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FW: [Blind Android Users] Blind People Won the Right to Break Ebook DRM. In 3 Years, They'll Have to Do It Again

John Holcomb II
 

 

 

From: blindandroidusers@groups.io <blindandroidusers@groups.io> On Behalf Of Suhas D
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 3:20 AM
To: blindtech@groups.io; blindandroidusers@groups.io; chat@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [Blind Android Users] Blind People Won the Right to Break Ebook DRM. In 3 Years, They'll Have to Do It Again

 

Wired

10.27.2021 01:38 PM

Blind People Won the Right to Break Ebook DRM. In 3 Years, They'll Have to Do It Again

Advocates will once again be granted a DMCA exception to make accessible versions of texts. They argue that it's far past time to make it permanent.

On Wednesday, the US Copyright Office recommended that the Librarian of Congress once again grant a three-year exemption to break ebook DRM when needed for accessibility.ILLUSTRATION: ELENA LACEY

  •  

IT'S A CLICHÉ of digital life that "information wants to be free." The internet was supposed to make the dream a reality, breaking down barriers and connecting anyone to any bit of data, anywhere. But 32 years after the invention of the World Wide Web, people with print disabilities—the inability to read printed text due to blindness or other impairments—are still waiting for the promise to be fulfilled.

Advocates for the blind are fighting an endless battle to access ebooks that sighted people take for granted, working against copyright law that gives significant protections to corporate powers and publishers who don't cater to their needs. For the past year, they've once again undergone a lengthy petitioning process to earn a critical exemption to the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act that provides legal cover for people to create accessible versions of ebooks.

Baked into Section 1201 of the DMCA is a triennial process through which the Library of Congress considers exceptions to rules that are intended to protect copyright owners. Since 2002, groups advocating for the blind have put together lengthy documents asking for exemptions that allow copy protections on ebooks to be circumvented for the sake of accessibility. Every three years, they must repeat the process, like Sisyphus rolling his stone up the hill.

On Wednesday, the US Copyright Office released a report recommending the Librarian of Congress once again grant the three-year exemption; it will do so in a final rule that takes effect on Thursday. The victory is tainted somewhat by the struggle it represents. Although the exemption protects people who circumvent digital copyright protections for the sake of accessibility—by using third-party programs to lift text and save it in a different file format, for example—that it's even necessary strikes many as a fundamental injustice.

"As the mainstream has embraced ebooks, accessibility has gotten lost," says Mark Riccobono, president of the National Federation of the Blind. "It's an afterthought."

Publishers have no obligation to make electronic versions of their books accessible to the blind through features like text-to-speech (TTS), which reads aloud onscreen text and is available on whichever device you're reading this article. More than a decade ago, publishers fought Amazon for enabling a TTS feature by default on its Kindle 2 ereader, arguing that it violated their copyright on audiobooks. Now, publishers enable or disable TTS on individual books themselves.

Even as TTS has become more common, there's no guarantee that a blind person will be able to enjoy a given novel from Amazon's Kindle storefront, or a textbook or manual. That's why the exemption is so important—and why advocates do the work over and over again to secure it from the Library of Congress. It's a time-consuming and expensive process that many would rather do away with.

"To go every three years is burdensome," says Mark Richert, executive director at the Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired. "We are not resourced the way rights owners are. There is a disparity in privilege and capacity. On that sort of equitable note alone, the exemptions should be permanent."

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Some advocates have pushed for DMCA reform that would weaken or negate Section 1201's copyright protections, therefore removing the need for a triennial application process. Lawmakers held a number of hearings reevaluating the DMCA last year; they've amounted to more debate about the best path forward, but there have been no material outcomes so far.

In the meantime, the situation morphed into a genuine crisis as the Covid-19 pandemic forced a worldwide exodus to digital space. Eric and Rebecca Bridges, both of whom are blind and work as advocates for people with disabilities, decided to homeschool their 6-year-old son last year after learning their school district wouldn't provide accessible materials.

"The world changed," says Eric, who works as the executive director of the American Council of the Blind. "He’s got two blind parents who can’t really accurately review his progress. How were we going to do this?"

"The apps that our district was using were not accessible to us as blind parents," says Rebecca, a manager at the accessibility software company TPG Interactive. "We felt like he would really lose out … So, we took that leap."

Although their son is sighted, the Bridges needed accessible textbooks and worksheets to instruct him and check his work. They purchased learning materials from three homeschooling companies, but none of them were accessible. Worksheets that appeared totally text-based actually weren't, for example. Instead, the files the Bridges received were just pictures of text.

It's an important distinction. Think of it this way: You can highlight any letter or word in this article, copy and paste it, whatever. But take a screenshot of the same text and suddenly you're left with a static image that you can't interact with. It's the difference between a DOC file and a JPEG. Without specific software, a computer doesn't "see" words in an image.

Rebecca resorted to a program called JAWS, which uses optical character recognition to translate text in an image, to read her son's worksheets. This is where the Section 1201 exemption comes in: To create an accessible version of a copyrighted work sometimes means altering and reproducing that work in a different format using a tool like JAWS. Without the exemption, it would technically be illegal to break copyright protection for this purpose.

So, Rebecca handled the worksheets. But then there were the books. Rebecca asked the homeschooling companies to provide electronic copies of the hard-copy books she purchased for her son, so that she could access the text and instruct him. When she got the files, she had to contend with a fresh slate of problems.

"Not a single one was a completely accessible document, and I received many," Rebecca says. The companies sent locked files she couldn't access and manipulate. Or they sent poorly formatted PDFs that confused her screen-reader software.

Even ebooks that are formatted correctly for TTS can have other issues. Math and science are the worst. Textbooks may be formatted for 100 percent accurate text-to-speech, only to falter when it comes to formulas, equations, charts, and tables. Those are typically rendered as images in an ebook, which would require publishers to take an additional step to record "alt text" for each individual figure—audio that would describe the image once encountered by a screen reader.

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This rarely happens. A screen reader instead stumbles over these static images, sometimes reciting filename gibberish, leaving a blind reader with no possible way to discern meaning. That's assuming, again, that an accessible version of the textbook exists to begin with. If one does exist, it may only be available on certain platforms.

As the mainstream has embraced ebooks, accessibility has gotten lost.”

MARK RICCOBONO, NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND

The inconsistencies can be maddening. Take Calculus: Early Transcendentals, a popular textbook from the publisher Cengage Learning. The "eTextbook" available on Amazon is actually just a straightforward scan of the book, with absolutely no text to speech functionality. Bookshare, an accessible online library, offers a version of the book, but even that copy is not fully accessible, because it doesn't contain alt text descriptions of those static images.

Brad Turner, VP and GM of global education and literacy at Benetech, the nonprofit behind Bookshare, says that while his company will sometimes inject accessible features into ebooks without the cooperation of a publisher, they won't write their own descriptions for images.

"Our agreement with publishers is, give us your content, and we promise not to change it at all. We’re only going to make it accessible," Turner says. "For many of the images, graphics, charts, graphs, formulas, equations, we’re not qualified like the author or the publisher."

Emily Featherston, director of corporate communications at Cengage, says the company is committed to providing accessible versions of its ebooks, and that it has "accessibility guidelines and an in-house team of digital accessibility and learning design specialists" to support its product and tech teams. Readers who purchase and access text through Cengage's own platform will have access to TTS and alt text, but those features aren't guaranteed from the third parties people may be more accustomed to buying from.

"While this work helps demonstrate our commitment to providing accessible solutions, we also recognize that accessibility is a journey, not a destination, and there is always room to improve," Featherston says.

That journey has been very long. Technological interventions have been available for years—some people use tools like the Kindle Converter or Codex to cleave through digital rights management, transforming proprietary ebooks into accessible formats—but the core problem is actually very simple. Publishers could provide fully accessible, digital versions of their books. They don't have to, and often they don't.

So advocates in the United States are stuck filing for an exemption to a 23-year-old law, signed a year before the founding of Napster and well ahead of the smartphone era, when a top copyright concern was kids ripping music from CDs. The recommendation this month to extend the copyright exemption for accessible ebooks is good news, but the entire process will repeat in three years.

By then, a permanent fix may be closer. In 2019, the European Accessibility Act became law in the EU. It will be enforced in June 2025, requiring all ebooks published in the EU after that point to be fully accessible. Some hope it could set a precedent here.

"We passed a seatbelt law. We passed an unleaded gas law. Why can’t we pass an accessible book law?" Turner says.

Meanwhile, the Bridges are looking to the future—with some trepidation.

"Math is going to be nasty," Rebecca says. "There’s no doubt in my mind."


 

 

10.27.2021 01:38 PM

Blind People Won the Right to Break Ebook DRM. In 3 Years, They'll Have to Do It Again

Advocates will once again be granted a DMCA exception to make accessible versions of texts. They argue that it's far past time to make it permanent.

On Wednesday, the US Copyright Office recommended that the Librarian of Congress once again grant a three-year exemption to break ebook DRM when needed for accessibility.ILLUSTRATION: ELENA LACEY

  •  

IT'S A CLICHÉ of digital life that "information wants to be free." The internet was supposed to make the dream a reality, breaking down barriers and connecting anyone to any bit of data, anywhere. But 32 years after the invention of the World Wide Web, people with print disabilities—the inability to read printed text due to blindness or other impairments—are still waiting for the promise to be fulfilled.

Advocates for the blind are fighting an endless battle to access ebooks that sighted people take for granted, working against copyright law that gives significant protections to corporate powers and publishers who don't cater to their needs. For the past year, they've once again undergone a lengthy petitioning process to earn a critical exemption to the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act that provides legal cover for people to create accessible versions of ebooks.

Baked into Section 1201 of the DMCA is a triennial process through which the Library of Congress considers exceptions to rules that are intended to protect copyright owners. Since 2002, groups advocating for the blind have put together lengthy documents asking for exemptions that allow copy protections on ebooks to be circumvented for the sake of accessibility. Every three years, they must repeat the process, like Sisyphus rolling his stone up the hill.

On Wednesday, the US Copyright Office released a report recommending the Librarian of Congress once again grant the three-year exemption; it will do so in a final rule that takes effect on Thursday. The victory is tainted somewhat by the struggle it represents. Although the exemption protects people who circumvent digital copyright protections for the sake of accessibility—by using third-party programs to lift text and save it in a different file format, for example—that it's even necessary strikes many as a fundamental injustice.

"As the mainstream has embraced ebooks, accessibility has gotten lost," says Mark Riccobono, president of the National Federation of the Blind. "It's an afterthought."

Publishers have no obligation to make electronic versions of their books accessible to the blind through features like text-to-speech (TTS), which reads aloud onscreen text and is available on whichever device you're reading this article. More than a decade ago, publishers fought Amazon for enabling a TTS feature by default on its Kindle 2 ereader, arguing that it violated their copyright on audiobooks. Now, publishers enable or disable TTS on individual books themselves.

Even as TTS has become more common, there's no guarantee that a blind person will be able to enjoy a given novel from Amazon's Kindle storefront, or a textbook or manual. That's why the exemption is so important—and why advocates do the work over and over again to secure it from the Library of Congress. It's a time-consuming and expensive process that many would rather do away with.

"To go every three years is burdensome," says Mark Richert, executive director at the Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired. "We are not resourced the way rights owners are. There is a disparity in privilege and capacity. On that sort of equitable note alone, the exemptions should be permanent."

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Some advocates have pushed for DMCA reform that would weaken or negate Section 1201's copyright protections, therefore removing the need for a triennial application process. Lawmakers held a number of hearings reevaluating the DMCA last year; they've amounted to more debate about the best path forward, but there have been no material outcomes so far.

In the meantime, the situation morphed into a genuine crisis as the Covid-19 pandemic forced a worldwide exodus to digital space. Eric and Rebecca Bridges, both of whom are blind and work as advocates for people with disabilities, decided to homeschool their 6-year-old son last year after learning their school district wouldn't provide accessible materials.

"The world changed," says Eric, who works as the executive director of the American Council of the Blind. "He’s got two blind parents who can’t really accurately review his progress. How were we going to do this?"

"The apps that our district was using were not accessible to us as blind parents," says Rebecca, a manager at the accessibility software company TPG Interactive. "We felt like he would really lose out … So, we took that leap."

Although their son is sighted, the Bridges needed accessible textbooks and worksheets to instruct him and check his work. They purchased learning materials from three homeschooling companies, but none of them were accessible. Worksheets that appeared totally text-based actually weren't, for example. Instead, the files the Bridges received were just pictures of text.

It's an important distinction. Think of it this way: You can highlight any letter or word in this article, copy and paste it, whatever. But take a screenshot of the same text and suddenly you're left with a static image that you can't interact with. It's the difference between a DOC file and a JPEG. Without specific software, a computer doesn't "see" words in an image.

Rebecca resorted to a program called JAWS, which uses optical character recognition to translate text in an image, to read her son's worksheets. This is where the Section 1201 exemption comes in: To create an accessible version of a copyrighted work sometimes means altering and reproducing that work in a different format using a tool like JAWS. Without the exemption, it would technically be illegal to break copyright protection for this purpose.

So, Rebecca handled the worksheets. But then there were the books. Rebecca asked the homeschooling companies to provide electronic copies of the hard-copy books she purchased for her son, so that she could access the text and instruct him. When she got the files, she had to contend with a fresh slate of problems.

"Not a single one was a completely accessible document, and I received many," Rebecca says. The companies sent locked files she couldn't access and manipulate. Or they sent poorly formatted PDFs that confused her screen-reader software.

Even ebooks that are formatted correctly for TTS can have other issues. Math and science are the worst. Textbooks may be formatted for 100 percent accurate text-to-speech, only to falter when it comes to formulas, equations, charts, and tables. Those are typically rendered as images in an ebook, which would require publishers to take an additional step to record "alt text" for each individual figure—audio that would describe the image once encountered by a screen reader.

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This rarely happens. A screen reader instead stumbles over these static images, sometimes reciting filename gibberish, leaving a blind reader with no possible way to discern meaning. That's assuming, again, that an accessible version of the textbook exists to begin with. If one does exist, it may only be available on certain platforms.

As the mainstream has embraced ebooks, accessibility has gotten lost.”

MARK RICCOBONO, NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND

The inconsistencies can be maddening. Take Calculus: Early Transcendentals, a popular textbook from the publisher Cengage Learning. The "eTextbook" available on Amazon is actually just a straightforward scan of the book, with absolutely no text to speech functionality. Bookshare, an accessible online library, offers a version of the book, but even that copy is not fully accessible, because it doesn't contain alt text descriptions of those static images.

Brad Turner, VP and GM of global education and literacy at Benetech, the nonprofit behind Bookshare, says that while his company will sometimes inject accessible features into ebooks without the cooperation of a publisher, they won't write their own descriptions for images.

"Our agreement with publishers is, give us your content, and we promise not to change it at all. We’re only going to make it accessible," Turner says. "For many of the images, graphics, charts, graphs, formulas, equations, we’re not qualified like the author or the publisher."

Emily Featherston, director of corporate communications at Cengage, says the company is committed to providing accessible versions of its ebooks, and that it has "accessibility guidelines and an in-house team of digital accessibility and learning design specialists" to support its product and tech teams. Readers who purchase and access text through Cengage's own platform will have access to TTS and alt text, but those features aren't guaranteed from the third parties people may be more accustomed to buying from.

"While this work helps demonstrate our commitment to providing accessible solutions, we also recognize that accessibility is a journey, not a destination, and there is always room to improve," Featherston says.

That journey has been very long. Technological interventions have been available for years—some people use tools like the Kindle Converter or Codex to cleave through digital rights management, transforming proprietary ebooks into accessible formats—but the core problem is actually very simple. Publishers could provide fully accessible, digital versions of their books. They don't have to, and often they don't.

So advocates in the United States are stuck filing for an exemption to a 23-year-old law, signed a year before the founding of Napster and well ahead of the smartphone era, when a top copyright concern was kids ripping music from CDs. The recommendation this month to extend the copyright exemption for accessible ebooks is good news, but the entire process will repeat in three years.

By then, a permanent fix may be closer. In 2019, the European Accessibility Act became law in the EU. It will be enforced in June 2025, requiring all ebooks published in the EU after that point to be fully accessible. Some hope it could set a precedent here.

"We passed a seatbelt law. We passed an unleaded gas law. Why can’t we pass an accessible book law?" Turner says.

Meanwhile, the Bridges are looking to the future—with some trepidation.

"Math is going to be nasty," Rebecca says. "There’s no doubt in my mind."




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Re: Ear buds for PC?

John Holcomb II
 

Welcome to Bluetooth .

Why do you think I hate I it and wont use it except for keyboards and the like.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie Nelson
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 11:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ear buds for PC?

 

Not terrible but definitely noticeable.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 12:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ear buds for PC?

 

And the ones you have tried are still horrible delayed w even when both the  PC and headphone are the same version?

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie Nelson
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 3:32 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ear buds for PC?

 

Some yes, some no.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 12:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ear buds for PC?

 

Have the headphones you tried so support also support BT5.1?

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie Nelson
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 3:30 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ear buds for PC?

 

PC will support BT 5.1

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 12:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ear buds for PC?

 

Which version of Bluetooth does your PC support?

That’s the first question  to ask.

Next, make sure you get headphones witch support the same version as your PC.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie Nelson
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2021 3:09 PM
To: techtalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Ear buds for PC?

 

Using the over the head headphones gives me a headache if worn for any extended period. However, I have not yet found any ear buds which work well with my Windows PC. There always seems to be too much lag time with Bluetooth and it is annoying.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I do a lot of Zoom calls which are best with headphones so, I don’t mind spending a bit of money if I can find some which work well.

Has anyone used the Bose Quiet Comfort buds with a PC?

Thanks for any input.

Marie

 


Re: Ear buds for PC?

Marie Nelson <scribbles.mn@...>
 

This is some great info for thought. I am actually leaning toward the Anker Liberty Soundcore buds. Partly because of the multi point pairing. One nice thing about amazon, if you are not happy with a product, they make returns pretty simple. I am not a serious audiophile and plan to use these primarily with Zoom, they should do the trick.

Marie

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 3:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Ear buds for PC?

 

One thing which is nice about the Bose Quiet Comfort products is that they (1) can connect to 2 blue tooth devices and (2) announce which they are currently paired with. I had the quiet comfort qc35 over the head phones, not ear buds but am making an assumption that the earbuds would do the same as the head phones. I sent them back because they are expensive, and I need a pair of phones which can do blue tooth and 1/8-inch audio input simultaneously. I had a pair but they literally broke. The quiet comfort can do 2 blue tooth devices but not simultaneous audio, nor can they do 1/8-inch audio input plus simultaneous blue tooth, and they provide a sort of external microphone which connects to a input jack for support and connection, turning the stereo headphones into mono ones for presumed mono production of your potential stereo computer which turned me off, though they worked fine with my iPhone.

People assume that your Skype or Zoom calls will be in mono, when in fact there are many potential exceptions to this; audio production of songs for a show in stereo? and you need to talk with it maybe in mono but you must hear in stereo, JAWS new mode for sending jfw to one channel and the audio from Zoom or Skype to the other, which negate the quiet comfort's necessity to be in mono for Zoom or Skype calls, etc.

So, as I said I did send them back.

I used the Tribit X-Free which sound very nice, but now Amazon is out of them, and I don't recommend their noise reduction models for it seems in no way can you simultaneously run blue tooth and 1/8-inch audio input whenever there is the noise reduction algorithm used in head phones.

BTW, for anyone interested, the very best noise reduction phones are Sony WH1000 XM4, (or 3) which are actually amazing. Soundcore are quite good for noise reduction as well, and for the price do sound about as good as very high quality audio-file type phones. Very little latency over blue tooth too, where the Sonys have a lag.

 

On 10/26/2021 12:09 PM, Marie Nelson wrote:

Using the over the head headphones gives me a headache if worn for any extended period. However, I have not yet found any ear buds which work well with my Windows PC. There always seems to be too much lag time with Bluetooth and it is annoying.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I do a lot of Zoom calls which are best with headphones so, I don’t mind spending a bit of money if I can find some which work well.

Has anyone used the Bose Quiet Comfort buds with a PC?

Thanks for any input.

Marie

 

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deleting a gmail filter

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,


I see on the gmail site where I can create a filter but how do I delete one?


Thanks.


Troy


Re: outlook inbox issue

Sugar
 

Madison
Yes, you can have an imap account, it is what I have.
i am sorry I am not sure how to do it
but maybe if you contact Microsoft disability, they can help you with both issues?
Good luck
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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 8:53 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] outlook inbox issue

Hi all,
I recently created an outlook.com account and I seem to have two inboxes, one labeled focused and the other called other. Now I'm wondering, is there any way for me to only have one inbox, or at the very least have all of my messages go into one inbox? This isn't an imap account, it seems to be a Microsofft Exchange account, wish I could make it an imap account but I assume I can't. Anyway, using the latest versions of Jaws 2022, Office 365 and Windows 10. Really hope someone can help me as I hate having to check two inboxes all the time. Hope this goes through. Thanks Madison


outlook inbox issue

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I recently created an outlook.com account and I seem to have two inboxes, one labeled focused and the other called other. Now I'm wondering, is there any way for me to only have one inbox, or at the very least have all of my messages go into one inbox? This isn't an imap account, it seems to be a Microsofft Exchange account, wish I could make it an imap account but I assume I can't. Anyway, using the latest versions of Jaws 2022, Office 365 and Windows 10. Really hope someone can help me as I hate having to check two inboxes all the time. Hope this goes through. Thanks Madison


Re: popping when filling out an e mail

Gene
 

Perhaps there should be two sound schemes, the original one and the new one for those who prefer the new ones.  These should be very easy to switch between, perhaps with a command in a menu and perhaps in the dialog that comes up when you first run the program.  The developers might be opened to discussing that.
 
Gene
 

From: david
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 4:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail
 

if folks who are running jaws, want to hear the sound,

you can go to,

from the run dialog type in:

"C:\ProgramData\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2021\Settings\enu\SOUNDS"

replace  your current version,

now once the folder opens,

o=OutlookAutocompleteEnterSound.wav

o=OutlookAutocompleteExitSound.wav

you can press enter on the file you will hear the sound.

 

 

 

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From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 8:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’d tend to agree, especially if each screen reader has it’s own sound for different events.

Can someone describe this “popping” sound?

The autocomplete sound for me sounds like someone is clicking their tongue.

The sounds don’t bother me, it did at first but I got use to it and was to lazy to have them subside. lol

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I highly doubt one would hear the autocomplete sound in another screen reader.

this is a jaws issue for sure.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 7:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m very curious to see if using a different screen-reader results in the clicking sound being heard.  If so, it would then appear that some earlier versions of JAWS stopped the clicking sound. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: david

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 5:54 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hello;

I had a client who also had this issue, here's the response from Vispero;

Here's the question/response,

 

 

To whom it may concern;

A client has asked me how to turn off a sound in outlook 2016.

when she creates new message, and starts typing a email address a sound is heard. it seems like it's a auto complete sound.

can this be turned off?

Client is using jaws 2020, outlook 2016.

in advance thanks for your help.

 

 

 

 

Dear Valued Customer:

 

Thank you for contacting Vispero™ Technical Support.

 

Please edit the outlook.jcf file located in the user settings folder and add the  following to that file .  To get to the user setting folder:

  1. Press Insert+J for the JAWS interface.
  2. From the utilities menu, choose Explore Utilities folder, then choose explore my settings.
  3. Open the outlook.jcf file in notepad.
  4. Add the following  to the end of the file:

 

 

[NonJCFOptions]

;  sounds for when autocomplete list appears and disappears,

;  for message header fields when entering contacts.

AutoCompleteListEnterSound=1OutlookAutocompleteEnterSound.wav

AutoCompleteListExitSound=1OutlookAutocompleteExitSound.wav

 

If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, please don't hesitate to contact us.

 

If replying to this message, be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.

 

Regards,

 

Jose Tamayo

Vispero | Technical Support Specialist

17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560, Clearwater, FL 33764

T 727-803-8600 F 727-803-8001

support@...

www.vispero.com

 

Let us know how we are doing by completing a

short survey.

 

From: David Whitehead <davidwhitehead1957@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 7:07 AM
To: Vispero Technical Support <support@...>
Subject: Auto complete sound

 

To whom it may concern;

A client has asked me how to turn off a sound in outlook 2016.

when she creates new message, and starts typing a email address a sound is heard. it seems like it's a auto complete sound.

can this be turned off?

Client is using jaws 2020, outlook 2016.

in advance thanks for your help.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 5:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi Mike

yes, of courzse.

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi Sugar,

 

When FS Support lets you know how to stop the popping sounds, would please share with this list and the Jaws list?

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:30 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, indeed. I did write to them and they replied.

they asked if I wanted instructions to stop the popping noise, I said yes of course

smile

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m very curious to see what FS has to say. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:25 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

hi

this only happens on outlook when I’m typing an e mail

I do have my settings on Manual for the browser)google)

thanks

sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

What happens in another autocomplete context.  Does your browser guess about addresses you type in the address bar and change the suggestion as you add more to the address?  If so, does the current JAWS produce a sound as the suggestion changes?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

strange, well, thank you anyways

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hmmm, it did on this end.

Did you exit and return to outlook?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Ok, I did what you instructed but it didn’t work

thanks, I appreciate it

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Try opening up word, go to options with alt f, followed by t, in the list of categories, press A until you get to accessibility.

Tab into the list and down arrow until you hear provide feedback with sound. If that box is checked, uncheck it. I would shift tab back to the ok button and activate it.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, thank you.

I didn’t do that with Jaws 21.

so I would like to know how to stop that.

thanks again

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m guessing here, outlook is populating email addresses as you’re typing in the to field.

I hear that popping sound as well when I type in the to field.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi all

I am going to try this here.

just installed Jaws 22.

I am using windows 10, outlook 2016 and on a desk top

 

when I go to send a new e mail, I hear a popping news and then it goes away when I get to the subject line

as if it is telling me t pick what e mail ZI want to use

very strange.

I did notify Sparrow and I am waiting for their instructions on how to remove this

in the mean time, does anyone else experience this strange popping noise?

thanks Sugar

 

“A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others throw at them.”

🙏 -Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at:

 

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

Sugar

 


Re: popping when filling out an e mail

david
 

if folks who are running jaws, want to hear the sound,

you can go to,

from the run dialog type in:

"C:\ProgramData\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2021\Settings\enu\SOUNDS"

replace  your current version,

now once the folder opens,

o=OutlookAutocompleteEnterSound.wav

o=OutlookAutocompleteExitSound.wav

you can press enter on the file you will hear the sound.

 

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 8:41 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’d tend to agree, especially if each screen reader has it’s own sound for different events.

Can someone describe this “popping” sound?

The autocomplete sound for me sounds like someone is clicking their tongue.

The sounds don’t bother me, it did at first but I got use to it and was to lazy to have them subside. lol

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I highly doubt one would hear the autocomplete sound in another screen reader.

this is a jaws issue for sure.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 7:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m very curious to see if using a different screen-reader results in the clicking sound being heard.  If so, it would then appear that some earlier versions of JAWS stopped the clicking sound. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: david

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 5:54 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hello;

I had a client who also had this issue, here's the response from Vispero;

Here's the question/response,

 

 

To whom it may concern;

A client has asked me how to turn off a sound in outlook 2016.

when she creates new message, and starts typing a email address a sound is heard. it seems like it's a auto complete sound.

can this be turned off?

Client is using jaws 2020, outlook 2016.

in advance thanks for your help.

 

 

 

 

Dear Valued Customer:

 

Thank you for contacting Vispero™ Technical Support.

 

Please edit the outlook.jcf file located in the user settings folder and add the  following to that file .  To get to the user setting folder:

  1. Press Insert+J for the JAWS interface.
  2. From the utilities menu, choose Explore Utilities folder, then choose explore my settings.
  3. Open the outlook.jcf file in notepad.
  4. Add the following  to the end of the file:

 

 

[NonJCFOptions]

;  sounds for when autocomplete list appears and disappears,

;  for message header fields when entering contacts.

AutoCompleteListEnterSound=1OutlookAutocompleteEnterSound.wav

AutoCompleteListExitSound=1OutlookAutocompleteExitSound.wav

 

If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, please don't hesitate to contact us.

 

If replying to this message, be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.

 

Regards,

 

Jose Tamayo

Vispero | Technical Support Specialist

17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560, Clearwater, FL 33764

T 727-803-8600 F 727-803-8001

support@...

www.vispero.com

 

Let us know how we are doing by completing a

short survey.

 

From: David Whitehead <davidwhitehead1957@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 7:07 AM
To: Vispero Technical Support <support@...>
Subject: Auto complete sound

 

To whom it may concern;

A client has asked me how to turn off a sound in outlook 2016.

when she creates new message, and starts typing a email address a sound is heard. it seems like it's a auto complete sound.

can this be turned off?

Client is using jaws 2020, outlook 2016.

in advance thanks for your help.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 5:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi Mike

yes, of courzse.

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi Sugar,

 

When FS Support lets you know how to stop the popping sounds, would please share with this list and the Jaws list?

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:30 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, indeed. I did write to them and they replied.

they asked if I wanted instructions to stop the popping noise, I said yes of course

smile

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m very curious to see what FS has to say. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:25 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

hi

this only happens on outlook when I’m typing an e mail

I do have my settings on Manual for the browser)google)

thanks

sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

What happens in another autocomplete context.  Does your browser guess about addresses you type in the address bar and change the suggestion as you add more to the address?  If so, does the current JAWS produce a sound as the suggestion changes?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

strange, well, thank you anyways

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hmmm, it did on this end.

Did you exit and return to outlook?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Ok, I did what you instructed but it didn’t work

thanks, I appreciate it

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Try opening up word, go to options with alt f, followed by t, in the list of categories, press A until you get to accessibility.

Tab into the list and down arrow until you hear provide feedback with sound. If that box is checked, uncheck it. I would shift tab back to the ok button and activate it.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, thank you.

I didn’t do that with Jaws 21.

so I would like to know how to stop that.

thanks again

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m guessing here, outlook is populating email addresses as you’re typing in the to field.

I hear that popping sound as well when I type in the to field.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi all

I am going to try this here.

just installed Jaws 22.

I am using windows 10, outlook 2016 and on a desk top

 

when I go to send a new e mail, I hear a popping news and then it goes away when I get to the subject line

as if it is telling me t pick what e mail ZI want to use

very strange.

I did notify Sparrow and I am waiting for their instructions on how to remove this

in the mean time, does anyone else experience this strange popping noise?

thanks Sugar

 

“A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others throw at them.”

🙏 -Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at:

 

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

Sugar

 


Re: how to apply styles to my document?

Jaffar Sidek
 

Thanks very much Sam and Quentin. Truly appreciated.

On 28/10/2021 7:56 am, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Jaffar,

As Sam mentioned, press control+alt+1 for heading 1, control+alt+2 for heading level 2 and control+alt+3 for heading level 3.  You can use control+shift+s to open apply styles or control+alt+shift+s for the full styles options.  You can also press alt+h, then L to go to Styles on the home ribbon.

There is a section covering Styles in the Microsoft Word with NVDA training module if you are interested in improving your sklils with Word overall: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda-ebook/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 4:27 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:
Hi all.  Sorry for this very basic question but I am a bit lost as I am
now using Office 365.  With the normal office 2019 desktop app, I could
apply headings level 1 to 6 quite easily using  the insert menu and
alt+Y on the ribbon.  I don't seem to be able to do it now.  Any guide
please?  Thanks and cheers.








--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


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Re: popping when filling out an e mail

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I’d tend to agree, especially if each screen reader has it’s own sound for different events.

Can someone describe this “popping” sound?

The autocomplete sound for me sounds like someone is clicking their tongue.

The sounds don’t bother me, it did at first but I got use to it and was to lazy to have them subside. lol

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:10 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I highly doubt one would hear the autocomplete sound in another screen reader.

this is a jaws issue for sure.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 7:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m very curious to see if using a different screen-reader results in the clicking sound being heard.  If so, it would then appear that some earlier versions of JAWS stopped the clicking sound. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: david

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 5:54 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hello;

I had a client who also had this issue, here's the response from Vispero;

Here's the question/response,

 

 

To whom it may concern;

A client has asked me how to turn off a sound in outlook 2016.

when she creates new message, and starts typing a email address a sound is heard. it seems like it's a auto complete sound.

can this be turned off?

Client is using jaws 2020, outlook 2016.

in advance thanks for your help.

 

 

 

 

Dear Valued Customer:

 

Thank you for contacting Vispero™ Technical Support.

 

Please edit the outlook.jcf file located in the user settings folder and add the  following to that file .  To get to the user setting folder:

  1. Press Insert+J for the JAWS interface.
  2. From the utilities menu, choose Explore Utilities folder, then choose explore my settings.
  3. Open the outlook.jcf file in notepad.
  4. Add the following  to the end of the file:

 

 

[NonJCFOptions]

;  sounds for when autocomplete list appears and disappears,

;  for message header fields when entering contacts.

AutoCompleteListEnterSound=1OutlookAutocompleteEnterSound.wav

AutoCompleteListExitSound=1OutlookAutocompleteExitSound.wav

 

If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, please don't hesitate to contact us.

 

If replying to this message, be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.

 

Regards,

 

Jose Tamayo

Vispero | Technical Support Specialist

17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560, Clearwater, FL 33764

T 727-803-8600 F 727-803-8001

support@...

www.vispero.com

 

Let us know how we are doing by completing a

short survey.

 

From: David Whitehead <davidwhitehead1957@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 7:07 AM
To: Vispero Technical Support <support@...>
Subject: Auto complete sound

 

To whom it may concern;

A client has asked me how to turn off a sound in outlook 2016.

when she creates new message, and starts typing a email address a sound is heard. it seems like it's a auto complete sound.

can this be turned off?

Client is using jaws 2020, outlook 2016.

in advance thanks for your help.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 5:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi Mike

yes, of courzse.

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi Sugar,

 

When FS Support lets you know how to stop the popping sounds, would please share with this list and the Jaws list?

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:30 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, indeed. I did write to them and they replied.

they asked if I wanted instructions to stop the popping noise, I said yes of course

smile

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m very curious to see what FS has to say. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:25 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

hi

this only happens on outlook when I’m typing an e mail

I do have my settings on Manual for the browser)google)

thanks

sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

What happens in another autocomplete context.  Does your browser guess about addresses you type in the address bar and change the suggestion as you add more to the address?  If so, does the current JAWS produce a sound as the suggestion changes?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

strange, well, thank you anyways

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hmmm, it did on this end.

Did you exit and return to outlook?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Ok, I did what you instructed but it didn’t work

thanks, I appreciate it

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Try opening up word, go to options with alt f, followed by t, in the list of categories, press A until you get to accessibility.

Tab into the list and down arrow until you hear provide feedback with sound. If that box is checked, uncheck it. I would shift tab back to the ok button and activate it.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, thank you.

I didn’t do that with Jaws 21.

so I would like to know how to stop that.

thanks again

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m guessing here, outlook is populating email addresses as you’re typing in the to field.

I hear that popping sound as well when I type in the to field.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi all

I am going to try this here.

just installed Jaws 22.

I am using windows 10, outlook 2016 and on a desk top

 

when I go to send a new e mail, I hear a popping news and then it goes away when I get to the subject line

as if it is telling me t pick what e mail ZI want to use

very strange.

I did notify Sparrow and I am waiting for their instructions on how to remove this

in the mean time, does anyone else experience this strange popping noise?

thanks Sugar

 

“A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others throw at them.”

🙏 -Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at:

 

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

Sugar

 


Re: how to apply styles to my document?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Jaffar,

As Sam mentioned, press control+alt+1 for heading 1, control+alt+2 for heading level 2 and control+alt+3 for heading level 3.  You can use control+shift+s to open apply styles or control+alt+shift+s for the full styles options.  You can also press alt+h, then L to go to Styles on the home ribbon.

There is a section covering Styles in the Microsoft Word with NVDA training module if you are interested in improving your sklils with Word overall: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda-ebook/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 4:27 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:
Hi all.  Sorry for this very basic question but I am a bit lost as I am
now using Office 365.  With the normal office 2019 desktop app, I could
apply headings level 1 to 6 quite easily using  the insert menu and
alt+Y on the ribbon.  I don't seem to be able to do it now.  Any guide
please?  Thanks and cheers.








--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: popping when filling out an e mail

david
 

I highly doubt one would hear the autocomplete sound in another screen reader.

this is a jaws issue for sure.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 7:04 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m very curious to see if using a different screen-reader results in the clicking sound being heard.  If so, it would then appear that some earlier versions of JAWS stopped the clicking sound. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: david

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 5:54 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hello;

I had a client who also had this issue, here's the response from Vispero;

Here's the question/response,

 

 

To whom it may concern;

A client has asked me how to turn off a sound in outlook 2016.

when she creates new message, and starts typing a email address a sound is heard. it seems like it's a auto complete sound.

can this be turned off?

Client is using jaws 2020, outlook 2016.

in advance thanks for your help.

 

 

 

 

Dear Valued Customer:

 

Thank you for contacting Vispero™ Technical Support.

 

Please edit the outlook.jcf file located in the user settings folder and add the  following to that file .  To get to the user setting folder:

  1. Press Insert+J for the JAWS interface.
  2. From the utilities menu, choose Explore Utilities folder, then choose explore my settings.
  3. Open the outlook.jcf file in notepad.
  4. Add the following  to the end of the file:

 

 

[NonJCFOptions]

;  sounds for when autocomplete list appears and disappears,

;  for message header fields when entering contacts.

AutoCompleteListEnterSound=1OutlookAutocompleteEnterSound.wav

AutoCompleteListExitSound=1OutlookAutocompleteExitSound.wav

 

If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, please don't hesitate to contact us.

 

If replying to this message, be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.

 

Regards,

 

Jose Tamayo

Vispero | Technical Support Specialist

17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560, Clearwater, FL 33764

T 727-803-8600 F 727-803-8001

support@...

www.vispero.com

 

Let us know how we are doing by completing a

short survey.

 

From: David Whitehead <davidwhitehead1957@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 7:07 AM
To: Vispero Technical Support <support@...>
Subject: Auto complete sound

 

To whom it may concern;

A client has asked me how to turn off a sound in outlook 2016.

when she creates new message, and starts typing a email address a sound is heard. it seems like it's a auto complete sound.

can this be turned off?

Client is using jaws 2020, outlook 2016.

in advance thanks for your help.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 5:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi Mike

yes, of courzse.

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi Sugar,

 

When FS Support lets you know how to stop the popping sounds, would please share with this list and the Jaws list?

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:30 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, indeed. I did write to them and they replied.

they asked if I wanted instructions to stop the popping noise, I said yes of course

smile

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m very curious to see what FS has to say. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:25 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

hi

this only happens on outlook when I’m typing an e mail

I do have my settings on Manual for the browser)google)

thanks

sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

What happens in another autocomplete context.  Does your browser guess about addresses you type in the address bar and change the suggestion as you add more to the address?  If so, does the current JAWS produce a sound as the suggestion changes?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

strange, well, thank you anyways

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hmmm, it did on this end.

Did you exit and return to outlook?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Ok, I did what you instructed but it didn’t work

thanks, I appreciate it

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Try opening up word, go to options with alt f, followed by t, in the list of categories, press A until you get to accessibility.

Tab into the list and down arrow until you hear provide feedback with sound. If that box is checked, uncheck it. I would shift tab back to the ok button and activate it.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, thank you.

I didn’t do that with Jaws 21.

so I would like to know how to stop that.

thanks again

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m guessing here, outlook is populating email addresses as you’re typing in the to field.

I hear that popping sound as well when I type in the to field.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi all

I am going to try this here.

just installed Jaws 22.

I am using windows 10, outlook 2016 and on a desk top

 

when I go to send a new e mail, I hear a popping news and then it goes away when I get to the subject line

as if it is telling me t pick what e mail ZI want to use

very strange.

I did notify Sparrow and I am waiting for their instructions on how to remove this

in the mean time, does anyone else experience this strange popping noise?

thanks Sugar

 

“A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others throw at them.”

🙏 -Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at:

 

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

Sugar

 


Re: popping when filling out an e mail

Sugar
 

yeah me to, LOL

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 3:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Wow!

Interesting. I’m to scared to do that stuff. Lol.

I just unchecked the provide feedback with sound checkbox and it worked.

I hope the below will work for Sugar, or whatever instructions they provided her if different from below.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 3:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hello;

I had a client who also had this issue, here's the response from Vispero;

Here's the question/response,

 

 

To whom it may concern;

A client has asked me how to turn off a sound in outlook 2016.

when she creates new message, and starts typing a email address a sound is heard. it seems like it's a auto complete sound.

can this be turned off?

Client is using jaws 2020, outlook 2016.

in advance thanks for your help.

 

 

 

 

Dear Valued Customer:

 

Thank you for contacting Vispero™ Technical Support.

 

Please edit the outlook.jcf file located in the user settings folder and add the  following to that file .  To get to the user setting folder:

  1. Press Insert+J for the JAWS interface.
  2. From the utilities menu, choose Explore Utilities folder, then choose explore my settings.
  3. Open the outlook.jcf file in notepad.
  4. Add the following  to the end of the file:

 

 

[NonJCFOptions]

;  sounds for when autocomplete list appears and disappears,

;  for message header fields when entering contacts.

AutoCompleteListEnterSound=1OutlookAutocompleteEnterSound.wav

AutoCompleteListExitSound=1OutlookAutocompleteExitSound.wav

 

If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, please don't hesitate to contact us.

 

If replying to this message, be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.

 

Regards,

 

Jose Tamayo

Vispero | Technical Support Specialist

17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560, Clearwater, FL 33764

T 727-803-8600 F 727-803-8001

support@...

www.vispero.com

 

Let us know how we are doing by completing a

short survey.

 

From: David Whitehead <davidwhitehead1957@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 7:07 AM
To: Vispero Technical Support <support@...>
Subject: Auto complete sound

 

To whom it may concern;

A client has asked me how to turn off a sound in outlook 2016.

when she creates new message, and starts typing a email address a sound is heard. it seems like it's a auto complete sound.

can this be turned off?

Client is using jaws 2020, outlook 2016.

in advance thanks for your help.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 5:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi Mike

yes, of courzse.

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi Sugar,

 

When FS Support lets you know how to stop the popping sounds, would please share with this list and the Jaws list? 

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:30 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, indeed. I did write to them and they replied.

they asked if I wanted instructions to stop the popping noise, I said yes of course

smile

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m very curious to see what FS has to say. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:25 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

hi

this only happens on outlook when I’m typing an e mail

I do have my settings on Manual for the browser)google)

thanks

sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

What happens in another autocomplete context.  Does your browser guess about addresses you type in the address bar and change the suggestion as you add more to the address?  If so, does the current JAWS produce a sound as the suggestion changes?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

strange, well, thank you anyways

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hmmm, it did on this end.

Did you exit and return to outlook?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Ok, I did what you instructed but it didn’t work

thanks, I appreciate it

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Try opening up word, go to options with alt f, followed by t, in the list of categories, press A until you get to accessibility.

Tab into the list and down arrow until you hear provide feedback with sound. If that box is checked, uncheck it. I would shift tab back to the ok button and activate it.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, thank you.

I didn’t do that with Jaws 21.

so I would like to know how to stop that.

thanks again

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m guessing here, outlook is populating email addresses as you’re typing in the to field.

I hear that popping sound as well when I type in the to field.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi all

I am going to try this here.

just installed Jaws 22.

I am using windows 10, outlook 2016 and on a desk top

 

when I go to send a new e mail, I hear a popping news and then it goes away when I get to the subject line

as if it is telling me t pick what e mail ZI want to use

very strange.

I did notify Sparrow and I am waiting for their instructions on how to remove this

in the mean time, does anyone else experience this strange popping noise?

thanks Sugar

 

“A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others throw at them.”

🙏 -Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at:

 

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

Sugar

 


Re: popping when filling out an e mail

Gene
 

I’m very curious to see if using a different screen-reader results in the clicking sound being heard.  If so, it would then appear that some earlier versions of JAWS stopped the clicking sound. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: david
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail
 

Hello;

I had a client who also had this issue, here's the response from Vispero;

Here's the question/response,

 

 

To whom it may concern;

A client has asked me how to turn off a sound in outlook 2016.

when she creates new message, and starts typing a email address a sound is heard. it seems like it's a auto complete sound.

can this be turned off?

Client is using jaws 2020, outlook 2016.

in advance thanks for your help.

 

 

 

 

Dear Valued Customer:

 

Thank you for contacting Vispero™ Technical Support.

 

Please edit the outlook.jcf file located in the user settings folder and add the  following to that file .  To get to the user setting folder:

  1. Press Insert+J for the JAWS interface.
  2. From the utilities menu, choose Explore Utilities folder, then choose explore my settings.
  3. Open the outlook.jcf file in notepad.
  4. Add the following  to the end of the file:

 

 

[NonJCFOptions]

;  sounds for when autocomplete list appears and disappears,

;  for message header fields when entering contacts.

AutoCompleteListEnterSound=1OutlookAutocompleteEnterSound.wav

AutoCompleteListExitSound=1OutlookAutocompleteExitSound.wav

 

If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, please don't hesitate to contact us.

 

If replying to this message, be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.

 

Regards,

 

Jose Tamayo

Vispero | Technical Support Specialist

17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560, Clearwater, FL 33764

T 727-803-8600 F 727-803-8001

support@...

www.vispero.com

 

Let us know how we are doing by completing a

short survey.

 

From: David Whitehead <davidwhitehead1957@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 7:07 AM
To: Vispero Technical Support <support@...>
Subject: Auto complete sound

 

To whom it may concern;

A client has asked me how to turn off a sound in outlook 2016.

when she creates new message, and starts typing a email address a sound is heard. it seems like it's a auto complete sound.

can this be turned off?

Client is using jaws 2020, outlook 2016.

in advance thanks for your help.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 5:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi Mike

yes, of courzse.

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi Sugar,

 

When FS Support lets you know how to stop the popping sounds, would please share with this list and the Jaws list?

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:30 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, indeed. I did write to them and they replied.

they asked if I wanted instructions to stop the popping noise, I said yes of course

smile

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m very curious to see what FS has to say. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:25 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

hi

this only happens on outlook when I’m typing an e mail

I do have my settings on Manual for the browser)google)

thanks

sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

What happens in another autocomplete context.  Does your browser guess about addresses you type in the address bar and change the suggestion as you add more to the address?  If so, does the current JAWS produce a sound as the suggestion changes?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

strange, well, thank you anyways

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hmmm, it did on this end.

Did you exit and return to outlook?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Ok, I did what you instructed but it didn’t work

thanks, I appreciate it

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Try opening up word, go to options with alt f, followed by t, in the list of categories, press A until you get to accessibility.

Tab into the list and down arrow until you hear provide feedback with sound. If that box is checked, uncheck it. I would shift tab back to the ok button and activate it.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, thank you.

I didn’t do that with Jaws 21.

so I would like to know how to stop that.

thanks again

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m guessing here, outlook is populating email addresses as you’re typing in the to field.

I hear that popping sound as well when I type in the to field.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi all

I am going to try this here.

just installed Jaws 22.

I am using windows 10, outlook 2016 and on a desk top

 

when I go to send a new e mail, I hear a popping news and then it goes away when I get to the subject line

as if it is telling me t pick what e mail ZI want to use

very strange.

I did notify Sparrow and I am waiting for their instructions on how to remove this

in the mean time, does anyone else experience this strange popping noise?

thanks Sugar

 

“A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others throw at them.”

🙏 -Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at:

 

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

Sugar

 


Re: popping when filling out an e mail

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Wow!

Interesting. I’m to scared to do that stuff. Lol.

I just unchecked the provide feedback with sound checkbox and it worked.

I hope the below will work for Sugar, or whatever instructions they provided her if different from below.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of david
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 3:55 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hello;

I had a client who also had this issue, here's the response from Vispero;

Here's the question/response,

 

 

To whom it may concern;

A client has asked me how to turn off a sound in outlook 2016.

when she creates new message, and starts typing a email address a sound is heard. it seems like it's a auto complete sound.

can this be turned off?

Client is using jaws 2020, outlook 2016.

in advance thanks for your help.

 

 

 

 

Dear Valued Customer:

 

Thank you for contacting Vispero™ Technical Support.

 

Please edit the outlook.jcf file located in the user settings folder and add the  following to that file .  To get to the user setting folder:

  1. Press Insert+J for the JAWS interface.
  2. From the utilities menu, choose Explore Utilities folder, then choose explore my settings.
  3. Open the outlook.jcf file in notepad.
  4. Add the following  to the end of the file:

 

 

[NonJCFOptions]

;  sounds for when autocomplete list appears and disappears,

;  for message header fields when entering contacts.

AutoCompleteListEnterSound=1OutlookAutocompleteEnterSound.wav

AutoCompleteListExitSound=1OutlookAutocompleteExitSound.wav

 

If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, please don't hesitate to contact us.

 

If replying to this message, be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.

 

Regards,

 

Jose Tamayo

Vispero | Technical Support Specialist

17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560, Clearwater, FL 33764

T 727-803-8600 F 727-803-8001

support@...

www.vispero.com

 

Let us know how we are doing by completing a

short survey.

 

From: David Whitehead <davidwhitehead1957@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 7:07 AM
To: Vispero Technical Support <support@...>
Subject: Auto complete sound

 

To whom it may concern;

A client has asked me how to turn off a sound in outlook 2016.

when she creates new message, and starts typing a email address a sound is heard. it seems like it's a auto complete sound.

can this be turned off?

Client is using jaws 2020, outlook 2016.

in advance thanks for your help.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 5:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi Mike

yes, of courzse.

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi Sugar,

 

When FS Support lets you know how to stop the popping sounds, would please share with this list and the Jaws list? 

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:30 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, indeed. I did write to them and they replied.

they asked if I wanted instructions to stop the popping noise, I said yes of course

smile

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m very curious to see what FS has to say. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:25 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

hi

this only happens on outlook when I’m typing an e mail

I do have my settings on Manual for the browser)google)

thanks

sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

What happens in another autocomplete context.  Does your browser guess about addresses you type in the address bar and change the suggestion as you add more to the address?  If so, does the current JAWS produce a sound as the suggestion changes?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

strange, well, thank you anyways

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hmmm, it did on this end.

Did you exit and return to outlook?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Ok, I did what you instructed but it didn’t work

thanks, I appreciate it

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Try opening up word, go to options with alt f, followed by t, in the list of categories, press A until you get to accessibility.

Tab into the list and down arrow until you hear provide feedback with sound. If that box is checked, uncheck it. I would shift tab back to the ok button and activate it.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, thank you.

I didn’t do that with Jaws 21.

so I would like to know how to stop that.

thanks again

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m guessing here, outlook is populating email addresses as you’re typing in the to field.

I hear that popping sound as well when I type in the to field.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi all

I am going to try this here.

just installed Jaws 22.

I am using windows 10, outlook 2016 and on a desk top

 

when I go to send a new e mail, I hear a popping news and then it goes away when I get to the subject line

as if it is telling me t pick what e mail ZI want to use

very strange.

I did notify Sparrow and I am waiting for their instructions on how to remove this

in the mean time, does anyone else experience this strange popping noise?

thanks Sugar

 

“A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others throw at them.”

🙏 -Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at:

 

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

Sugar

 


Re: popping when filling out an e mail

david
 

Hello;

I had a client who also had this issue, here's the response from Vispero;

Here's the question/response,

 

 

To whom it may concern;

A client has asked me how to turn off a sound in outlook 2016.

when she creates new message, and starts typing a email address a sound is heard. it seems like it's a auto complete sound.

can this be turned off?

Client is using jaws 2020, outlook 2016.

in advance thanks for your help.

 

 

 

 

Dear Valued Customer:

 

Thank you for contacting Vispero™ Technical Support.

 

Please edit the outlook.jcf file located in the user settings folder and add the  following to that file .  To get to the user setting folder:

  1. Press Insert+J for the JAWS interface.
  2. From the utilities menu, choose Explore Utilities folder, then choose explore my settings.
  3. Open the outlook.jcf file in notepad.
  4. Add the following  to the end of the file:

 

 

[NonJCFOptions]

;  sounds for when autocomplete list appears and disappears,

;  for message header fields when entering contacts.

AutoCompleteListEnterSound=1OutlookAutocompleteEnterSound.wav

AutoCompleteListExitSound=1OutlookAutocompleteExitSound.wav

 

If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, please don't hesitate to contact us.

 

If replying to this message, be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.

 

Regards,

 

Jose Tamayo

Vispero | Technical Support Specialist

17757 US Highway 19 N, Suite 560, Clearwater, FL 33764

T 727-803-8600 F 727-803-8001

support@...

www.vispero.com

 

Let us know how we are doing by completing a

short survey.

 

From: David Whitehead <davidwhitehead1957@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 7:07 AM
To: Vispero Technical Support <support@...>
Subject: Auto complete sound

 

To whom it may concern;

A client has asked me how to turn off a sound in outlook 2016.

when she creates new message, and starts typing a email address a sound is heard. it seems like it's a auto complete sound.

can this be turned off?

Client is using jaws 2020, outlook 2016.

in advance thanks for your help.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 5:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi Mike

yes, of courzse.

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi Sugar,

 

When FS Support lets you know how to stop the popping sounds, would please share with this list and the Jaws list? 

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:30 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, indeed. I did write to them and they replied.

they asked if I wanted instructions to stop the popping noise, I said yes of course

smile

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m very curious to see what FS has to say. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:25 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

hi

this only happens on outlook when I’m typing an e mail

I do have my settings on Manual for the browser)google)

thanks

sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

What happens in another autocomplete context.  Does your browser guess about addresses you type in the address bar and change the suggestion as you add more to the address?  If so, does the current JAWS produce a sound as the suggestion changes?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

strange, well, thank you anyways

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hmmm, it did on this end.

Did you exit and return to outlook?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Ok, I did what you instructed but it didn’t work

thanks, I appreciate it

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Try opening up word, go to options with alt f, followed by t, in the list of categories, press A until you get to accessibility.

Tab into the list and down arrow until you hear provide feedback with sound. If that box is checked, uncheck it. I would shift tab back to the ok button and activate it.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, thank you.

I didn’t do that with Jaws 21.

so I would like to know how to stop that.

thanks again

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m guessing here, outlook is populating email addresses as you’re typing in the to field.

I hear that popping sound as well when I type in the to field.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi all

I am going to try this here.

just installed Jaws 22.

I am using windows 10, outlook 2016 and on a desk top

 

when I go to send a new e mail, I hear a popping news and then it goes away when I get to the subject line

as if it is telling me t pick what e mail ZI want to use

very strange.

I did notify Sparrow and I am waiting for their instructions on how to remove this

in the mean time, does anyone else experience this strange popping noise?

thanks Sugar

 

“A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others throw at them.”

🙏 -Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at:

 

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

Sugar

 


Re: Ear buds for PC?

Curtis Delzer
 

One thing which is nice about the Bose Quiet Comfort products is that they (1) can connect to 2 blue tooth devices and (2) announce which they are currently paired with. I had the quiet comfort qc35 over the head phones, not ear buds but am making an assumption that the earbuds would do the same as the head phones. I sent them back because they are expensive, and I need a pair of phones which can do blue tooth and 1/8-inch audio input simultaneously. I had a pair but they literally broke. The quiet comfort can do 2 blue tooth devices but not simultaneous audio, nor can they do 1/8-inch audio input plus simultaneous blue tooth, and they provide a sort of external microphone which connects to a input jack for support and connection, turning the stereo headphones into mono ones for presumed mono production of your potential stereo computer which turned me off, though they worked fine with my iPhone.

People assume that your Skype or Zoom calls will be in mono, when in fact there are many potential exceptions to this; audio production of songs for a show in stereo? and you need to talk with it maybe in mono but you must hear in stereo, JAWS new mode for sending jfw to one channel and the audio from Zoom or Skype to the other, which negate the quiet comfort's necessity to be in mono for Zoom or Skype calls, etc.

So, as I said I did send them back.

I used the Tribit X-Free which sound very nice, but now Amazon is out of them, and I don't recommend their noise reduction models for it seems in no way can you simultaneously run blue tooth and 1/8-inch audio input whenever there is the noise reduction algorithm used in head phones.

BTW, for anyone interested, the very best noise reduction phones are Sony WH1000 XM4, (or 3) which are actually amazing. Soundcore are quite good for noise reduction as well, and for the price do sound about as good as very high quality audio-file type phones. Very little latency over blue tooth too, where the Sonys have a lag.


On 10/26/2021 12:09 PM, Marie Nelson wrote:

Using the over the head headphones gives me a headache if worn for any extended period. However, I have not yet found any ear buds which work well with my Windows PC. There always seems to be too much lag time with Bluetooth and it is annoying.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I do a lot of Zoom calls which are best with headphones so, I don’t mind spending a bit of money if I can find some which work well.

Has anyone used the Bose Quiet Comfort buds with a PC?

Thanks for any input.

Marie

 

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Re: popping when filling out an e mail

Sugar
 

Hi Mike

yes, of courzse.

Sugar

 

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- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi Sugar,

 

When FS Support lets you know how to stop the popping sounds, would please share with this list and the Jaws list? 

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:30 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, indeed. I did write to them and they replied.

they asked if I wanted instructions to stop the popping noise, I said yes of course

smile

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m very curious to see what FS has to say. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:25 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

hi

this only happens on outlook when I’m typing an e mail

I do have my settings on Manual for the browser)google)

thanks

sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

What happens in another autocomplete context.  Does your browser guess about addresses you type in the address bar and change the suggestion as you add more to the address?  If so, does the current JAWS produce a sound as the suggestion changes?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

strange, well, thank you anyways

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hmmm, it did on this end.

Did you exit and return to outlook?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Ok, I did what you instructed but it didn’t work

thanks, I appreciate it

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Try opening up word, go to options with alt f, followed by t, in the list of categories, press A until you get to accessibility.

Tab into the list and down arrow until you hear provide feedback with sound. If that box is checked, uncheck it. I would shift tab back to the ok button and activate it.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, thank you.

I didn’t do that with Jaws 21.

so I would like to know how to stop that.

thanks again

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m guessing here, outlook is populating email addresses as you’re typing in the to field.

I hear that popping sound as well when I type in the to field.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi all

I am going to try this here.

just installed Jaws 22.

I am using windows 10, outlook 2016 and on a desk top

 

when I go to send a new e mail, I hear a popping news and then it goes away when I get to the subject line

as if it is telling me t pick what e mail ZI want to use

very strange.

I did notify Sparrow and I am waiting for their instructions on how to remove this

in the mean time, does anyone else experience this strange popping noise?

thanks Sugar

 

“A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others throw at them.”

🙏 -Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at:

 

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

Sugar

 


Re: popping when filling out an e mail

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 


Hi Sugar,
 
When FS Support lets you know how to stop the popping sounds, would please share with this list and the Jaws list? 
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

yes, indeed. I did write to them and they replied.

they asked if I wanted instructions to stop the popping noise, I said yes of course

smile

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:29 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m very curious to see what FS has to say. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:25 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

hi

this only happens on outlook when I’m typing an e mail

I do have my settings on Manual for the browser)google)

thanks

sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 2:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

What happens in another autocomplete context.  Does your browser guess about addresses you type in the address bar and change the suggestion as you add more to the address?  If so, does the current JAWS produce a sound as the suggestion changes?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Sugar

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 4:14 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

strange, well, thank you anyways

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hmmm, it did on this end.

Did you exit and return to outlook?

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Ok, I did what you instructed but it didn’t work

thanks, I appreciate it

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Try opening up word, go to options with alt f, followed by t, in the list of categories, press A until you get to accessibility.

Tab into the list and down arrow until you hear provide feedback with sound. If that box is checked, uncheck it. I would shift tab back to the ok button and activate it.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 1:02 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

yes, thank you.

I didn’t do that with Jaws 21.

so I would like to know how to stop that.

thanks again

Sugar

 

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”

- - Winnie the Pooh

 

Please walk with me through a second chance of life:

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

 

-Sugar, ❤😘

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimsan via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:59 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

I’m guessing here, outlook is populating email addresses as you’re typing in the to field.

I hear that popping sound as well when I type in the to field.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sugar
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:50 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] popping when filling out an e mail

 

Hi all

I am going to try this here.

just installed Jaws 22.

I am using windows 10, outlook 2016 and on a desk top

 

when I go to send a new e mail, I hear a popping news and then it goes away when I get to the subject line

as if it is telling me t pick what e mail ZI want to use

very strange.

I did notify Sparrow and I am waiting for their instructions on how to remove this

in the mean time, does anyone else experience this strange popping noise?

thanks Sugar

 

“A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others throw at them.”

🙏 -Please support me in my journey to another opportunity of life at:

 

https://www.gofundme.com/sugars-transplant-journey

Sugar

 

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