to work in Windows 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@...
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Hi,
Would it really effect braille displays? Forgive me, but thought
that that
was screen reader plus the device? e.g. Apex and NVDA. Why
wouldn't work
with win10?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 13:51:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Well, that is a personal thing. I will post a podcast that
might help
here.
Also you have to consider all your software and hardware will it
work with
it. Especially printers scanners and brail displays and so on.
And any
of
your special software that might not work for some reason. Also
there is
no
big hurry to do this you have almost a year to do it . So I
would wait
till
it was about six month old or so to give everything time to work
better!
Just my thoughts. See link below.




http://media.blubrry.com/blindgeekzone/www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp
-content/up

loads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2015/08/BG
Z-Update-Au
gust-30-2015.mp3







Thanks,

<mailto:Matt.from.florida@...> Matt.from.florida@...



From: Jessica D [mailto:jldail13@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:54 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?



Hi,

I would like to know if I should upgrade to windows 10?

I have heard nothing but good reviews.

What do you guys think?

I'm using the latest version of NVDA.

Thanks,

Jessica

Hi
I've never used a braille display, with my windows computer. I do perfectly fine with my screen reader.
At this point, I plan to permanently use NVDA for my screen reader. It's much faster than jaws, and doesn't lock up your computer.
I've heard nothing but positive reviews regarding windows 10, with screen readers. Yes, as usual, there are probably accessibility issues. But that's to be expected. This software is brand-new, but things will get worked out eventually. Still, I would rather not wait.
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:41 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

Sorry about that Jessica. Sometimes you get a bit caught up in responding..
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Hi,
Can we please get back to the topic that I originally asked about? It seems as though this thread is going off-topic.
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 2, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
They'll need drivers for FS because that's the only way to communicate with
them (in effect, a driver is a software package that allows software to
communicate with the hardware the driver represents).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:53 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
And how do the FS displays work? Why do those still need the drivers?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:50:41 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
Same principles apply: Bluetooth is essentially a wireless version of serial
port, so it is possible to use braille display protocols (it'll take hours
to explain how to write braille display support in NVDA, as it involves
intimate knowledge of how your braille display works).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:47 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
How about when using BlueTooth?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:46:44 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
In case of NVDA, all they did was figure out the protocol used by braille
displays, and used a serial port to send and receive data (no special
drivers needed).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:43 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
Ah, OK, thanks. I knew that humanware and hims already had their drivers
included with JAWS, and knew about the NVDA addon. I thought the others
would be similar.

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:41:09 -0700
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
For some, interfacing with braille displays means using external drivers
(Freedom Scientific ones are a good example of this).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:33 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Hi,
I thought that some were built into the screen reader, though?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <carlos1106@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 14:09:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Braille displays like all devices use their own drivers and they are not all
guaranteed to work in Windows 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@...
To: <TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?


Hi,
Would it really effect braille displays? Forgive me, but thought
that that
was screen reader plus the device? e.g. Apex and NVDA. Why
wouldn't work
with win10?

Sent from a BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@...
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 13:51:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?

Well, that is a personal thing. I will post a podcast that
might help
here.
Also you have to consider all your software and hardware will it
work with
it. Especially printers scanners and brail displays and so on.
And any
of
your special software that might not work for some reason. Also
there is
no
big hurry to do this you have almost a year to do it . So I
would wait
till
it was about six month old or so to give everything time to work
better!
Just my thoughts. See link below.




http://media.blubrry.com/blindgeekzone/www.blind-geek-zone.net/wp
-content/up

loads/gravity_forms/3-98839556b66feeea5fbbaaad6c392a4c/2015/08/BG
Z-Update-Au
gust-30-2015.mp3







Thanks,

<mailto:Matt.from.florida@...> Matt.from.florida@...



From: Jessica D [mailto:jldail13@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:54 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Should I upgrade to windows 10?



Hi,

I would like to know if I should upgrade to windows 10?

I have heard nothing but good reviews.

What do you guys think?

I'm using the latest version of NVDA.

Thanks,

Jessica

----- Original Message -----

From: Marie

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 12:13 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] BGZ list

Can someone tell me how to subscribe to the Blind Geek Zone list?

Thanks, Marie

 

Well, I have to fork over repeated payments, but I see your point. But running this ship on less than 20,000 a year is really really hard, and I would throw out some personal detail about a phone call that I got from my folks about money management but I should not make that public.
You can call me and we can talk about those.
Beth

Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,

Cell: 720-435-7407

Skype: denverqueen0920

Ms_denverqueen on Twitter

Instagram: denverqueen0920

Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920

Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.

Sometimes, you might actually have to fork over cash to buy a book you want to read.

 

From: Beth [mailto:thebluesisloose@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 6:19 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fwd: BARD Outage

 

Security. Oh that's important. I would like to look into epub commercial audio books that are free to download, but then what? I really wanted to read a specific book by a specific author, but alas, not available on Bard or my other download sources. Oh man.
Beth

Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,

Cell: 720-435-7407

Skype: denverqueen0920

Ms_denverqueen on Twitter

Instagram: denverqueen0920

Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920

Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.

On 9/2/2015 6:25 PM, Robin Frost wrote:

Hi,

Well said Gene. Further more the flipside to Beth’s coin is imagine if Bard came back online but was buggy made browsers crash or machines freeze or if downloads began and then froze or were corrupted due to some back end issues. Imagine then the avalanche of complaints lobbed on email lists, forums, social media or directly at local or state libraries the latter who could do little but field calls and sympathize. Better they should take the time to fix whatever ails it or comply with whatever regulations are put upon them perhaps in the name of security by the governmental departments charged with such and get it right.

I’m all for advocacy often engaging in such myself when it comes for instance to accessibility issues with mainstream web sites or apps for smart phones. But there’s a difference between being reactionary based on little more than emotion and speculation versus informed, focused, strategic and diplomatic advocacy related dialogs with a defined purpose and end goal in mind.

Just some food for thought.

No one is threatening Bard at the present. I see no need for an all out frontal assault. No need to swing at windmills or phantom attackers that don’t presently exist.

Robin

 

 

From: Gene

Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:11 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fwd: BARD Outage

 

And it is not true that you can't get books when Bard is down even if you have no other subscription to a pay for use service.  There are a lot of books available through Project Gutenberg (spelling) that are books that are old enough to be in the public domain.  There are other such sites as well.  Librivox (spelling) consists of public domain books that people have recorded for audio listening. 

 

And a prudent person would keep a few books available downloaded from Bard so that an unexpected outage doesn't result in a crisis. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Matt

Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 7:04 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fwd: BARD Outage

 

Yes all this is true you just said . But nothing is perfect and there will be always someone or some places that just don’t have the same benefit of living in a large city. I have never lived in a large city or really city. I lived all my life way out in the country side! So there is lots of things others in a city has access to that I don’t but that is not their fault or any government agency or any company fault. It is my choice and some of it is in some cases I cannot do no better because of limit of income or whatever! But that is still not the fault of a company, or government agency or some service that is provided. JMT!

 

 

Thanks,

Matt.from.florida@...

 

From: Beth [mailto:thebluesisloose@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 7:56 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fwd: BARD Outage

 

I'm not exactly thinking that the world owes us, but not everybody has a great library like I do. Denver, thank God has a talking book library right up the road from me. Come to think of it, it is right on Sheridan, right there and I can pop over there and look at books, but not all of us have access to a library with audible books and so on. Most of the resources I have seen have commercial privacy all over them. I've got an SSI check, not enough to subscribe to monthly Audible dot com, so I rely heavily on some of the resources NLS provides. I don't want anyone to think "the world owes someone this" but there's places in the U.S. where books are out of reach, and families often have control of our finances as a general rule. I lived in Titusville, penniless for years, had no way my parents would get me an Audible account. Now that I live in Denver, I'm not penniless, but still, I am too poor to afford monthly subscriptions amounting to $20 or more. I try to calculate how much I can afford but if it's yearly, I can deal with that so long as money is saved, but hardly it is. I still have the tech bills to pay, rent to pay, etc. I'm lucky I can pay that at all. The weird thing is my rent went down six bucks this month and next. But here's the deal: I'm trying to see things from the perspective I once held in Titusville in Florida, a rural town with no access to adult reading content, and I had no money to handle via credit card, which okay, I got numbers wrong, but most book subscriptions I know of require a credit card. Most of the blind I've associated with are controlled or cajoled by families, or they live with families. My own boyfriend isn't much for books, but he should be if he wants to be. Bard would be his only resource for books because he has no credit card. I have no clue where the Phoenix talking book place is, so yeah. Technical problems like this are a huge deal when the person in question is unable to use a credit card, can't because of family, or doesn't have the right up the road access that I do.
Beth

Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,

Cell: 720-435-7407

Skype: denverqueen0920

Ms_denverqueen on Twitter

Instagram: denverqueen0920

Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920

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On 9/2/2015 5:35 PM, Matt wrote:

No I don’t think it is at 80 percent of the books any more at all. There is too many resources out there for us. They don’t owe you anything it is a service that the government provides for us free thru tax payer dollars. They don’t have to provide the service. Also it is a pain but yes you can go to the local library and pick up some audio books and brail books and other books to be scanned in and read to you. So it is not like the library is not accessible to us! Stop thinking everyone and everything owes us blind people something special. Yes we should have reasonable commendations and yes we should if at all possible have every opportunity to do what most of our seeing people can do. But just remember there is a lot of other type of handicaps than just blindness. A lot of them handicap people don’t get near what we get in help! So appreciate what we have and thank goodness we are a live and can enjoy some of these things! JMO!

 

 

Thanks,

Matt.from.florida@...

 

From: Beth [mailto:thebluesisloose@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 6:54 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Fwd: BARD Outage

 

Marie,
I understand I should be patient, but patience never paid off. We blind people can't just go to a library and pick up books we like, and Bard is for some about 80% of book access, so you have to admit that this error is unprecedented, but I say it's unacceptable because it's not good for the public eye for the site to be down for this many days. Remember the Congressional Kindergarten class that resulted in the shutdown? Well, because of a Tea Party full of greed, we lost access to books, and that's unfair. I won't let that happen to me or thousands of other readers.
Beth

Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,

Cell: 720-435-7407

Skype: denverqueen0920

Ms_denverqueen on Twitter

Instagram: denverqueen0920

Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920

Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.

On 9/2/2015 3:34 PM, Marie wrote:

Beth,

I understand your frustration with the Bard site but you must admit they have done a very creditable job of providing us with the digital books and the mobile app which is great. I would think we could have a little patience with their current difficulties. I am sure they are working hard to fix the problems and will have the site up as soon as they can.

Marie

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From: Beth

Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:40 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Subject: [TechTalk] Fwd: BARD Outage

 

This is the latest I have on Bard from Colorado's Talking Book Library, and I'm going to literally fudge the Congress people if they can't get us back our books soon. No more errors! Please!
Beth

-------- Forwarded Message --------

Subject:	BARD Outage
Date:	Wed, 2 Sep 2015 10:18:37 -0600
From:	Teresa Kalber mailto:kalber_t@...
To:	Beth Taurasi mailto:thebluesisloose@...

Good morning,

If you are a BARD user you may have noticed that the BARD website and mobile app have not been accessible over the last day. The following is a message from the National Library Service regarding this issue:

“NLS is experiencing technical problems with communication channels administered by the Library of Congress that are necessary to run BARD. We are making every effort to fix the problem and restore service.”

This is all the information we have at the present time.

We will send out another message as soon as BARD is back up and running.

Thank you for your patience and understanding!

Sincerely,

Colorado Talking Book Library

 

Teresa Kalber
Network Systems Administrator
Colorado Talking Book Library
303.727.9277  |  Mobile   |  Fax 303.727.9281  |  Toll-free 1.800.685.2136
Kalber_T@...  |  www.myctbl.org
180 Sheridan Boulevard, Denver, CO 80226


     

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On 9/3/2015 9:39 AM, Aidan wrote:
Hello everyone.
I am new to this list. Thank you for this opportunity. I am very appreciated of that. I have a Windows 10 question.

Is sappy five out of beta yet?


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On 9/3/2015 9:39 AM, Aidan wrote:
Hello everyone.
I am new to this list. Thank you for this opportunity. I am very appreciated of that. I have a Windows 10 question.

Is sappy five out of beta yet?


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Hello everyone.
I am new to this list. Thank you for this opportunity. I am very appreciated of that. I have a Windows 10 question.

Is sappy five out of beta yet?


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----- Original Message -----

From: Sylvia

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 11:32 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

I haven't tried yet but what I did try was doing a scan with windows defender. Nothing was found.

 

 

 

From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 11:30 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

Ah that was probably it then.  Did you try reinstalling to see if it makes a difference?

----- Original Message -----

From: Sylvia

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 11:18 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

Smiles, I posted this issue to bgz but didn't receive a response. I haven't noticed any unusual behaviour with my system at all.

 

 

 

From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 11:13 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

Anything is possible.  Have you noticed any other unusual behavior on your machine lately?  Also, while malware is a possibility, at least one other member has mentioned having a similar problem.  And I'm not sure if it was you on a different list, but I vaguely remember a few days ago yet another person posting about this exact same issue.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sylvia

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 10:17 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

Carlos, I just thought of something else that may be the cause of my problem and I hope my question doesn't sound silly. Is it possible that there may be something on my machine that may prevent MSE from completing the scan? I haven't noticed anything that may suggest that I have malware on my system but I thought I would ask.

 

 

 

From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 7:56 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

Both Windows 8 and 10 include Windows Defender by default which is basically a renamed version of Microsoft Security Essentials.

----- Original Message -----

From: Beth

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 7:50 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

What system OS are you running? 7, 8.1? What? I don't use MSE anymore, I got a divorce from that program a long time ago. lol
BEth

Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,

Cell: 720-435-7407

Skype: denverqueen0920

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On 9/3/2015 5:22 AM, Sylvia wrote:

Hi listers, I'm experiencing a weird issue with MSE. Every time I attempt to do a full scan, everything seems to go well until I reach 85 per cent. At that point, the program seems to stall and the scan doesn't complete. This issue started a few days ago and I'm not sure what might be causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

Sylvia.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sylvia

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 11:18 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

Smiles, I posted this issue to bgz but didn't receive a response. I haven't noticed any unusual behaviour with my system at all.

 

 

 

From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 11:13 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

Anything is possible.  Have you noticed any other unusual behavior on your machine lately?  Also, while malware is a possibility, at least one other member has mentioned having a similar problem.  And I'm not sure if it was you on a different list, but I vaguely remember a few days ago yet another person posting about this exact same issue.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sylvia

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 10:17 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

Carlos, I just thought of something else that may be the cause of my problem and I hope my question doesn't sound silly. Is it possible that there may be something on my machine that may prevent MSE from completing the scan? I haven't noticed anything that may suggest that I have malware on my system but I thought I would ask.

 

 

 

From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 7:56 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

Both Windows 8 and 10 include Windows Defender by default which is basically a renamed version of Microsoft Security Essentials.

----- Original Message -----

From: Beth

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 7:50 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

What system OS are you running? 7, 8.1? What? I don't use MSE anymore, I got a divorce from that program a long time ago. lol
BEth

Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,

Cell: 720-435-7407

Skype: denverqueen0920

Ms_denverqueen on Twitter

Instagram: denverqueen0920

Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920

Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.

On 9/3/2015 5:22 AM, Sylvia wrote:

Hi listers, I'm experiencing a weird issue with MSE. Every time I attempt to do a full scan, everything seems to go well until I reach 85 per cent. At that point, the program seems to stall and the scan doesn't complete. This issue started a few days ago and I'm not sure what might be causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

Sylvia.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sylvia

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 11:18 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

Smiles, I posted this issue to bgz but didn't receive a response. I haven't noticed any unusual behaviour with my system at all.

 

 

 

From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 11:13 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

Anything is possible.  Have you noticed any other unusual behavior on your machine lately?  Also, while malware is a possibility, at least one other member has mentioned having a similar problem.  And I'm not sure if it was you on a different list, but I vaguely remember a few days ago yet another person posting about this exact same issue.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sylvia

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 10:17 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

Carlos, I just thought of something else that may be the cause of my problem and I hope my question doesn't sound silly. Is it possible that there may be something on my machine that may prevent MSE from completing the scan? I haven't noticed anything that may suggest that I have malware on my system but I thought I would ask.

 

 

 

From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 7:56 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

Both Windows 8 and 10 include Windows Defender by default which is basically a renamed version of Microsoft Security Essentials.

----- Original Message -----

From: Beth

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 7:50 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

What system OS are you running? 7, 8.1? What? I don't use MSE anymore, I got a divorce from that program a long time ago. lol
BEth

Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,

Cell: 720-435-7407

Skype: denverqueen0920

Ms_denverqueen on Twitter

Instagram: denverqueen0920

Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920

Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.

On 9/3/2015 5:22 AM, Sylvia wrote:

Hi listers, I'm experiencing a weird issue with MSE. Every time I attempt to do a full scan, everything seems to go well until I reach 85 per cent. At that point, the program seems to stall and the scan doesn't complete. This issue started a few days ago and I'm not sure what might be causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

Sylvia.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sylvia

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 10:17 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

Carlos, I just thought of something else that may be the cause of my problem and I hope my question doesn't sound silly. Is it possible that there may be something on my machine that may prevent MSE from completing the scan? I haven't noticed anything that may suggest that I have malware on my system but I thought I would ask.

 

 

 

From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 7:56 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

Both Windows 8 and 10 include Windows Defender by default which is basically a renamed version of Microsoft Security Essentials.

----- Original Message -----

From: Beth

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 7:50 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

What system OS are you running? 7, 8.1? What? I don't use MSE anymore, I got a divorce from that program a long time ago. lol
BEth

Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,

Cell: 720-435-7407

Skype: denverqueen0920

Ms_denverqueen on Twitter

Instagram: denverqueen0920

Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920

Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.

On 9/3/2015 5:22 AM, Sylvia wrote:

Hi listers, I'm experiencing a weird issue with MSE. Every time I attempt to do a full scan, everything seems to go well until I reach 85 per cent. At that point, the program seems to stall and the scan doesn't complete. This issue started a few days ago and I'm not sure what might be causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

Sylvia.

 

Hi, guys. I'm still working my way around this site interface, so I haven't had a chance to search in the message archives for this one. I mostly use my iPod, but sometimes use my husband's Windows computer, which he is going to upgrade to Win10. HOW well does the new release of NVDA work with it?

Thanks,

Teresa

----- Original Message -----

From: Sylvia

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 10:17 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

Carlos, I just thought of something else that may be the cause of my problem and I hope my question doesn't sound silly. Is it possible that there may be something on my machine that may prevent MSE from completing the scan? I haven't noticed anything that may suggest that I have malware on my system but I thought I would ask.

 

 

 

From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 7:56 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

Both Windows 8 and 10 include Windows Defender by default which is basically a renamed version of Microsoft Security Essentials.

----- Original Message -----

From: Beth

To: TechTalk@groups.io

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 7:50 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

 

What system OS are you running? 7, 8.1? What? I don't use MSE anymore, I got a divorce from that program a long time ago. lol
BEth

Beth Taurasi, Windows 10 edition,

Cell: 720-435-7407

Skype: denverqueen0920

Ms_denverqueen on Twitter

Instagram: denverqueen0920

Facebook: www.facebook.com/denverqueen0920

Or you can check out www.denverqueen.com for more information.

On 9/3/2015 5:22 AM, Sylvia wrote:

Hi listers, I'm experiencing a weird issue with MSE. Every time I attempt to do a full scan, everything seems to go well until I reach 85 per cent. At that point, the program seems to stall and the scan doesn't complete. This issue started a few days ago and I'm not sure what might be causing it. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

Sylvia.