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Re: voice recording apps for IPhone

enes sarıbaş
 

Several questions on that app. Does it allow to record without audio processing? Is it better than the Dolby?

On 9/13/2021 5:19 AM, Leo Bado wrote:
Hi, I don't know exactly what you want, but have you tried Backpack Studio?

Best,
Leo Bado.

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul Auster. "City of Glass"

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2021 6:21 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] voice recording apps for IPhone

Hi all,

Does anyone know of better accessible voice recording apps for the IPhone? The voice memos app records in mono, and doesn't offer anything other than 64k and wav quality. The newer IPhones come with a second microphone. Are any apps able to use it?











Re: personal settings in Windows10

John Holcomb II
 

Telling folks what Windows 7 does is not helpful when they aren’t using that OS. For one thing Windows 10 doesn’t call anything a program.

In Windows 10, tap the windows key. Type default. The very first option that comes up is choose a default  web browser.

Hit enter  once that is spoken.

It’ll say Choose default app: Microsoft edge  button (As MS Edge is my default browser in my case.)

Now hit  the space bar  and that will let you change the default browser.

Once you hit  space it’ll say

Choose an App  Choose an app, Microsoft edge button.

Next  tab. In my case I cycle around the browser choices which is Firefox or internet explorer.

If I choose Firefox, MS comes up with a popup which states their browser is new and I should check it out. Tabbing in this popup dialog will give you the choice to switch anyway button , or check it out!  Button.

If I hit space on switch anyway, then my browser is set to Firefox (since that is the one I chose.)

It’ll say Choose Default app:  Firefox now.

So yeah…. again. Its not the same as Windows 7.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] personal settings in Windows10

 

I did that, and when I found the link that said “set default programs”, I hit enter, and it seemed like it thought it was setting default programs, and said nothing was there.  I think it had expected me to put something in there.  Pam.

 

From: Gene

Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 11:24 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] personal settings in Windows10

 

I don’t know the procedure in Windows 10.  But if you open default programs in the start menu search results, then tab around, you are in a part of control panel in Windows 7, you will find a link that says something like set default programs.  Follow it and see what is there.  I found the link but I didn’t go further.  Ask if you have questions or problems.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 10:10 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] personal settings in Windows10

 

This didn’t work for me.  Pam.

 

Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 9:32 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] personal settings in Windows10

 

 

It is not necessary to go through all these steps to get to default apps.  Just type "default" into the Windows 10 search box, select default apps, and tab through the list of browsers until you land on Google Chrome and select it to make it your default browser.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 8/1/2021 9:18 AM, George McCoy wrote:

Press windows + i to enter settings.

tab once to the list of settings.

press right arrow until you find apps and press enter.

Tab once to the list of app settings.

Down arrow once to default apps and press enter.

Tab through the default apps until you find web browser and click the button.

As you tab through, the current default app is listed.

Tab to the browser you want to use as your default and click the button.

Close settings.


Hth,

George


On 8/1/2021 8:03 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:

Morning all,

I want to make Google Chrome my default browser.  I looked through my tech folder and I can't find the instructions.  Somebody here gave excellent instructions some time back, and I thought I saved them, but I didn't.

I want to go to personal settings in Windows10 and make Google Chrome my default browser.  Can anybody help?

Ann P.





 

Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: personal settings in Windows10

Pamela Dominguez
 

Okay, thanks.  I’ll try this.  I need to change my default browser.  Pam.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] personal settings in Windows10
 
After you follow the link, wait a while, perhaps even two minutes to see if the list appears.  Windows, at least in Windows 7 on my machine, takes awhile to find all the programs and display the list.
 
Tab around the dialog off and on to see if the list appears.  I hadn’t used that feature but when I tried it in response to your message, that is what happened.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] personal settings in Windows10
 
I did that, and when I found the link that said “set default programs”, I hit enter, and it seemed like it thought it was setting default programs, and said nothing was there.  I think it had expected me to put something in there.  Pam.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] personal settings in Windows10
 
I don’t know the procedure in Windows 10.  But if you open default programs in the start menu search results, then tab around, you are in a part of control panel in Windows 7, you will find a link that says something like set default programs.  Follow it and see what is there.  I found the link but I didn’t go further.  Ask if you have questions or problems.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] personal settings in Windows10
 
This didn’t work for me.  Pam.
 
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] personal settings in Windows10
 

 

It is not necessary to go through all these steps to get to default apps.  Just type "default" into the Windows 10 search box, select default apps, and tab through the list of browsers until you land on Google Chrome and select it to make it your default browser.

 

Gerald



On 8/1/2021 9:18 AM, George McCoy wrote:
Press windows + i to enter settings.

tab once to the list of settings.

press right arrow until you find apps and press enter.

Tab once to the list of app settings.

Down arrow once to default apps and press enter.

Tab through the default apps until you find web browser and click the button.

As you tab through, the current default app is listed.

Tab to the browser you want to use as your default and click the button.

Close settings.


Hth,

George


On 8/1/2021 8:03 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Morning all,

I want to make Google Chrome my default browser.  I looked through my tech folder and I can't find the instructions.  Somebody here gave excellent instructions some time back, and I thought I saved them, but I didn't.

I want to go to personal settings in Windows10 and make Google Chrome my default browser.  Can anybody help?

Ann P.







Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: personal settings in Windows10

Gene
 

After you follow the link, wait a while, perhaps even two minutes to see if the list appears.  Windows, at least in Windows 7 on my machine, takes awhile to find all the programs and display the list.
 
Tab around the dialog off and on to see if the list appears.  I hadn’t used that feature but when I tried it in response to your message, that is what happened.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] personal settings in Windows10
 
I did that, and when I found the link that said “set default programs”, I hit enter, and it seemed like it thought it was setting default programs, and said nothing was there.  I think it had expected me to put something in there.  Pam.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] personal settings in Windows10
 
I don’t know the procedure in Windows 10.  But if you open default programs in the start menu search results, then tab around, you are in a part of control panel in Windows 7, you will find a link that says something like set default programs.  Follow it and see what is there.  I found the link but I didn’t go further.  Ask if you have questions or problems.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] personal settings in Windows10
 
This didn’t work for me.  Pam.
 
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] personal settings in Windows10
 

 

It is not necessary to go through all these steps to get to default apps.  Just type "default" into the Windows 10 search box, select default apps, and tab through the list of browsers until you land on Google Chrome and select it to make it your default browser.

 

Gerald



On 8/1/2021 9:18 AM, George McCoy wrote:
Press windows + i to enter settings.

tab once to the list of settings.

press right arrow until you find apps and press enter.

Tab once to the list of app settings.

Down arrow once to default apps and press enter.

Tab through the default apps until you find web browser and click the button.

As you tab through, the current default app is listed.

Tab to the browser you want to use as your default and click the button.

Close settings.


Hth,

George


On 8/1/2021 8:03 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Morning all,

I want to make Google Chrome my default browser.  I looked through my tech folder and I can't find the instructions.  Somebody here gave excellent instructions some time back, and I thought I saved them, but I didn't.

I want to go to personal settings in Windows10 and make Google Chrome my default browser.  Can anybody help?

Ann P.







Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: personal settings in Windows10

Pamela Dominguez
 

I did that, and when I found the link that said “set default programs”, I hit enter, and it seemed like it thought it was setting default programs, and said nothing was there.  I think it had expected me to put something in there.  Pam.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] personal settings in Windows10
 
I don’t know the procedure in Windows 10.  But if you open default programs in the start menu search results, then tab around, you are in a part of control panel in Windows 7, you will find a link that says something like set default programs.  Follow it and see what is there.  I found the link but I didn’t go further.  Ask if you have questions or problems.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] personal settings in Windows10
 
This didn’t work for me.  Pam.
 
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2021 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] personal settings in Windows10
 

 

It is not necessary to go through all these steps to get to default apps.  Just type "default" into the Windows 10 search box, select default apps, and tab through the list of browsers until you land on Google Chrome and select it to make it your default browser.

 

Gerald



On 8/1/2021 9:18 AM, George McCoy wrote:
Press windows + i to enter settings.

tab once to the list of settings.

press right arrow until you find apps and press enter.

Tab once to the list of app settings.

Down arrow once to default apps and press enter.

Tab through the default apps until you find web browser and click the button.

As you tab through, the current default app is listed.

Tab to the browser you want to use as your default and click the button.

Close settings.


Hth,

George


On 8/1/2021 8:03 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Morning all,

I want to make Google Chrome my default browser.  I looked through my tech folder and I can't find the instructions.  Somebody here gave excellent instructions some time back, and I thought I saved them, but I didn't.

I want to go to personal settings in Windows10 and make Google Chrome my default browser.  Can anybody help?

Ann P.







Virus-free. www.avg.com


possible gmail/Outlook issue

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
A couple of weeks ago I changed some of my preferences for a newsletter that I'm
subscribed too and after I did that I got a message saying that I'd get an email
confirming the changes but I never received it (and yes I checked my spam
folder). So then I got to wondering if there have been any other emails that
have been sent to me that I haven't gotten. So I'm wondering, are there any
settings in either gmail or Outlook that I can check or that I might need to
change to insure that I receive all emails that are sent to me? Using latest
versions of Jaws, Office 365 and Windows 10 and using firefox. Really hope
someone can help!! Thanks
Madison


Re: Remap a key

chris judge
 

I’d like to know that as well. I have a dell keyboard that has 2 function keys, one on the left between the control and windows keys, and one on the right between the alt and application keys.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: September 15, 2021 2:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Remap a key

 

I have a keyboard that came with a dell desktop computer. It has a FN key on the right where the right windows key is on most keyboards. I was wondering if this key could be remapped to a Windows key?


Re: Remap a key

Mike B.
 

Hi Loy,
 
I've never used this app so I don't know if it's accessible or not, but let us know how it works, if it does.
 
 
How to remap Fn key Windows?
 
To reassign a key
list of 5 items
1.  Download and install the, Microsoft Mouse and Keyboard Center, link below.
 
 
2.  Connect the keyboard that you want to configure.
 
3.  Select the Start  button, and then select Microsoft Mouse and Keyboard Center.
 
4.  From the displayed list of key names, select the key that you want to reassign.
 
5.  In the command list of the key that you want to reassign, select a command.
list end

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Loy
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 10:18 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] Remap a key

I have a keyboard that came with a dell desktop computer. It has a FN key on the right where the right windows key is on most keyboards. I was wondering if this key could be remapped to a Windows key?


Remap a key

Loy
 

I have a keyboard that came with a dell desktop computer. It has a FN key on the right where the right windows key is on most keyboards. I was wondering if this key could be remapped to a Windows key?


Re: Braille Displays

chris judge
 

Quite welcome

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor
Sent: September 15, 2021 11:03 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

Hi Chris:

Thank you for the information about the carrying case. That’s good to know.

Thank you for the link to that tutorial. I recently read about that tutorial in an E newsletter I get. I’ve download it.

Thanks again,

Victor
On Sep 15, 2021, at 4:39 AM, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:

It is. I don't really care for the case that comes with it. It's a rubbery surround that has no cover for the keyboard and braille cells, and no carrying strap. I'm going to purchase a leather case from executive products. I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

FYI. Mystic Access just did a free tutorial on using the Mantis. It's excellent as are all their material. Here is a direct link to download it.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y440b5a4bxkf6ir/APHMantisQ40MP3AudioDocument
ation.zip?dl=1

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Victor
Sent: September 15, 2021 6:15 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

That’s good. Is it a pretty rugged device? Is it made of sturdy and strong material?

Thanks,

Victor
On Sep 15, 2021, at 1:53 AM, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes I have no complaints with my Mantis.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Victor
Sent: September 15, 2021 5:41 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

As you read the braille on the device, is it a smooth transition reading line by line and sentence by sentence? That would help too while reading and recording audio.

Thanks,

Victor
On Sep 15, 2021, at 1:11 AM, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes it is. I have one and love it.


Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Victor
Sent: September 15, 2021 4:10 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

Hi:

Is the mantis braille display quiet? I’m asking because I work in radio broadcasting and audio editing. I don’t need a noisy braille display making noise in the background while recording something. I need something that’s quiet so as not to interfere with the recording. Just wondering.

Thanks,

Victor
On Apr 9, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Pat Seed <patatips@tbaytel.net> wrote:
Hi Pam and All,
I Remember the Versa-Braille run by cassette!

That is what I started with, along with the PMC101 Micromate run on DOS and CP/M!

Of course, (with smiles), we realize, that dates all of us who remember and used this technology.

Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat Seed
(807) 473-0909

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Dominguez"
<pammygirl99@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays


The first refreshable braille I saw was the original versabraille that used cassettes for the data. I remember going to a lecture on it, and wondering: "Braille on a cassette?" They also gave out a thermoformed handout which I had in my junk for quight a while. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: chris judge
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 4:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I think the first refreshable Braille display I used was an alva 80. It was the size of a table top and cost around 15 grand.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Monte Single
Sent: April 7, 2021 1:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I started working for the local school board in 89, producing hard copy braille on a perkins brailler.
I recall a student having a versabraille, maybe one of the first ones with a braille display; maybe it was 20 cells.
I do not recall the price, but it was thousands of dollars.


That was over thirty years ago and braille displays are still big ticket items.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Cristóbal
Sent: April 6, 2021 10:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I am reluctant to invest so much money on any Android based display or note taker. When you start talking about five or six thousand dollar devices, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to be able to use such a device for many many years. Being Android based as some of these newer devices are, that's just simply not going to be the case.
I made a similar argument to Brian Hartgen over Twitter when he was touting the Polaris a a business friendly device. He dismissed me at first saying that he was speaking as a business owner and that the price tag hesitancy thing was lazy thinking or some such thing and when I informed him that I too was a business owner and still wasn't sold on the price tag, he blocked me. Talk about thin skinned.... But hey, at least he had the "manners" to tell me that he was going to block me before he did so... What a swell guy. Some people.
Back in 2011, I was debating whether to get an Apex that was almost $6000 but instead opted for a 40 cell Brailliant BI and iPad and iPhone. That Brailliant lasted me over ten years and hung around outlasting something like 5 iPhone models and three iPads. Granted, the iOS and Braille experience wasn't always the best, but combining the display with various iOS devices over the years at least in my mind, gave me way more productivity and more bang for my buck than a display where the OS traditionally isn't supported for maybe more than three or four years.
Even then, the Apex would've lasted way longer than some of these newer Smart note taker/display hybrids.
I recently scored a Freedom Scientific F80 Braille display on eBay for $305. I first wrote the seller asking if everything worked, and they replied that yes, all cells, connectors and buttons were functional. I had my sighted wife look at the pictures and she was able to read me the serial number off of the display. I called Vispero and asked about its history and if it had ever been serviced and I was informed that it was serviced and cleaned back in 2016. The 80 cell display was from back in 2006. This thing is huge. I'm talking a beast of a display, but so far, so good. I've got it set up at my desktop workstation and now I've got a fully functional 80 cell display that back in the day went for almost $8000. Side note, looks like this seller's got some sort of hookup or something. At the time that I purchased it, they had two devices up for sale. Since then, I believe they've posted four more 80 cell displays. Again for roughly $300. Keep in mind, you're talking about devices that are really long in the tooth, so buyer beware and all that. Their postings are easy enough to find. You just have to search for Braille display or something along those lines. There aren't too many on at any given time.
I still have the Brailliant BI 40, but it's a refurbished model Humanware provided me as a replacement for my old display that I sent in late last year to be fixed, but got lost by UPS. Fine by me. It cost me nothing and now my Brailliant was at least serviced and inspected by Humanware.
I'm thinking of selling my Brailliant and putting that money towards either a Mantis 40 cell display or the Orbit Reader 40. I'm more inclined to opt for a device that's maybe dumber as far as on board connectivity, but that I know I can use for many years to come and not have to worry about it slowing down or not being able to keep up with the demands that innovation sometimes brings and just act as a display with maybe some built in file management features. I mean, if I want Internet connectivity and all those bells and whistles, that's what a smart phone or tablet and Bluetooth connections are for.
Just my two cents.





Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Joe Orozco
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

The great thing about Humanware products is the ability to pay in
installments. I don’t think APH offers this flexibility. If I can
throw one more product into the mix, it would be the new Braille
Sense
6 from HIMS. It’s far and away the most expensive of the displays mentioned here at $5,795, but HIMS now also offers payment plans.

Here’s the link in case it’s of interest:

https://hims-inc.com/bs6

Best,

Joe



On 3/31/21, Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@gmail.com> wrote:
The Brailliant BI 20X does open Word files, but if you edit
them, it saves them as text files. I hope that helps.
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Re: Braille Displays

Victor
 

Hi Chris:

Thank you for the information about the carrying case. That’s good to know.

Thank you for the link to that tutorial. I recently read about that tutorial in an E newsletter I get. I’ve download it.

Thanks again,

Victor

On Sep 15, 2021, at 4:39 AM, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:

It is. I don't really care for the case that comes with it. It's a rubbery surround that has no cover for the keyboard and braille cells, and no carrying strap. I'm going to purchase a leather case from executive products. I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

FYI. Mystic Access just did a free tutorial on using the Mantis. It's excellent as are all their material. Here is a direct link to download it.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y440b5a4bxkf6ir/APHMantisQ40MP3AudioDocumentation.zip?dl=1

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor
Sent: September 15, 2021 6:15 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

That’s good. Is it a pretty rugged device? Is it made of sturdy and strong material?

Thanks,

Victor
On Sep 15, 2021, at 1:53 AM, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes I have no complaints with my Mantis.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Victor
Sent: September 15, 2021 5:41 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

As you read the braille on the device, is it a smooth transition reading line by line and sentence by sentence? That would help too while reading and recording audio.

Thanks,

Victor
On Sep 15, 2021, at 1:11 AM, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes it is. I have one and love it.


Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Victor
Sent: September 15, 2021 4:10 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

Hi:

Is the mantis braille display quiet? I’m asking because I work in radio broadcasting and audio editing. I don’t need a noisy braille display making noise in the background while recording something. I need something that’s quiet so as not to interfere with the recording. Just wondering.

Thanks,

Victor
On Apr 9, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Pat Seed <patatips@tbaytel.net> wrote:
Hi Pam and All,
I Remember the Versa-Braille run by cassette!

That is what I started with, along with the PMC101 Micromate run on DOS and CP/M!

Of course, (with smiles), we realize, that dates all of us who remember and used this technology.

Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat Seed
(807) 473-0909

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Dominguez"
<pammygirl99@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays


The first refreshable braille I saw was the original versabraille that used cassettes for the data. I remember going to a lecture on it, and wondering: "Braille on a cassette?" They also gave out a thermoformed handout which I had in my junk for quight a while. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: chris judge
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 4:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I think the first refreshable Braille display I used was an alva 80. It was the size of a table top and cost around 15 grand.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Monte Single
Sent: April 7, 2021 1:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I started working for the local school board in 89, producing hard copy braille on a perkins brailler.
I recall a student having a versabraille, maybe one of the first ones with a braille display; maybe it was 20 cells.
I do not recall the price, but it was thousands of dollars.


That was over thirty years ago and braille displays are still big ticket items.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Cristóbal
Sent: April 6, 2021 10:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I am reluctant to invest so much money on any Android based display or note taker. When you start talking about five or six thousand dollar devices, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to be able to use such a device for many many years. Being Android based as some of these newer devices are, that's just simply not going to be the case.
I made a similar argument to Brian Hartgen over Twitter when he was touting the Polaris a a business friendly device. He dismissed me at first saying that he was speaking as a business owner and that the price tag hesitancy thing was lazy thinking or some such thing and when I informed him that I too was a business owner and still wasn't sold on the price tag, he blocked me. Talk about thin skinned.... But hey, at least he had the "manners" to tell me that he was going to block me before he did so... What a swell guy. Some people.
Back in 2011, I was debating whether to get an Apex that was almost $6000 but instead opted for a 40 cell Brailliant BI and iPad and iPhone. That Brailliant lasted me over ten years and hung around outlasting something like 5 iPhone models and three iPads. Granted, the iOS and Braille experience wasn't always the best, but combining the display with various iOS devices over the years at least in my mind, gave me way more productivity and more bang for my buck than a display where the OS traditionally isn't supported for maybe more than three or four years.
Even then, the Apex would've lasted way longer than some of these newer Smart note taker/display hybrids.
I recently scored a Freedom Scientific F80 Braille display on eBay for $305. I first wrote the seller asking if everything worked, and they replied that yes, all cells, connectors and buttons were functional. I had my sighted wife look at the pictures and she was able to read me the serial number off of the display. I called Vispero and asked about its history and if it had ever been serviced and I was informed that it was serviced and cleaned back in 2016. The 80 cell display was from back in 2006. This thing is huge. I'm talking a beast of a display, but so far, so good. I've got it set up at my desktop workstation and now I've got a fully functional 80 cell display that back in the day went for almost $8000. Side note, looks like this seller's got some sort of hookup or something. At the time that I purchased it, they had two devices up for sale. Since then, I believe they've posted four more 80 cell displays. Again for roughly $300. Keep in mind, you're talking about devices that are really long in the tooth, so buyer beware and all that. Their postings are easy enough to find. You just have to search for Braille display or something along those lines. There aren't too many on at any given time.
I still have the Brailliant BI 40, but it's a refurbished model Humanware provided me as a replacement for my old display that I sent in late last year to be fixed, but got lost by UPS. Fine by me. It cost me nothing and now my Brailliant was at least serviced and inspected by Humanware.
I'm thinking of selling my Brailliant and putting that money towards either a Mantis 40 cell display or the Orbit Reader 40. I'm more inclined to opt for a device that's maybe dumber as far as on board connectivity, but that I know I can use for many years to come and not have to worry about it slowing down or not being able to keep up with the demands that innovation sometimes brings and just act as a display with maybe some built in file management features. I mean, if I want Internet connectivity and all those bells and whistles, that's what a smart phone or tablet and Bluetooth connections are for.
Just my two cents.





Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Joe Orozco
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

The great thing about Humanware products is the ability to pay in
installments. I don’t think APH offers this flexibility. If I can
throw one more product into the mix, it would be the new Braille
Sense
6 from HIMS. It’s far and away the most expensive of the displays mentioned here at $5,795, but HIMS now also offers payment plans.

Here’s the link in case it’s of interest:

https://hims-inc.com/bs6

Best,

Joe



On 3/31/21, Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@gmail.com> wrote:
The Brailliant BI 20X does open Word files, but if you edit them,
it saves them as text files. I hope that helps.
--

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http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@gmail.com




























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Re: Braille Displays

chris judge
 

It is. I don't really care for the case that comes with it. It's a rubbery surround that has no cover for the keyboard and braille cells, and no carrying strap. I'm going to purchase a leather case from executive products. I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

FYI. Mystic Access just did a free tutorial on using the Mantis. It's excellent as are all their material. Here is a direct link to download it.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y440b5a4bxkf6ir/APHMantisQ40MP3AudioDocumentation.zip?dl=1

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor
Sent: September 15, 2021 6:15 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

That’s good. Is it a pretty rugged device? Is it made of sturdy and strong material?

Thanks,

Victor
On Sep 15, 2021, at 1:53 AM, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes I have no complaints with my Mantis.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Victor
Sent: September 15, 2021 5:41 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

As you read the braille on the device, is it a smooth transition reading line by line and sentence by sentence? That would help too while reading and recording audio.

Thanks,

Victor
On Sep 15, 2021, at 1:11 AM, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes it is. I have one and love it.


Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Victor
Sent: September 15, 2021 4:10 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

Hi:

Is the mantis braille display quiet? I’m asking because I work in radio broadcasting and audio editing. I don’t need a noisy braille display making noise in the background while recording something. I need something that’s quiet so as not to interfere with the recording. Just wondering.

Thanks,

Victor
On Apr 9, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Pat Seed <patatips@tbaytel.net> wrote:
Hi Pam and All,
I Remember the Versa-Braille run by cassette!

That is what I started with, along with the PMC101 Micromate run on DOS and CP/M!

Of course, (with smiles), we realize, that dates all of us who remember and used this technology.

Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat Seed
(807) 473-0909

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Dominguez"
<pammygirl99@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays


The first refreshable braille I saw was the original versabraille that used cassettes for the data. I remember going to a lecture on it, and wondering: "Braille on a cassette?" They also gave out a thermoformed handout which I had in my junk for quight a while. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: chris judge
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 4:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I think the first refreshable Braille display I used was an alva 80. It was the size of a table top and cost around 15 grand.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Monte Single
Sent: April 7, 2021 1:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I started working for the local school board in 89, producing hard copy braille on a perkins brailler.
I recall a student having a versabraille, maybe one of the first ones with a braille display; maybe it was 20 cells.
I do not recall the price, but it was thousands of dollars.


That was over thirty years ago and braille displays are still big ticket items.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Cristóbal
Sent: April 6, 2021 10:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I am reluctant to invest so much money on any Android based display or note taker. When you start talking about five or six thousand dollar devices, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to be able to use such a device for many many years. Being Android based as some of these newer devices are, that's just simply not going to be the case.
I made a similar argument to Brian Hartgen over Twitter when he was touting the Polaris a a business friendly device. He dismissed me at first saying that he was speaking as a business owner and that the price tag hesitancy thing was lazy thinking or some such thing and when I informed him that I too was a business owner and still wasn't sold on the price tag, he blocked me. Talk about thin skinned.... But hey, at least he had the "manners" to tell me that he was going to block me before he did so... What a swell guy. Some people.
Back in 2011, I was debating whether to get an Apex that was almost $6000 but instead opted for a 40 cell Brailliant BI and iPad and iPhone. That Brailliant lasted me over ten years and hung around outlasting something like 5 iPhone models and three iPads. Granted, the iOS and Braille experience wasn't always the best, but combining the display with various iOS devices over the years at least in my mind, gave me way more productivity and more bang for my buck than a display where the OS traditionally isn't supported for maybe more than three or four years.
Even then, the Apex would've lasted way longer than some of these newer Smart note taker/display hybrids.
I recently scored a Freedom Scientific F80 Braille display on eBay for $305. I first wrote the seller asking if everything worked, and they replied that yes, all cells, connectors and buttons were functional. I had my sighted wife look at the pictures and she was able to read me the serial number off of the display. I called Vispero and asked about its history and if it had ever been serviced and I was informed that it was serviced and cleaned back in 2016. The 80 cell display was from back in 2006. This thing is huge. I'm talking a beast of a display, but so far, so good. I've got it set up at my desktop workstation and now I've got a fully functional 80 cell display that back in the day went for almost $8000. Side note, looks like this seller's got some sort of hookup or something. At the time that I purchased it, they had two devices up for sale. Since then, I believe they've posted four more 80 cell displays. Again for roughly $300. Keep in mind, you're talking about devices that are really long in the tooth, so buyer beware and all that. Their postings are easy enough to find. You just have to search for Braille display or something along those lines. There aren't too many on at any given time.
I still have the Brailliant BI 40, but it's a refurbished model Humanware provided me as a replacement for my old display that I sent in late last year to be fixed, but got lost by UPS. Fine by me. It cost me nothing and now my Brailliant was at least serviced and inspected by Humanware.
I'm thinking of selling my Brailliant and putting that money towards either a Mantis 40 cell display or the Orbit Reader 40. I'm more inclined to opt for a device that's maybe dumber as far as on board connectivity, but that I know I can use for many years to come and not have to worry about it slowing down or not being able to keep up with the demands that innovation sometimes brings and just act as a display with maybe some built in file management features. I mean, if I want Internet connectivity and all those bells and whistles, that's what a smart phone or tablet and Bluetooth connections are for.
Just my two cents.





Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Joe Orozco
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

The great thing about Humanware products is the ability to pay in
installments. I don’t think APH offers this flexibility. If I can
throw one more product into the mix, it would be the new Braille
Sense
6 from HIMS. It’s far and away the most expensive of the displays mentioned here at $5,795, but HIMS now also offers payment plans.

Here’s the link in case it’s of interest:

https://hims-inc.com/bs6

Best,

Joe



On 3/31/21, Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@gmail.com> wrote:
The Brailliant BI 20X does open Word files, but if you edit them,
it saves them as text files. I hope that helps.
--

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@gmail.com




























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Re: Braille Displays

Victor
 

That’s good. Is it a pretty rugged device? Is it made of sturdy and strong material?

Thanks,

Victor

On Sep 15, 2021, at 1:53 AM, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes I have no complaints with my Mantis.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor
Sent: September 15, 2021 5:41 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

As you read the braille on the device, is it a smooth transition reading line by line and sentence by sentence? That would help too while reading and recording audio.

Thanks,

Victor
On Sep 15, 2021, at 1:11 AM, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes it is. I have one and love it.


Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Victor
Sent: September 15, 2021 4:10 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

Hi:

Is the mantis braille display quiet? I’m asking because I work in radio broadcasting and audio editing. I don’t need a noisy braille display making noise in the background while recording something. I need something that’s quiet so as not to interfere with the recording. Just wondering.

Thanks,

Victor
On Apr 9, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Pat Seed <patatips@tbaytel.net> wrote:
Hi Pam and All,
I Remember the Versa-Braille run by cassette!

That is what I started with, along with the PMC101 Micromate run on DOS and CP/M!

Of course, (with smiles), we realize, that dates all of us who remember and used this technology.

Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat Seed
(807) 473-0909

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Dominguez"
<pammygirl99@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays


The first refreshable braille I saw was the original versabraille that used cassettes for the data. I remember going to a lecture on it, and wondering: "Braille on a cassette?" They also gave out a thermoformed handout which I had in my junk for quight a while. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: chris judge
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 4:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I think the first refreshable Braille display I used was an alva 80. It was the size of a table top and cost around 15 grand.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Monte Single
Sent: April 7, 2021 1:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I started working for the local school board in 89, producing hard copy braille on a perkins brailler.
I recall a student having a versabraille, maybe one of the first ones with a braille display; maybe it was 20 cells.
I do not recall the price, but it was thousands of dollars.


That was over thirty years ago and braille displays are still big ticket items.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristóbal
Sent: April 6, 2021 10:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I am reluctant to invest so much money on any Android based display or note taker. When you start talking about five or six thousand dollar devices, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to be able to use such a device for many many years. Being Android based as some of these newer devices are, that's just simply not going to be the case.
I made a similar argument to Brian Hartgen over Twitter when he was touting the Polaris a a business friendly device. He dismissed me at first saying that he was speaking as a business owner and that the price tag hesitancy thing was lazy thinking or some such thing and when I informed him that I too was a business owner and still wasn't sold on the price tag, he blocked me. Talk about thin skinned.... But hey, at least he had the "manners" to tell me that he was going to block me before he did so... What a swell guy. Some people.
Back in 2011, I was debating whether to get an Apex that was almost $6000 but instead opted for a 40 cell Brailliant BI and iPad and iPhone. That Brailliant lasted me over ten years and hung around outlasting something like 5 iPhone models and three iPads. Granted, the iOS and Braille experience wasn't always the best, but combining the display with various iOS devices over the years at least in my mind, gave me way more productivity and more bang for my buck than a display where the OS traditionally isn't supported for maybe more than three or four years.
Even then, the Apex would've lasted way longer than some of these newer Smart note taker/display hybrids.
I recently scored a Freedom Scientific F80 Braille display on eBay for $305. I first wrote the seller asking if everything worked, and they replied that yes, all cells, connectors and buttons were functional. I had my sighted wife look at the pictures and she was able to read me the serial number off of the display. I called Vispero and asked about its history and if it had ever been serviced and I was informed that it was serviced and cleaned back in 2016. The 80 cell display was from back in 2006. This thing is huge. I'm talking a beast of a display, but so far, so good. I've got it set up at my desktop workstation and now I've got a fully functional 80 cell display that back in the day went for almost $8000. Side note, looks like this seller's got some sort of hookup or something. At the time that I purchased it, they had two devices up for sale. Since then, I believe they've posted four more 80 cell displays. Again for roughly $300. Keep in mind, you're talking about devices that are really long in the tooth, so buyer beware and all that. Their postings are easy enough to find. You just have to search for Braille display or something along those lines. There aren't too many on at any given time.
I still have the Brailliant BI 40, but it's a refurbished model Humanware provided me as a replacement for my old display that I sent in late last year to be fixed, but got lost by UPS. Fine by me. It cost me nothing and now my Brailliant was at least serviced and inspected by Humanware.
I'm thinking of selling my Brailliant and putting that money towards either a Mantis 40 cell display or the Orbit Reader 40. I'm more inclined to opt for a device that's maybe dumber as far as on board connectivity, but that I know I can use for many years to come and not have to worry about it slowing down or not being able to keep up with the demands that innovation sometimes brings and just act as a display with maybe some built in file management features. I mean, if I want Internet connectivity and all those bells and whistles, that's what a smart phone or tablet and Bluetooth connections are for.
Just my two cents.





Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Joe Orozco
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

The great thing about Humanware products is the ability to pay in
installments. I don’t think APH offers this flexibility. If I can
throw one more product into the mix, it would be the new Braille
Sense
6 from HIMS. It’s far and away the most expensive of the displays mentioned here at $5,795, but HIMS now also offers payment plans.

Here’s the link in case it’s of interest:

https://hims-inc.com/bs6

Best,

Joe



On 3/31/21, Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@gmail.com> wrote:
The Brailliant BI 20X does open Word files, but if you edit them,
it saves them as text files. I hope that helps.
--

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@gmail.com




























--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com


























Re: Braille Displays

chris judge
 

Yes I have no complaints with my Mantis.

Chris Judge

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor
Sent: September 15, 2021 5:41 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

As you read the braille on the device, is it a smooth transition reading line by line and sentence by sentence? That would help too while reading and recording audio.

Thanks,

Victor
On Sep 15, 2021, at 1:11 AM, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes it is. I have one and love it.


Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Victor
Sent: September 15, 2021 4:10 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

Hi:

Is the mantis braille display quiet? I’m asking because I work in radio broadcasting and audio editing. I don’t need a noisy braille display making noise in the background while recording something. I need something that’s quiet so as not to interfere with the recording. Just wondering.

Thanks,

Victor
On Apr 9, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Pat Seed <patatips@tbaytel.net> wrote:

Hi Pam and All,
I Remember the Versa-Braille run by cassette!

That is what I started with, along with the PMC101 Micromate run on DOS and CP/M!

Of course, (with smiles), we realize, that dates all of us who remember and used this technology.

Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat Seed
(807) 473-0909

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Dominguez"
<pammygirl99@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays


The first refreshable braille I saw was the original versabraille that used cassettes for the data. I remember going to a lecture on it, and wondering: "Braille on a cassette?" They also gave out a thermoformed handout which I had in my junk for quight a while. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: chris judge
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 4:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I think the first refreshable Braille display I used was an alva 80. It was the size of a table top and cost around 15 grand.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Monte Single
Sent: April 7, 2021 1:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I started working for the local school board in 89, producing hard copy braille on a perkins brailler.
I recall a student having a versabraille, maybe one of the first ones with a braille display; maybe it was 20 cells.
I do not recall the price, but it was thousands of dollars.


That was over thirty years ago and braille displays are still big ticket items.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristóbal
Sent: April 6, 2021 10:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I am reluctant to invest so much money on any Android based display or note taker. When you start talking about five or six thousand dollar devices, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to be able to use such a device for many many years. Being Android based as some of these newer devices are, that's just simply not going to be the case.
I made a similar argument to Brian Hartgen over Twitter when he was touting the Polaris a a business friendly device. He dismissed me at first saying that he was speaking as a business owner and that the price tag hesitancy thing was lazy thinking or some such thing and when I informed him that I too was a business owner and still wasn't sold on the price tag, he blocked me. Talk about thin skinned.... But hey, at least he had the "manners" to tell me that he was going to block me before he did so... What a swell guy. Some people.
Back in 2011, I was debating whether to get an Apex that was almost $6000 but instead opted for a 40 cell Brailliant BI and iPad and iPhone. That Brailliant lasted me over ten years and hung around outlasting something like 5 iPhone models and three iPads. Granted, the iOS and Braille experience wasn't always the best, but combining the display with various iOS devices over the years at least in my mind, gave me way more productivity and more bang for my buck than a display where the OS traditionally isn't supported for maybe more than three or four years.
Even then, the Apex would've lasted way longer than some of these newer Smart note taker/display hybrids.
I recently scored a Freedom Scientific F80 Braille display on eBay for $305. I first wrote the seller asking if everything worked, and they replied that yes, all cells, connectors and buttons were functional. I had my sighted wife look at the pictures and she was able to read me the serial number off of the display. I called Vispero and asked about its history and if it had ever been serviced and I was informed that it was serviced and cleaned back in 2016. The 80 cell display was from back in 2006. This thing is huge. I'm talking a beast of a display, but so far, so good. I've got it set up at my desktop workstation and now I've got a fully functional 80 cell display that back in the day went for almost $8000. Side note, looks like this seller's got some sort of hookup or something. At the time that I purchased it, they had two devices up for sale. Since then, I believe they've posted four more 80 cell displays. Again for roughly $300. Keep in mind, you're talking about devices that are really long in the tooth, so buyer beware and all that. Their postings are easy enough to find. You just have to search for Braille display or something along those lines. There aren't too many on at any given time.
I still have the Brailliant BI 40, but it's a refurbished model Humanware provided me as a replacement for my old display that I sent in late last year to be fixed, but got lost by UPS. Fine by me. It cost me nothing and now my Brailliant was at least serviced and inspected by Humanware.
I'm thinking of selling my Brailliant and putting that money towards either a Mantis 40 cell display or the Orbit Reader 40. I'm more inclined to opt for a device that's maybe dumber as far as on board connectivity, but that I know I can use for many years to come and not have to worry about it slowing down or not being able to keep up with the demands that innovation sometimes brings and just act as a display with maybe some built in file management features. I mean, if I want Internet connectivity and all those bells and whistles, that's what a smart phone or tablet and Bluetooth connections are for.
Just my two cents.





Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Joe Orozco
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

The great thing about Humanware products is the ability to pay in
installments. I don’t think APH offers this flexibility. If I can
throw one more product into the mix, it would be the new Braille
Sense
6 from HIMS. It’s far and away the most expensive of the displays mentioned here at $5,795, but HIMS now also offers payment plans.

Here’s the link in case it’s of interest:

https://hims-inc.com/bs6

Best,

Joe



On 3/31/21, Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@gmail.com> wrote:
The Brailliant BI 20X does open Word files, but if you edit them,
it saves them as text files. I hope that helps.
--

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@gmail.com




























--
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com

















Re: Braille Displays

Victor
 

As you read the braille on the device, is it a smooth transition reading line by line and sentence by sentence? That would help too while reading and recording audio.

Thanks,

Victor

On Sep 15, 2021, at 1:11 AM, chris judge <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes it is. I have one and love it.


Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor
Sent: September 15, 2021 4:10 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

Hi:

Is the mantis braille display quiet? I’m asking because I work in radio broadcasting and audio editing. I don’t need a noisy braille display making noise in the background while recording something. I need something that’s quiet so as not to interfere with the recording. Just wondering.

Thanks,

Victor
On Apr 9, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Pat Seed <patatips@tbaytel.net> wrote:

Hi Pam and All,
I Remember the Versa-Braille run by cassette!

That is what I started with, along with the PMC101 Micromate run on DOS and CP/M!

Of course, (with smiles), we realize, that dates all of us who remember and used this technology.

Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat Seed
(807) 473-0909

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Dominguez"
<pammygirl99@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays


The first refreshable braille I saw was the original versabraille that used cassettes for the data. I remember going to a lecture on it, and wondering: "Braille on a cassette?" They also gave out a thermoformed handout which I had in my junk for quight a while. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: chris judge
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 4:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I think the first refreshable Braille display I used was an alva 80. It was the size of a table top and cost around 15 grand.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Monte Single
Sent: April 7, 2021 1:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I started working for the local school board in 89, producing hard copy braille on a perkins brailler.
I recall a student having a versabraille, maybe one of the first ones with a braille display; maybe it was 20 cells.
I do not recall the price, but it was thousands of dollars.


That was over thirty years ago and braille displays are still big ticket items.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristóbal
Sent: April 6, 2021 10:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I am reluctant to invest so much money on any Android based display or note taker. When you start talking about five or six thousand dollar devices, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to be able to use such a device for many many years. Being Android based as some of these newer devices are, that's just simply not going to be the case.
I made a similar argument to Brian Hartgen over Twitter when he was touting the Polaris a a business friendly device. He dismissed me at first saying that he was speaking as a business owner and that the price tag hesitancy thing was lazy thinking or some such thing and when I informed him that I too was a business owner and still wasn't sold on the price tag, he blocked me. Talk about thin skinned.... But hey, at least he had the "manners" to tell me that he was going to block me before he did so... What a swell guy. Some people.
Back in 2011, I was debating whether to get an Apex that was almost $6000 but instead opted for a 40 cell Brailliant BI and iPad and iPhone. That Brailliant lasted me over ten years and hung around outlasting something like 5 iPhone models and three iPads. Granted, the iOS and Braille experience wasn't always the best, but combining the display with various iOS devices over the years at least in my mind, gave me way more productivity and more bang for my buck than a display where the OS traditionally isn't supported for maybe more than three or four years.
Even then, the Apex would've lasted way longer than some of these newer Smart note taker/display hybrids.
I recently scored a Freedom Scientific F80 Braille display on eBay for $305. I first wrote the seller asking if everything worked, and they replied that yes, all cells, connectors and buttons were functional. I had my sighted wife look at the pictures and she was able to read me the serial number off of the display. I called Vispero and asked about its history and if it had ever been serviced and I was informed that it was serviced and cleaned back in 2016. The 80 cell display was from back in 2006. This thing is huge. I'm talking a beast of a display, but so far, so good. I've got it set up at my desktop workstation and now I've got a fully functional 80 cell display that back in the day went for almost $8000. Side note, looks like this seller's got some sort of hookup or something. At the time that I purchased it, they had two devices up for sale. Since then, I believe they've posted four more 80 cell displays. Again for roughly $300. Keep in mind, you're talking about devices that are really long in the tooth, so buyer beware and all that. Their postings are easy enough to find. You just have to search for Braille display or something along those lines. There aren't too many on at any given time.
I still have the Brailliant BI 40, but it's a refurbished model Humanware provided me as a replacement for my old display that I sent in late last year to be fixed, but got lost by UPS. Fine by me. It cost me nothing and now my Brailliant was at least serviced and inspected by Humanware.
I'm thinking of selling my Brailliant and putting that money towards either a Mantis 40 cell display or the Orbit Reader 40. I'm more inclined to opt for a device that's maybe dumber as far as on board connectivity, but that I know I can use for many years to come and not have to worry about it slowing down or not being able to keep up with the demands that innovation sometimes brings and just act as a display with maybe some built in file management features. I mean, if I want Internet connectivity and all those bells and whistles, that's what a smart phone or tablet and Bluetooth connections are for.
Just my two cents.





Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Joe Orozco
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

The great thing about Humanware products is the ability to pay in
installments. I don’t think APH offers this flexibility. If I can
throw one more product into the mix, it would be the new Braille
Sense
6 from HIMS. It’s far and away the most expensive of the displays mentioned here at $5,795, but HIMS now also offers payment plans.

Here’s the link in case it’s of interest:

https://hims-inc.com/bs6

Best,

Joe



On 3/31/21, Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@gmail.com> wrote:
The Brailliant BI 20X does open Word files, but if you edit them, it
saves them as text files. I hope that helps.
--

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http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@gmail.com




























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Re: Braille Displays

chris judge
 

Yes it is. I have one and love it.


Chris Judge

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Victor
Sent: September 15, 2021 4:10 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

Hi:

Is the mantis braille display quiet? I’m asking because I work in radio broadcasting and audio editing. I don’t need a noisy braille display making noise in the background while recording something. I need something that’s quiet so as not to interfere with the recording. Just wondering.

Thanks,

Victor
On Apr 9, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Pat Seed <patatips@tbaytel.net> wrote:

Hi Pam and All,
I Remember the Versa-Braille run by cassette!

That is what I started with, along with the PMC101 Micromate run on DOS and CP/M!

Of course, (with smiles), we realize, that dates all of us who remember and used this technology.

Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat Seed
(807) 473-0909

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Dominguez"
<pammygirl99@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays


The first refreshable braille I saw was the original versabraille that used cassettes for the data. I remember going to a lecture on it, and wondering: "Braille on a cassette?" They also gave out a thermoformed handout which I had in my junk for quight a while. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: chris judge
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 4:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I think the first refreshable Braille display I used was an alva 80. It was the size of a table top and cost around 15 grand.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Monte Single
Sent: April 7, 2021 1:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I started working for the local school board in 89, producing hard copy braille on a perkins brailler.
I recall a student having a versabraille, maybe one of the first ones with a braille display; maybe it was 20 cells.
I do not recall the price, but it was thousands of dollars.


That was over thirty years ago and braille displays are still big ticket items.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Cristóbal
Sent: April 6, 2021 10:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I am reluctant to invest so much money on any Android based display or note taker. When you start talking about five or six thousand dollar devices, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to be able to use such a device for many many years. Being Android based as some of these newer devices are, that's just simply not going to be the case.
I made a similar argument to Brian Hartgen over Twitter when he was touting the Polaris a a business friendly device. He dismissed me at first saying that he was speaking as a business owner and that the price tag hesitancy thing was lazy thinking or some such thing and when I informed him that I too was a business owner and still wasn't sold on the price tag, he blocked me. Talk about thin skinned.... But hey, at least he had the "manners" to tell me that he was going to block me before he did so... What a swell guy. Some people.
Back in 2011, I was debating whether to get an Apex that was almost $6000 but instead opted for a 40 cell Brailliant BI and iPad and iPhone. That Brailliant lasted me over ten years and hung around outlasting something like 5 iPhone models and three iPads. Granted, the iOS and Braille experience wasn't always the best, but combining the display with various iOS devices over the years at least in my mind, gave me way more productivity and more bang for my buck than a display where the OS traditionally isn't supported for maybe more than three or four years.
Even then, the Apex would've lasted way longer than some of these newer Smart note taker/display hybrids.
I recently scored a Freedom Scientific F80 Braille display on eBay for $305. I first wrote the seller asking if everything worked, and they replied that yes, all cells, connectors and buttons were functional. I had my sighted wife look at the pictures and she was able to read me the serial number off of the display. I called Vispero and asked about its history and if it had ever been serviced and I was informed that it was serviced and cleaned back in 2016. The 80 cell display was from back in 2006. This thing is huge. I'm talking a beast of a display, but so far, so good. I've got it set up at my desktop workstation and now I've got a fully functional 80 cell display that back in the day went for almost $8000. Side note, looks like this seller's got some sort of hookup or something. At the time that I purchased it, they had two devices up for sale. Since then, I believe they've posted four more 80 cell displays. Again for roughly $300. Keep in mind, you're talking about devices that are really long in the tooth, so buyer beware and all that. Their postings are easy enough to find. You just have to search for Braille display or something along those lines. There aren't too many on at any given time.
I still have the Brailliant BI 40, but it's a refurbished model Humanware provided me as a replacement for my old display that I sent in late last year to be fixed, but got lost by UPS. Fine by me. It cost me nothing and now my Brailliant was at least serviced and inspected by Humanware.
I'm thinking of selling my Brailliant and putting that money towards either a Mantis 40 cell display or the Orbit Reader 40. I'm more inclined to opt for a device that's maybe dumber as far as on board connectivity, but that I know I can use for many years to come and not have to worry about it slowing down or not being able to keep up with the demands that innovation sometimes brings and just act as a display with maybe some built in file management features. I mean, if I want Internet connectivity and all those bells and whistles, that's what a smart phone or tablet and Bluetooth connections are for.
Just my two cents.





Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Joe Orozco
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

The great thing about Humanware products is the ability to pay in
installments. I don’t think APH offers this flexibility. If I can
throw one more product into the mix, it would be the new Braille
Sense
6 from HIMS. It’s far and away the most expensive of the displays mentioned here at $5,795, but HIMS now also offers payment plans.

Here’s the link in case it’s of interest:

https://hims-inc.com/bs6

Best,

Joe



On 3/31/21, Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@gmail.com> wrote:
The Brailliant BI 20X does open Word files, but if you edit them, it
saves them as text files. I hope that helps.
--

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@gmail.com




























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Re: hp keyboard

chris judge
 

Hey Monte:

 

I have a dell desktop keyboard that also has four keys to the left of the spacebar. The one between windows and control is some sort of function key, thus I’m guessing the same is true for yours. So the function key is between the control and windows keys, so to start narrator hold the first and third keys down, then press enter.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Chris Judge

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: September 14, 2021 7:41 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] hp keyboard

 

Hi List,

 

Today I got a new hp pavilion desktop computer.

I hooked everything up and thought I could start narrator with;

Control plus win key plus enter.

 

No Joy!

 

I checked the keyboard  again and found that it has four keys  to the left of the space bar.

Can someone tell me what these keys are? 

Please do not tell me  tocontact hp help.

I  have   had nothing but total frustration trying to get a simple answer from those idiots!!!

 

Thanks,

 

Mont


Re: Braille Displays

Victor
 

Hi:

Is the mantis braille display quiet? I’m asking because I work in radio broadcasting and audio editing. I don’t need a noisy braille display making noise in the background while recording something. I need something that’s quiet so as not to interfere with the recording. Just wondering.

Thanks,

Victor

On Apr 9, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Pat Seed <patatips@tbaytel.net> wrote:

Hi Pam and All,
I Remember the Versa-Braille run by cassette!

That is what I started with, along with the PMC101 Micromate run on DOS and CP/M!

Of course, (with smiles), we realize, that dates all of us who remember and used this technology.

Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat Seed
(807) 473-0909

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Dominguez" <pammygirl99@gmail.com>
To: <main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays


The first refreshable braille I saw was the original versabraille that used cassettes for the data. I remember going to a lecture on it, and wondering: "Braille on a cassette?" They also gave out a thermoformed handout which I had in my junk for quight a while. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: chris judge
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 4:00 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I think the first refreshable Braille display I used was an alva 80. It was the size of a table top and cost around 15 grand.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: April 7, 2021 1:43 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I started working for the local school board in 89, producing hard copy braille on a perkins brailler.
I recall a student having a versabraille, maybe one of the first ones with a braille display; maybe it was 20 cells.
I do not recall the price, but it was thousands of dollars.


That was over thirty years ago and braille displays are still big ticket items.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: April 6, 2021 10:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

I am reluctant to invest so much money on any Android based display or note taker. When you start talking about five or six thousand dollar devices, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to be able to use such a device for many many years. Being Android based as some of these newer devices are, that's just simply not going to be the case.
I made a similar argument to Brian Hartgen over Twitter when he was touting the Polaris a a business friendly device. He dismissed me at first saying that he was speaking as a business owner and that the price tag hesitancy thing was lazy thinking or some such thing and when I informed him that I too was a business owner and still wasn't sold on the price tag, he blocked me. Talk about thin skinned.... But hey, at least he had the "manners" to tell me that he was going to block me before he did so... What a swell guy. Some people.
Back in 2011, I was debating whether to get an Apex that was almost $6000 but instead opted for a 40 cell Brailliant BI and iPad and iPhone. That Brailliant lasted me over ten years and hung around outlasting something like 5 iPhone models and three iPads. Granted, the iOS and Braille experience wasn't always the best, but combining the display with various iOS devices over the years at least in my mind, gave me way more productivity and more bang for my buck than a display where the OS traditionally isn't supported for maybe more than three or four years.
Even then, the Apex would've lasted way longer than some of these newer Smart note taker/display hybrids.
I recently scored a Freedom Scientific F80 Braille display on eBay for $305. I first wrote the seller asking if everything worked, and they replied that yes, all cells, connectors and buttons were functional. I had my sighted wife look at the pictures and she was able to read me the serial number off of the display. I called Vispero and asked about its history and if it had ever been serviced and I was informed that it was serviced and cleaned back in 2016. The 80 cell display was from back in 2006. This thing is huge. I'm talking a beast of a display, but so far, so good. I've got it set up at my desktop workstation and now I've got a fully functional 80 cell display that back in the day went for almost $8000. Side note, looks like this seller's got some sort of hookup or something. At the time that I purchased it, they had two devices up for sale. Since then, I believe they've posted four more 80 cell displays. Again for roughly $300. Keep in mind, you're talking about devices that are really long in the tooth, so buyer beware and all that. Their postings are easy enough to find. You just have to search for Braille display or something along those lines. There aren't too many on at any given time.
I still have the Brailliant BI 40, but it's a refurbished model Humanware provided me as a replacement for my old display that I sent in late last year to be fixed, but got lost by UPS. Fine by me. It cost me nothing and now my Brailliant was at least serviced and inspected by Humanware.
I'm thinking of selling my Brailliant and putting that money towards either a Mantis 40 cell display or the Orbit Reader 40. I'm more inclined to opt for a device that's maybe dumber as far as on board connectivity, but that I know I can use for many years to come and not have to worry about it slowing down or not being able to keep up with the demands that innovation sometimes brings and just act as a display with maybe some built in file management features. I mean, if I want Internet connectivity and all those bells and whistles, that's what a smart phone or tablet and Bluetooth connections are for.
Just my two cents.





Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Orozco
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:44 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Braille Displays

The great thing about Humanware products is the ability to pay in installments. I don’t think APH offers this flexibility. If I can throw one more product into the mix, it would be the new Braille Sense
6 from HIMS. It’s far and away the most expensive of the displays mentioned here at $5,795, but HIMS now also offers payment plans.

Here’s the link in case it’s of interest:

https://hims-inc.com/bs6

Best,

Joe



On 3/31/21, Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@gmail.com> wrote:
The Brailliant BI 20X does open Word files, but if you edit them, it
saves them as text files. I hope that helps.
--

Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author https://abbiescorner.wordpress.com

http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@gmail.com




























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This week on eyes On Success: The Maxima computer Algebra System

blueskies11
 

This week’s episode of Eyes On Success is:

2138 Maxima Computer Algebra System (Sep. 15, 2021)
Show Notes
Maxima is a computer algebra system (CAS) that enables the user to work with complex mathematical expressions. Hosts Nancy and Peter Torpey talk with Robert Dodier, one of the developers of Maxima, about the capabilities of this free, open source program and also demonstrate how it can be used with a screen reader by those who are blind.

 

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Re: hp keyboard

Monte Single
 

This is a pavilion desktop, not a laptop

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: September 14, 2021 4:41 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] hp keyboard

 

Hi List,

 

Today I got a new hp pavilion desktop computer.

I hooked everything up and thought I could start narrator with;

Control plus win key plus enter.

 

No Joy!

 

I checked the keyboard  again and found that it has four keys  to the left of the space bar.

Can someone tell me what these keys are? 

Please do not tell me  tocontact hp help.

I  have   had nothing but total frustration trying to get a simple answer from those idiots!!!

 

Thanks,

 

Mont

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