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Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Marilyn and Don Bilderback
 

Hello,

 

I have been using a wireless keyboard,  and there is also a mouse for my husband,  for 16 years.  They have served us well for all this time.

 

 

One question though.  When does a keyboard become outdated or incompatible with the tower or screen?  Is there a rule of thumb about replacing the keyboard besides condition or looks or just because you want to?

 

Marilyn

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 8:43 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi Janet,

 

I’ve been using a wireless keyboard and mouse for  a couple of hears.

They ar very reliable.

The battery in them seems to last a  very long time.  I mean  probably a year or 2 at least.

It’s not like you have to put in new or recharged batteries every month or so.

Also, most printers and scanners now come with the wireless option.

A wireless keyboard and mouse  may cost 20 or 30 u s dollars and up.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: November 11, 2021 9:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi,

Yes, now that is what I’m thinking about, as that should limit several wires.  I’m just not for sure how reliable the wireless is though. 

 

Janet

 

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From: Monte Single
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 8:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi Janet,  you can buy wireless keyboards, mice, speakers, printers and scanner and speakers  which cost little more than the wired ones.

You can likely  get rid of all the computer cables except the power cord.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: November 11, 2021 8:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi John,

Thank you so much for this.  I don’t want an old processor though.  I am seeing just how expensive Windows 11 is.  Maybe because Windows 11 is new.  But, if I could at least get Windows ten, and use that for a couple years, and then download Windows 11 on the Windows ten, but that doesn’t look like it’s going to happen right now, and I want a desktop now, as I just can’t stand this Laptop

  

 

Janet  

 

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From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Well,

So is that the highest you can go in price?

Or are you willing to make a cut somewhere.

The nearest to what you wanted I could find was 16GB of ram , 512GB SSD, but the processor is pretty old by now a 6th generation core I7.

It’d run Windows 10 for 5 years just fine but Windows 11 you’d be out of luck.

Its $649 on Best Buy and the next one up is higher than your price bracit.

HP Refurbished ProDesk 600 G3 Desktop Intel Core i7 16GB Memory 512GB SSD Black 600 G3-SFF - Best Buy

It is for sure not an all-in one but is an SFF.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 5:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi John,

I would like ram I16, One tera SSD.  Built in speakers.  A full size keyboard with a application  key. 

 

Janet  

 

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From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I can find you Windows 11 stuff for $699 on  Best Buy Easily.

How mucn a RAM and SSD space do you want?

Thanks,

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Gene,

 and that isn’t even including the taxes. 

I would love not to have the tower.  As far as the miniaturization, I’m fine with that, as all that comes with the computer is the monitor and the keyboard.  Best Buy said if need be, they work on these computers the same way as if the computer had a tower.  Although, the keyboard didn’t have a application key, as it had a FN key on each side of the space bar.   I asked them what happened to the application key, they said they never heard of an application key on any keyboard.  I know there is another way to use the application if the keyboard didn’t have

one, but I don’t remember what that is.  They didn’t have any Windows 11 for $699 , other than some Windows ten with very little ram,  I just can’t see myself paying that much!  LOL!  I do have my keyboard from Windows 7, but I still can’t stand that Laptop, 

 

 

Janet

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

How important is no tower?  I haven’t seen the kind of computer you are discussing, but I’ve seen brief discussions of them off and on.  Based on what you say, you may be paying a lot for miniaturization. 

 

Also, I hope others discuss repair, if it becomes necessary.  Is it practical to repair such machines? 

 

I would think that, on sale, you could get a machine for six hundred dollars, perhaps less that would meet your needs.  Do you actually want two computers or do you want a desktop since you no longer have one?  If you get an external keyboard, you can operate your laptop as though it were a desktop. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:00 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to buy a new desktop computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as long as I am here, I decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I really liked, but I didn’t like the price in which was 13 hundred dollars!  LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really did like is it had no tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just everything that is in the tower, is in the monitor,  and the monitor isn’t all that big.  It also didn’t have a cd drive tray, but I’m not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my question is has anyone seen these new computers like this, and if so, can you please share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet 

 

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Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Monte Single
 

Hi Janet,

 

I’ve been using a wireless keyboard and mouse for  a couple of hears.

They ar very reliable.

The battery in them seems to last a  very long time.  I mean  probably a year or 2 at least.

It’s not like you have to put in new or recharged batteries every month or so.

Also, most printers and scanners now come with the wireless option.

A wireless keyboard and mouse  may cost 20 or 30 u s dollars and up.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: November 11, 2021 9:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi,

Yes, now that is what I’m thinking about, as that should limit several wires.  I’m just not for sure how reliable the wireless is though. 

 

Janet

 

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From: Monte Single
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 8:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi Janet,  you can buy wireless keyboards, mice, speakers, printers and scanner and speakers  which cost little more than the wired ones.

You can likely  get rid of all the computer cables except the power cord.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: November 11, 2021 8:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi John,

Thank you so much for this.  I don’t want an old processor though.  I am seeing just how expensive Windows 11 is.  Maybe because Windows 11 is new.  But, if I could at least get Windows ten, and use that for a couple years, and then download Windows 11 on the Windows ten, but that doesn’t look like it’s going to happen right now, and I want a desktop now, as I just can’t stand this Laptop

  

 

Janet  

 

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From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Well,

So is that the highest you can go in price?

Or are you willing to make a cut somewhere.

The nearest to what you wanted I could find was 16GB of ram , 512GB SSD, but the processor is pretty old by now a 6th generation core I7.

It’d run Windows 10 for 5 years just fine but Windows 11 you’d be out of luck.

Its $649 on Best Buy and the next one up is higher than your price bracit.

HP Refurbished ProDesk 600 G3 Desktop Intel Core i7 16GB Memory 512GB SSD Black 600 G3-SFF - Best Buy

It is for sure not an all-in one but is an SFF.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 5:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi John,

I would like ram I16, One tera SSD.  Built in speakers.  A full size keyboard with a application  key. 

 

Janet  

 

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From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I can find you Windows 11 stuff for $699 on  Best Buy Easily.

How mucn a RAM and SSD space do you want?

Thanks,

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Gene,

 and that isn’t even including the taxes. 

I would love not to have the tower.  As far as the miniaturization, I’m fine with that, as all that comes with the computer is the monitor and the keyboard.  Best Buy said if need be, they work on these computers the same way as if the computer had a tower.  Although, the keyboard didn’t have a application key, as it had a FN key on each side of the space bar.   I asked them what happened to the application key, they said they never heard of an application key on any keyboard.  I know there is another way to use the application if the keyboard didn’t have

one, but I don’t remember what that is.  They didn’t have any Windows 11 for $699 , other than some Windows ten with very little ram,  I just can’t see myself paying that much!  LOL!  I do have my keyboard from Windows 7, but I still can’t stand that Laptop, 

 

 

Janet

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

How important is no tower?  I haven’t seen the kind of computer you are discussing, but I’ve seen brief discussions of them off and on.  Based on what you say, you may be paying a lot for miniaturization. 

 

Also, I hope others discuss repair, if it becomes necessary.  Is it practical to repair such machines? 

 

I would think that, on sale, you could get a machine for six hundred dollars, perhaps less that would meet your needs.  Do you actually want two computers or do you want a desktop since you no longer have one?  If you get an external keyboard, you can operate your laptop as though it were a desktop. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:00 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to buy a new desktop computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as long as I am here, I decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I really liked, but I didn’t like the price in which was 13 hundred dollars!  LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really did like is it had no tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just everything that is in the tower, is in the monitor,  and the monitor isn’t all that big.  It also didn’t have a cd drive tray, but I’m not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my question is has anyone seen these new computers like this, and if so, can you please share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet 

 

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Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Gene
 

The computer may be underpowered or there may be something wrong with it.  Whether you buy another laptop or not, there are a lot of laptops that perform very well. 
 
I don’t know whether some of your problems are that you don’t like the keyboard and some may be that the computer is underpowered.  There is no reason, from a performance standpoint, leaving aside the keyboard, that a laptop needs to be slow and a lot aren’t.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.
 

John,

I hate the Laptop because I have to pound the hell out of the keys in order to get to type.  The Laptop is so sluggish and slow, and this is rather I’m using NVDA or JAWS.  I bought this Laptop in Jan of this year, and it is just to dang slow, it drives me crazy.  Although, I will keep it even after I get a desktop just for a backup.  Chances of me ever buying another Laptop are very slim!  LOL!  But I am used to using a desktop, so I’m not sure if that is why I am having a very difficult time with this dang thing. 

 

Janet

 

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From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Why do you hate the laptop so much?

Also its called an All-in-one.

You can find Windows 11 towers on  Bestbuy.com and other places.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Gene,

I couldn’t find any desktops for Windows Ten other than  ram being only I3, and I don’t want that.  I’m not for sure if all the Windows 11 machines are not going to have the towers anymore, but Wow, that sure is nice.  I think if it needed to be worked on, it wouldn’t be that difficult       to take it to Best Buy.  I even asked at Best Buy yesterday if they could take a look at my Windows 7, and they said they don’t go to the house to repair computers anymore, and that people will need to bring the computer in for repair.  I can’t stand using this Laptop in which I just bought last Jan of this year. 

 

Janet

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

How important is no tower?  I haven’t seen the kind of computer you are discussing, but I’ve seen brief discussions of them off and on.  Based on what you say, you may be paying a lot for miniaturization. 

 

Also, I hope others discuss repair, if it becomes necessary.  Is it practical to repair such machines? 

 

I would think that, on sale, you could get a machine for six hundred dollars, perhaps less that would meet your needs.  Do you actually want two computers or do you want a desktop since you no longer have one?  If you get an external keyboard, you can operate your laptop as though it were a desktop. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:00 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to buy a new desktop computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as long as I am here, I decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I really liked, but I didn’t like the price in which was 13 hundred dollars!  LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really did like is it had no tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just everything that is in the tower, is in the monitor,  and the monitor isn’t all that big.  It also didn’t have a cd drive tray, but I’m not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my question is has anyone seen these new computers like this, and if so, can you please share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet 

 

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Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Gene
 

On thinking about the article, it came from 2015.  I would imagine that advances in computer power has allowed good performing computers to be made in this way but I still think you pay a lot more for comparable performance. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.
 

Gene,

Thank you for the article, as I did learn something from it. 

 

Janet

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I’m not sure I agree with all the arguments in the article but I think that, overall, you aren’t getting your money’s worth.  I suspect you will be spending perhaps two or three hundred dollars more for a machine that is no better. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:41 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

There will be lots of Windows 11 machines with towers.  Machines without towers have been around for many years but my concern is that you may be paying a lot of money for the miniaturization so you will get a much more expensive machine that is no more powerful.

 

This article makes powerful arguments against buying an all in one computer. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:32 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I wasn’t discussing Windows 10.  I was asking if you particularly want a machine such as you are describing.  It may be, though others will have to comment, that you are paying a lot more for the same power of machine because you are getting one without a tower, since the parts may be very miniaturized.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:24 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Gene,

I couldn’t find any desktops for Windows Ten other than  ram being only I3, and I don’t want that.  I’m not for sure if all the Windows 11 machines are not going to have the towers anymore, but Wow, that sure is nice.  I think if it needed to be worked on, it wouldn’t be that difficult       to take it to Best Buy.  I even asked at Best Buy yesterday if they could take a look at my Windows 7, and they said they don’t go to the house to repair computers anymore, and that people will need to bring the computer in for repair.  I can’t stand using this Laptop in which I just bought last Jan of this year. 

 

Janet

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

How important is no tower?  I haven’t seen the kind of computer you are discussing, but I’ve seen brief discussions of them off and on.  Based on what you say, you may be paying a lot for miniaturization. 

 

Also, I hope others discuss repair, if it becomes necessary.  Is it practical to repair such machines? 

 

I would think that, on sale, you could get a machine for six hundred dollars, perhaps less that would meet your needs.  Do you actually want two computers or do you want a desktop since you no longer have one?  If you get an external keyboard, you can operate your laptop as though it were a desktop. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:00 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to buy a new desktop computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as long as I am here, I decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I really liked, but I didn’t like the price in which was 13 hundred dollars!  LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really did like is it had no tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just everything that is in the tower, is in the monitor,  and the monitor isn’t all that big.  It also didn’t have a cd drive tray, but I’m not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my question is has anyone seen these new computers like this, and if so, can you please share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet 

 

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Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Gene
 

Wireless components are reliable.  A lot of people use them.  When it comes to keyboards, I would get recommendations here because I’m not sure if all wireless keyboards are compatible with screen-reader commands.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.
 

Hi,

Yes, now that is what I’m thinking about, as that should limit several wires.  I’m just not for sure how reliable the wireless is though. 

 

Janet

 

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From: Monte Single
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 8:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi Janet,  you can buy wireless keyboards, mice, speakers, printers and scanner and speakers  which cost little more than the wired ones.

You can likely  get rid of all the computer cables except the power cord.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: November 11, 2021 8:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi John,

Thank you so much for this.  I don’t want an old processor though.  I am seeing just how expensive Windows 11 is.  Maybe because Windows 11 is new.  But, if I could at least get Windows ten, and use that for a couple years, and then download Windows 11 on the Windows ten, but that doesn’t look like it’s going to happen right now, and I want a desktop now, as I just can’t stand this Laptop

 

 

Janet 

 

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From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Well,

So is that the highest you can go in price?

Or are you willing to make a cut somewhere.

The nearest to what you wanted I could find was 16GB of ram , 512GB SSD, but the processor is pretty old by now a 6th generation core I7.

It’d run Windows 10 for 5 years just fine but Windows 11 you’d be out of luck.

Its $649 on Best Buy and the next one up is higher than your price bracit.

HP Refurbished ProDesk 600 G3 Desktop Intel Core i7 16GB Memory 512GB SSD Black 600 G3-SFF - Best Buy

It is for sure not an all-in one but is an SFF.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 5:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi John,

I would like ram I16, One tera SSD.  Built in speakers.  A full size keyboard with a application  key. 

 

Janet 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I can find you Windows 11 stuff for $699 on  Best Buy Easily.

How mucn a RAM and SSD space do you want?

Thanks,

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Gene,

and that isn’t even including the taxes. 

I would love not to have the tower.  As far as the miniaturization, I’m fine with that, as all that comes with the computer is the monitor and the keyboard.  Best Buy said if need be, they work on these computers the same way as if the computer had a tower.  Although, the keyboard didn’t have a application key, as it had a FN key on each side of the space bar.   I asked them what happened to the application key, they said they never heard of an application key on any keyboard.  I know there is another way to use the application if the keyboard didn’t have

one, but I don’t remember what that is.  They didn’t have any Windows 11 for $699 , other than some Windows ten with very little ram,  I just can’t see myself paying that much!  LOL!  I do have my keyboard from Windows 7, but I still can’t stand that Laptop, 

 

 

Janet

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

How important is no tower?  I haven’t seen the kind of computer you are discussing, but I’ve seen brief discussions of them off and on.  Based on what you say, you may be paying a lot for miniaturization. 

 

Also, I hope others discuss repair, if it becomes necessary.  Is it practical to repair such machines? 

 

I would think that, on sale, you could get a machine for six hundred dollars, perhaps less that would meet your needs.  Do you actually want two computers or do you want a desktop since you no longer have one?  If you get an external keyboard, you can operate your laptop as though it were a desktop. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:00 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to buy a new desktop computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as long as I am here, I decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I really liked, but I didn’t like the price in which was 13 hundred dollars!  LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really did like is it had no tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just everything that is in the tower, is in the monitor,  and the monitor isn’t all that big.  It also didn’t have a cd drive tray, but I’m not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my question is has anyone seen these new computers like this, and if so, can you please share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet 

 

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Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Janet
 

Gene,

I will get in touch with Kevin who Mike gave me his email address.  I do want to get rid of all these wires.  I can use a Bluetooth wireless keyboard, wireless speakers, etc, but I have to keep the wires for Magic Jack phone though.  I am just sick to death of all these wires just hanging every where. 

 

Janet

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 8:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I'm not sure what Janet's maximum price is.  It sounds, however, as though she is interested in a computer offered by the person Mike recommended. 

 

Whomever she buys from, I think we should be able to solve the problems she is worried about by discussing wireless components. 

 

Gene

On 11/11/2021 7:51 PM, John Holcomb II wrote:

I couldn’t even find an all in one for her price at Best Buy.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 8:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

There are much cheaper ways of doing away with wires than getting an all in one unit.  Or you will get much better quality for a much cheaper price if you do.   You can get a wireless keyboard and wireless speakers. 

 

While you should be able to get an all in one unit that will meet your needs well, you will spend more money, I suspect hundreds of dollars more for no better quality. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 7:27 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi,

Yes, I would keep my small monitor too.  The only thing I can’t stand about the chunky-tall tower is all the wires.  My computer desk has wheels on it, and it is a real pain to move the desk when I need to clean my floors, because all the wires are all wrapped  together,

and some of the wires come apart, and I have to wait for someone with sight to come over and connect the wires back together, and sometimes that can take a few days, so there for, I have no computer for some time. 

 

 

Janet

 

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From: Loy
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 7:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

My preference in a computer is a tower not nessaryly the tall ones. Mainly because they are easier to work on or add to And you usually get more for the money in a desktop. I just keep my old monitor from earlier desktop, only use if a sighted person is using the computer

 

 

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Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Janet
 

Hi,

Yes, now that is what I’m thinking about, as that should limit several wires.  I’m just not for sure how reliable the wireless is though. 

 

Janet

 

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From: Monte Single
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 8:21 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi Janet,  you can buy wireless keyboards, mice, speakers, printers and scanner and speakers  which cost little more than the wired ones.

You can likely  get rid of all the computer cables except the power cord.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: November 11, 2021 8:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi John,

Thank you so much for this.  I don’t want an old processor though.  I am seeing just how expensive Windows 11 is.  Maybe because Windows 11 is new.  But, if I could at least get Windows ten, and use that for a couple years, and then download Windows 11 on the Windows ten, but that doesn’t look like it’s going to happen right now, and I want a desktop now, as I just can’t stand this Laptop

  

 

Janet  

 

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From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Well,

So is that the highest you can go in price?

Or are you willing to make a cut somewhere.

The nearest to what you wanted I could find was 16GB of ram , 512GB SSD, but the processor is pretty old by now a 6th generation core I7.

It’d run Windows 10 for 5 years just fine but Windows 11 you’d be out of luck.

Its $649 on Best Buy and the next one up is higher than your price bracit.

HP Refurbished ProDesk 600 G3 Desktop Intel Core i7 16GB Memory 512GB SSD Black 600 G3-SFF - Best Buy

It is for sure not an all-in one but is an SFF.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 5:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi John,

I would like ram I16, One tera SSD.  Built in speakers.  A full size keyboard with a application  key. 

 

Janet  

 

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From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I can find you Windows 11 stuff for $699 on  Best Buy Easily.

How mucn a RAM and SSD space do you want?

Thanks,

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Gene,

 and that isn’t even including the taxes. 

I would love not to have the tower.  As far as the miniaturization, I’m fine with that, as all that comes with the computer is the monitor and the keyboard.  Best Buy said if need be, they work on these computers the same way as if the computer had a tower.  Although, the keyboard didn’t have a application key, as it had a FN key on each side of the space bar.   I asked them what happened to the application key, they said they never heard of an application key on any keyboard.  I know there is another way to use the application if the keyboard didn’t have

one, but I don’t remember what that is.  They didn’t have any Windows 11 for $699 , other than some Windows ten with very little ram,  I just can’t see myself paying that much!  LOL!  I do have my keyboard from Windows 7, but I still can’t stand that Laptop, 

 

 

Janet

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

How important is no tower?  I haven’t seen the kind of computer you are discussing, but I’ve seen brief discussions of them off and on.  Based on what you say, you may be paying a lot for miniaturization. 

 

Also, I hope others discuss repair, if it becomes necessary.  Is it practical to repair such machines? 

 

I would think that, on sale, you could get a machine for six hundred dollars, perhaps less that would meet your needs.  Do you actually want two computers or do you want a desktop since you no longer have one?  If you get an external keyboard, you can operate your laptop as though it were a desktop. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:00 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to buy a new desktop computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as long as I am here, I decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I really liked, but I didn’t like the price in which was 13 hundred dollars!  LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really did like is it had no tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just everything that is in the tower, is in the monitor,  and the monitor isn’t all that big.  It also didn’t have a cd drive tray, but I’m not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my question is has anyone seen these new computers like this, and if so, can you please share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet 

 

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Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Monte Single
 

Janet,

One best buy store is not a true sample of what is available.

Keep looking.  If you get bored or disappointed, take a break.

You will find what you want at the price you can afford.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: November 11, 2021 8:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi Monte,

I don’t care about a monitor, but if I need work done on the pc, sighted people need that.  I will keep my small monitor though as well as my keyboard, even though I think the keyboard will just give out as well, as it is starting to make some strange sounds when I press certain keys.  I liked the Dell all in one just for the simple fact, I wouldn’t have all those wires hanging.  I can’t find a half way good pc for the price you are saying, or maybe I should say, not for what I want on the pc.  When I was at Best Buy store, that is all that they had except one HP, and that was all in one as well, and the same price. 

 

Janet

 

 

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From: Monte Single
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:47 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

The unit you looket at yesterday is called an all in one.

You pay more for these devices.

If you are a blind user, why do you need a new monitor.

There are lots of new win11 ready machines out there for  six to seven hundred  U S dollars 

Pick any popular brand name and you will find several options.

Hust make  sure the p c can run win11,  even if it does come with win10.

There are lots of choices.

1300 u s dollars is totally out of line for a basic win11 computer.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: November 11, 2021 3:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to buy a new desktop computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as long as I am here, I decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I really liked, but I didn’t like the price in which was 13 hundred dollars!  LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really did like is it had no tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just everything that is in the tower, is in the monitor,  and the monitor isn’t all that big.  It also didn’t have a cd drive tray, but I’m not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my question is has anyone seen these new computers like this, and if so, can you please share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet  

 

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Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Monte Single
 

When I could still se, 8 years ago,  the application or context key on many keyboards,  did not have any words or letters on it.

Instead, there was usually an image of a page with a f few lines indicating text, maybe..

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: November 11, 2021 8:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

John,

Ok, I can understand what you are saying about they might not even know about the application key, but isn’t there something on the application key so they would know what it is?

 

Janet

 

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From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I can picture someone never hearing of that.
Most sited people I know of do not use the keyboard like you and I.
They probably wouldn't even know that the applications key is the same as
clicking the right mouse click button on their mouse..


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 5:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

If no Application Key, press Shift+F10, that is, if you have the standard
function above the numbers on your keyboard.

I can't imagine someone never even hearing of an Application Key.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

Gene,

 and that isn't even including the taxes. 

I would love not to have the tower.  As far as the miniaturization, I'm fine
with that, as all that comes with the computer is the monitor and the
keyboard.  Best Buy said if need be, they work on these computers the same
way as if the computer had a tower.  Although, the keyboard didn't have a
application key, as it had a FN key on each side of
the space bar.   I asked them what happened to the
application key, they said they never heard of an application key on any
keyboard.  I know there is another way to use the application if the
keyboard didn't have

one, but I don't remember what that is.  They didn't have any Windows 11 for
$699 , other than some Windows ten with very little ram,  I just can't see
myself paying that much!
LOL!  I do have my keyboard from Windows 7, but I still can't stand that
Laptop, 

 

 

Janet

 

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From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

How important is no tower?  I haven't seen the kind of computer you are
discussing, but I've seen brief discussions of them off and on.  Based on
what you say, you may be paying a lot for miniaturization. 

 

Also, I hope others discuss repair, if it becomes necessary.
Is it practical to repair such machines? 

 

I would think that, on sale, you could get a machine for six hundred
dollars, perhaps less that would meet your needs.
Do you actually want two computers or do you want a desktop since you no
longer have one?  If you get an external keyboard, you can operate your
laptop as though it were a desktop. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet <mailto:janet.harvard@...

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:00 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>


Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to buy a new desktop
computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as
long as I am here, I decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I
really liked, but I didn't like the price in which was 13 hundred dollars!
LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really did like is it had no
tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just everything that is in the tower, is in
the monitor,  and the monitor isn't all that big.  It also didn't have a cd
drive tray, but I'm not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my question
is has anyone seen these new computers like this, and if so, can you please
share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet 

 

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Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Janet
 

Gene,

Thank you for the article, as I did learn something from it. 

 

Janet

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:45 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I’m not sure I agree with all the arguments in the article but I think that, overall, you aren’t getting your money’s worth.  I suspect you will be spending perhaps two or three hundred dollars more for a machine that is no better. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:41 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

There will be lots of Windows 11 machines with towers.  Machines without towers have been around for many years but my concern is that you may be paying a lot of money for the miniaturization so you will get a much more expensive machine that is no more powerful.

 

This article makes powerful arguments against buying an all in one computer. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:32 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I wasn’t discussing Windows 10.  I was asking if you particularly want a machine such as you are describing.  It may be, though others will have to comment, that you are paying a lot more for the same power of machine because you are getting one without a tower, since the parts may be very miniaturized.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:24 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Gene,

I couldn’t find any desktops for Windows Ten other than  ram being only I3, and I don’t want that.  I’m not for sure if all the Windows 11 machines are not going to have the towers anymore, but Wow, that sure is nice.  I think if it needed to be worked on, it wouldn’t be that difficult       to take it to Best Buy.  I even asked at Best Buy yesterday if they could take a look at my Windows 7, and they said they don’t go to the house to repair computers anymore, and that people will need to bring the computer in for repair.  I can’t stand using this Laptop in which I just bought last Jan of this year. 

 

Janet

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

How important is no tower?  I haven’t seen the kind of computer you are discussing, but I’ve seen brief discussions of them off and on.  Based on what you say, you may be paying a lot for miniaturization. 

 

Also, I hope others discuss repair, if it becomes necessary.  Is it practical to repair such machines? 

 

I would think that, on sale, you could get a machine for six hundred dollars, perhaps less that would meet your needs.  Do you actually want two computers or do you want a desktop since you no longer have one?  If you get an external keyboard, you can operate your laptop as though it were a desktop. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:00 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to buy a new desktop computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as long as I am here, I decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I really liked, but I didn’t like the price in which was 13 hundred dollars!  LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really did like is it had no tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just everything that is in the tower, is in the monitor,  and the monitor isn’t all that big.  It also didn’t have a cd drive tray, but I’m not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my question is has anyone seen these new computers like this, and if so, can you please share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet 

 

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Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Janet
 

John,

I hate the Laptop because I have to pound the hell out of the keys in order to get to type.  The Laptop is so sluggish and slow, and this is rather I’m using NVDA or JAWS.  I bought this Laptop in Jan of this year, and it is just to dang slow, it drives me crazy.  Although, I will keep it even after I get a desktop just for a backup.  Chances of me ever buying another Laptop are very slim!  LOL!  But I am used to using a desktop, so I’m not sure if that is why I am having a very difficult time with this dang thing. 

 

Janet

 

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From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Why do you hate the laptop so much?

Also its called an All-in-one.

You can find Windows 11 towers on  Bestbuy.com and other places.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:24 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Gene,

I couldn’t find any desktops for Windows Ten other than  ram being only I3, and I don’t want that.  I’m not for sure if all the Windows 11 machines are not going to have the towers anymore, but Wow, that sure is nice.  I think if it needed to be worked on, it wouldn’t be that difficult       to take it to Best Buy.  I even asked at Best Buy yesterday if they could take a look at my Windows 7, and they said they don’t go to the house to repair computers anymore, and that people will need to bring the computer in for repair.  I can’t stand using this Laptop in which I just bought last Jan of this year.  

 

Janet

 

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From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

How important is no tower?  I haven’t seen the kind of computer you are discussing, but I’ve seen brief discussions of them off and on.  Based on what you say, you may be paying a lot for miniaturization. 

 

Also, I hope others discuss repair, if it becomes necessary.  Is it practical to repair such machines? 

 

I would think that, on sale, you could get a machine for six hundred dollars, perhaps less that would meet your needs.  Do you actually want two computers or do you want a desktop since you no longer have one?  If you get an external keyboard, you can operate your laptop as though it were a desktop. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:00 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to buy a new desktop computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as long as I am here, I decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I really liked, but I didn’t like the price in which was 13 hundred dollars!  LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really did like is it had no tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just everything that is in the tower, is in the monitor,  and the monitor isn’t all that big.  It also didn’t have a cd drive tray, but I’m not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my question is has anyone seen these new computers like this, and if so, can you please share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet 

 

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Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Monte Single
 

I surely did mean 600 u s dollars!

And not sixty!

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: November 11, 2021 8:00 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I agree with Mike B here.

Kevin  has great deals on used or very new laptops and desktops,  even mini pcs.

Over the last few weeks, he has been advertising  some units  that are win11 ready  for around 60 u s dollars.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: November 11, 2021 6:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Yes, the dude has upgrades available at very low prices as well.  SSD's are defintely the way to go!  I've purchased several computers from this guy, his name is kevin, and his upgrade prices are much better than buying drives from Amazon or wherever and he doesn't charge hardly anything to swap them out or make other upgrades.  He has the parts like RAM and hardrives, both spinning or SSD's, in stock.  But, it's necessary not to assume that he always will have computers in stock , but to check with him to see what he has or if you can have him order something for you when you're in the market.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:16 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I was thinking of an SSD for her .

Not a spinning drive.

Really you can tell the difference.

John

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 6:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi Janet,

 

Get ahold of the dude below.  He has great deals on computers and the 1 below is a sample.  But, contact him to see what he currently has available.  They're not brand new, but close to it.

Another one just in!!
 
A short tower with a 6 core 12 thread processor and it's real fast!Built
with the gamers in mind this short tower will really impress!
 
Note:  The 10th generation I5 now supports all the capabilities of the I7
processor! The 10th generation machines are also faster than the newer
11th generation desktops.
 
If your looking for a new computer and want something with incredible
performance and ready for Windows 11 when it comes out, look no further
than this little gem.
 
Bargain priced at $500 it's a huge savings over buying direct from HP.
 
Computer specifics:
Model HP Pavillion 1023
Processor: 10th gen I5 Hex core 10400 running at 2.9ghz and turbo boost
to 4.3ghz
Supports Hyperthread capabilities up to 12 cores
Hard drive 1tb Western Digital 7200 RPM
16GB Optane memory
Ram: 8gb DDR4 - can be upgraded to 32GB
Optical: DVD+/-rw
Networking: Gigabit Ethernet
Wireless: Realtek RTL882* AC
Bluetooth 5.0
USB: USB-C, USB 2.0, HDMI, USB 3.1, USB 3.0 s
Display VGA and HDMI Intel 630
Audio: Hi definition Realtech
Dimentions: 6.5" wide, 13" deep and 11" high
Weight 12.7 pounds
 
Includes keyboard, mouse and power cord.
 
To purchase or for more information, contact Kevin at:
 
nocm@...
 
or call
 
801-765-4329
 
Acceptable forms of payment include Paypal and money orders
 
 

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Janet

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 1:00 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to buy a new desktop computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as long as I am here, I decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I really liked, but I didn’t like the price in which was 13 hundred dollars!  LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really did like is it had no tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just everything that is in the tower, is in the monitor,  and the monitor isn’t all that big.  It also didn’t have a cd drive tray, but I’m not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my question is has anyone seen these new computers like this, and if so, can you please share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet  

 

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Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Monte Single
 

I don’t know how Kevin from blindads  has such affordable products, but I suspect he gets a lot of his inventory from buisnesses that have upgraded.

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: November 11, 2021 7:33 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I’d love to know how he does that.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 7:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Yes, the dude has upgrades available at very low prices as well.  SSD's are defintely the way to go!  I've purchased several computers from this guy, his name is kevin, and his upgrade prices are much better than buying drives from Amazon or wherever and he doesn't charge hardly anything to swap them out or make other upgrades.  He has the parts like RAM and hardrives, both spinning or SSD's, in stock.  But, it's necessary not to assume that he always will have computers in stock , but to check with him to see what he has or if you can have him order something for you when you're in the market.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:16 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I was thinking of an SSD for her .

Not a spinning drive.

Really you can tell the difference.

John

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 6:49 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi Janet,

 

Get ahold of the dude below.  He has great deals on computers and the 1 below is a sample.  But, contact him to see what he currently has available.  They're not brand new, but close to it.

Another one just in!!
 
A short tower with a 6 core 12 thread processor and it's real fast!Built
with the gamers in mind this short tower will really impress!
 
Note:  The 10th generation I5 now supports all the capabilities of the I7
processor! The 10th generation machines are also faster than the newer
11th generation desktops.
 
If your looking for a new computer and want something with incredible
performance and ready for Windows 11 when it comes out, look no further
than this little gem.
 
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----- Original Message -----

From: Janet

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 1:00 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to buy a new desktop computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as long as I am here, I decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I really liked, but I didn’t like the price in which was 13 hundred dollars!  LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really did like is it had no tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just everything that is in the tower, is in the monitor,  and the monitor isn’t all that big.  It also didn’t have a cd drive tray, but I’m not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my question is has anyone seen these new computers like this, and if so, can you please share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Loy
 

I remember that there is a symbol of a menu list.

----- Original Message -----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

John,

Ok, I can understand what you are saying about they might not even know about the application key, but isn’t there something on the application key so they would know what it is?

 

Janet

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I can picture someone never hearing of that.
Most sited people I know of do not use the keyboard like you and I.
They probably wouldn't even know that the applications key is the same as
clicking the right mouse click button on their mouse..


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 5:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

If no Application Key, press Shift+F10, that is, if you have the standard
function above the numbers on your keyboard.

I can't imagine someone never even hearing of an Application Key.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

Gene,

 and that isn't even including the taxes. 

I would love not to have the tower.  As far as the miniaturization, I'm fine
with that, as all that comes with the computer is the monitor and the
keyboard.  Best Buy said if need be, they work on these computers the same
way as if the computer had a tower.  Although, the keyboard didn't have a
application key, as it had a FN key on each side of
the space bar.   I asked them what happened to the
application key, they said they never heard of an application key on any
keyboard.  I know there is another way to use the application if the
keyboard didn't have

one, but I don't remember what that is.  They didn't have any Windows 11 for
$699 , other than some Windows ten with very little ram,  I just can't see
myself paying that much!
LOL!  I do have my keyboard from Windows 7, but I still can't stand that
Laptop, 

 

 

Janet

 

Sent from Mail
<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows

 

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

How important is no tower?  I haven't seen the kind of computer you are
discussing, but I've seen brief discussions of them off and on.  Based on
what you say, you may be paying a lot for miniaturization. 

 

Also, I hope others discuss repair, if it becomes necessary.
Is it practical to repair such machines? 

 

I would think that, on sale, you could get a machine for six hundred
dollars, perhaps less that would meet your needs.
Do you actually want two computers or do you want a desktop since you no
longer have one?  If you get an external keyboard, you can operate your
laptop as though it were a desktop. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet <mailto:janet.harvard@...

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:00 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>


Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to buy a new desktop
computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as
long as I am here, I decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I
really liked, but I didn't like the price in which was 13 hundred dollars!
LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really did like is it had no
tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just everything that is in the tower, is in
the monitor,  and the monitor isn't all that big.  It also didn't have a cd
drive tray, but I'm not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my question
is has anyone seen these new computers like this, and if so, can you please
share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet 

 

Sent from Mail
<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows

 

 













 


Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Janet
 

Hi Carolyn,

Thank you for this.  I can’t imagine someone not knowing what an application key is on a keyboard either, as I’ve never heard of that before until today.  But then again, that is in the sighted world, in which I haven’t been in that world for awhile now.  So I guess the sale’s person as well as the geek, as well as myself, we learned something from each other today!  Smile! 

 

Janet

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

If no Application Key, press Shift+F10, that is, if you have
the standard function above the numbers on your keyboard.

I can't imagine someone never even hearing of an Application
Key.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

Gene,

 and that isn't even including the taxes. 

I would love not to have the tower.  As far as the
miniaturization, I'm fine with that, as all that comes with
the computer is the monitor and the keyboard.  Best Buy said
if need be, they work on these computers the same way as if
the computer had a tower.  Although, the keyboard didn't
have a application key, as it had a FN key on each side of
the space bar.   I asked them what happened to the
application key, they said they never heard of an
application key on any keyboard.  I know there is another
way to use the application if the keyboard didn't have

one, but I don't remember what that is.  They didn't have
any Windows 11 for $699 , other than some Windows ten with
very little ram,  I just can't see myself paying that much!
LOL!  I do have my keyboard from Windows 7, but I still
can't stand that Laptop, 

 

 

Janet

 

Sent from Mail
<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for
Windows

 

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

How important is no tower?  I haven't seen the kind of
computer you are discussing, but I've seen brief discussions
of them off and on.  Based on what you say, you may be
paying a lot for miniaturization. 

 

Also, I hope others discuss repair, if it becomes necessary.
Is it practical to repair such machines? 

 

I would think that, on sale, you could get a machine for six
hundred dollars, perhaps less that would meet your needs.
Do you actually want two computers or do you want a desktop
since you no longer have one?  If you get an external
keyboard, you can operate your laptop as though it were a
desktop. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet <mailto:janet.harvard@...

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:00 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>


Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to
buy a new desktop computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at
Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as long as I am here, I
decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I really
liked, but I didn't like the price in which was 13 hundred
dollars!  LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really
did like is it had no tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just
everything that is in the tower, is in the monitor,  and the
monitor isn't all that big.  It also didn't have a cd drive
tray, but I'm not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my
question is has anyone seen these new computers like this,
and if so, can you please share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet 

 

Sent from Mail
<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for
Windows

 

 







 


Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

John Holcomb II
 

I can’t find anything on Best Buy with the specs you’re after for the price you are after.

Unless  you are willing to pay over time … John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 9:34 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

John,

That is what I said in the beginning about the price.  I did and still like the all in one, but now that I read the article Gene sent to the list, so after reading that article, I don’t want the all in one, but I still need a PC though.  As far as the Processor, I would want an AMD. 

 

Janet  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

You’re not getting built in speakers unless you go with an All in one.

Are you telling me you’d really like an all in one?

I don’t know if you’re gonna get what you’re after for $699.

 

You want 16G of ram, are you  willing to go with AMD for  your processor or are you intel all the way?

John

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 5:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi John,

I would like ram I16, One tera SSD.  Built in speakers.  A full size keyboard with a application  key. 

 

Janet  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I can find you Windows 11 stuff for $699 on  Best Buy Easily.

How mucn a RAM and SSD space do you want?

Thanks,

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Gene,

 and that isn’t even including the taxes. 

I would love not to have the tower.  As far as the miniaturization, I’m fine with that, as all that comes with the computer is the monitor and the keyboard.  Best Buy said if need be, they work on these computers the same way as if the computer had a tower.  Although, the keyboard didn’t have a application key, as it had a FN key on each side of the space bar.   I asked them what happened to the application key, they said they never heard of an application key on any keyboard.  I know there is another way to use the application if the keyboard didn’t have

one, but I don’t remember what that is.  They didn’t have any Windows 11 for $699 , other than some Windows ten with very little ram,  I just can’t see myself paying that much!  LOL!  I do have my keyboard from Windows 7, but I still can’t stand that Laptop, 

 

 

Janet

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

How important is no tower?  I haven’t seen the kind of computer you are discussing, but I’ve seen brief discussions of them off and on.  Based on what you say, you may be paying a lot for miniaturization. 

 

Also, I hope others discuss repair, if it becomes necessary.  Is it practical to repair such machines? 

 

I would think that, on sale, you could get a machine for six hundred dollars, perhaps less that would meet your needs.  Do you actually want two computers or do you want a desktop since you no longer have one?  If you get an external keyboard, you can operate your laptop as though it were a desktop. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:00 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to buy a new desktop computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as long as I am here, I decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I really liked, but I didn’t like the price in which was 13 hundred dollars!  LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really did like is it had no tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just everything that is in the tower, is in the monitor,  and the monitor isn’t all that big.  It also didn’t have a cd drive tray, but I’m not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my question is has anyone seen these new computers like this, and if so, can you please share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

 

 

 


Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Loy
 

It is also known as the menu key.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

Maybe they know it as a context key
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

Hi Gerald,

I did ask the sale’s person, but because he didn’t have any idea what I was talking about, I asked him if he would please ask one of the Geek Squad people if I could talk to him.  The Geek didn’t have any idea either, as he also told me he never heard of an application key on a keyboard.  Matter of fact, I also asked the sale’s person as well as the Geek, what is the or what kind of sound card is on that computer, and they both responded by saying they don’t know, and no one has ever asked them about the sound card before. 

  

 

Janet

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

 

If the Best Buy store where you plan to buy your new computer has a Geek Squad desk, ask one of their technicians your questions instead of a sales clerk, most of whom don't know computers from kumquats.  And if the new keyboard lacks an applications key, you can still use the keyboard from your old Windows 7 desktop instead, as long as it works.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 11/11/2021 5:49 PM, Janet wrote:

Hi,

  

Thank you for this.  I was totally blown away when the one Geek and the sale’s person told me they never heard of an application key either!  Matter of fact, they even told me I must be misunderstanding about an application key!  LOL! 

Janet

 

Janet

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

If no Application Key, press Shift+F10, that is, if you have
the standard function above the numbers on your keyboard.

I can't imagine someone never even hearing of an Application
Key.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

Gene,

 and that isn't even including the taxes. 

I would love not to have the tower.  As far as the
miniaturization, I'm fine with that, as all that comes with
the computer is the monitor and the keyboard.  Best Buy said
if need be, they work on these computers the same way as if
the computer had a tower.  Although, the keyboard didn't
have a application key, as it had a FN key on each side of
the space bar.   I asked them what happened to the
application key, they said they never heard of an
application key on any keyboard.  I know there is another
way to use the application if the keyboard didn't have

one, but I don't remember what that is.  They didn't have
any Windows 11 for $699 , other than some Windows ten with
very little ram,  I just can't see myself paying that much!
LOL!  I do have my keyboard from Windows 7, but I still
can't stand that Laptop, 

 

 

Janet

 

Sent from Mail
<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for
Windows

 

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

How important is no tower?  I haven't seen the kind of
computer you are discussing, but I've seen brief discussions
of them off and on.  Based on what you say, you may be
paying a lot for miniaturization. 

 

Also, I hope others discuss repair, if it becomes necessary.
Is it practical to repair such machines? 

 

I would think that, on sale, you could get a machine for six
hundred dollars, perhaps less that would meet your needs.
Do you actually want two computers or do you want a desktop
since you no longer have one?  If you get an external
keyboard, you can operate your laptop as though it were a
desktop. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet <mailto:janet.harvard@...

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:00 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>


Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to
buy a new desktop computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at
Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as long as I am here, I
decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I really
liked, but I didn't like the price in which was 13 hundred
dollars!  LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really
did like is it had no tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just
everything that is in the tower, is in the monitor,  and the
monitor isn't all that big.  It also didn't have a cd drive
tray, but I'm not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my
question is has anyone seen these new computers like this,
and if so, can you please share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet 

 

Sent from Mail
<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for
Windows

 

 






 

 


Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Janet
 

John,

That is what I said in the beginning about the price.  I did and still like the all in one, but now that I read the article Gene sent to the list, so after reading that article, I don’t want the all in one, but I still need a PC though.  As far as the Processor, I would want an AMD. 

 

Janet  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:36 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

You’re not getting built in speakers unless you go with an All in one.

Are you telling me you’d really like an all in one?

I don’t know if you’re gonna get what you’re after for $699.

 

You want 16G of ram, are you  willing to go with AMD for  your processor or are you intel all the way?

John

 

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 5:18 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi John,

I would like ram I16, One tera SSD.  Built in speakers.  A full size keyboard with a application  key. 

 

Janet  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:08 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I can find you Windows 11 stuff for $699 on  Best Buy Easily.

How mucn a RAM and SSD space do you want?

Thanks,

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Gene,

 and that isn’t even including the taxes. 

I would love not to have the tower.  As far as the miniaturization, I’m fine with that, as all that comes with the computer is the monitor and the keyboard.  Best Buy said if need be, they work on these computers the same way as if the computer had a tower.  Although, the keyboard didn’t have a application key, as it had a FN key on each side of the space bar.   I asked them what happened to the application key, they said they never heard of an application key on any keyboard.  I know there is another way to use the application if the keyboard didn’t have

one, but I don’t remember what that is.  They didn’t have any Windows 11 for $699 , other than some Windows ten with very little ram,  I just can’t see myself paying that much!  LOL!  I do have my keyboard from Windows 7, but I still can’t stand that Laptop, 

 

 

Janet

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

How important is no tower?  I haven’t seen the kind of computer you are discussing, but I’ve seen brief discussions of them off and on.  Based on what you say, you may be paying a lot for miniaturization. 

 

Also, I hope others discuss repair, if it becomes necessary.  Is it practical to repair such machines? 

 

I would think that, on sale, you could get a machine for six hundred dollars, perhaps less that would meet your needs.  Do you actually want two computers or do you want a desktop since you no longer have one?  If you get an external keyboard, you can operate your laptop as though it were a desktop. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:00 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to buy a new desktop computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as long as I am here, I decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I really liked, but I didn’t like the price in which was 13 hundred dollars!  LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really did like is it had no tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just everything that is in the tower, is in the monitor,  and the monitor isn’t all that big.  It also didn’t have a cd drive tray, but I’m not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my question is has anyone seen these new computers like this, and if so, can you please share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

 

 

 


Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

John Holcomb II
 

Possibly…

What does the simble look like on that key?

They might know it by that.

John

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 9:28 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

John,

Ok, I can understand what you are saying about they might not even know about the application key, but isn’t there something on the application key so they would know what it is?

 

Janet

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: John Holcomb II
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:38 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

I can picture someone never hearing of that.
Most sited people I know of do not use the keyboard like you and I.
They probably wouldn't even know that the applications key is the same as
clicking the right mouse click button on their mouse..


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 5:26 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

If no Application Key, press Shift+F10, that is, if you have the standard
function above the numbers on your keyboard.

I can't imagine someone never even hearing of an Application Key.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

Gene,

 and that isn't even including the taxes. 

I would love not to have the tower.  As far as the miniaturization, I'm fine
with that, as all that comes with the computer is the monitor and the
keyboard.  Best Buy said if need be, they work on these computers the same
way as if the computer had a tower.  Although, the keyboard didn't have a
application key, as it had a FN key on each side of
the space bar.   I asked them what happened to the
application key, they said they never heard of an application key on any
keyboard.  I know there is another way to use the application if the
keyboard didn't have

one, but I don't remember what that is.  They didn't have any Windows 11 for
$699 , other than some Windows ten with very little ram,  I just can't see
myself paying that much!
LOL!  I do have my keyboard from Windows 7, but I still can't stand that
Laptop, 

 

 

Janet

 

Sent from Mail
<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows

 

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

How important is no tower?  I haven't seen the kind of computer you are
discussing, but I've seen brief discussions of them off and on.  Based on
what you say, you may be paying a lot for miniaturization. 

 

Also, I hope others discuss repair, if it becomes necessary.
Is it practical to repair such machines? 

 

I would think that, on sale, you could get a machine for six hundred
dollars, perhaps less that would meet your needs.
Do you actually want two computers or do you want a desktop since you no
longer have one?  If you get an external keyboard, you can operate your
laptop as though it were a desktop. 

 

Gene

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From: Janet <mailto:janet.harvard@...

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:00 PM

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Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to buy a new desktop
computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as
long as I am here, I decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I
really liked, but I didn't like the price in which was 13 hundred dollars!
LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really did like is it had no
tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just everything that is in the tower, is in
the monitor,  and the monitor isn't all that big.  It also didn't have a cd
drive tray, but I'm not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my question
is has anyone seen these new computers like this, and if so, can you please
share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet 

 

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Re: Windows 11 Question Please.

Monte Single
 

Hi Janet,  a very large per centage of  all the sound cards on laptops and desktops these days is on-board or built-in Realtech audio.

Yes, realtech is the  brand name.

If for some reason, you are nolt happy with the sound  on your new device, you can buy a usb sound card for anywhere from 10 to a couple hundred dollars.  Some of them are as small as a thumb drive.  And they have poorts  to plug in speakers and microphones.

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: November 11, 2021 7:53 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

Hi Gerald,

I did ask the sale’s person, but because he didn’t have any idea what I was talking about, I asked him if he would please ask one of the Geek Squad people if I could talk to him.  The Geek didn’t have any idea either, as he also told me he never heard of an application key on a keyboard.  Matter of fact, I also asked the sale’s person as well as the Geek, what is the or what kind of sound card is on that computer, and they both responded by saying they don’t know, and no one has ever asked them about the sound card before. 

  

 

Janet

 

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From: Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:58 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

 

If the Best Buy store where you plan to buy your new computer has a Geek Squad desk, ask one of their technicians your questions instead of a sales clerk, most of whom don't know computers from kumquats.  And if the new keyboard lacks an applications key, you can still use the keyboard from your old Windows 7 desktop instead, as long as it works.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 11/11/2021 5:49 PM, Janet wrote:

Hi,

  

Thank you for this.  I was totally blown away when the one Geek and the sale’s person told me they never heard of an application key either!  Matter of fact, they even told me I must be misunderstanding about an application key!  LOL! 

Janet

 

Janet

 

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From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:25 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

If no Application Key, press Shift+F10, that is, if you have
the standard function above the numbers on your keyboard.

I can't imagine someone never even hearing of an Application
Key.

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[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Janet
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 4:46 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

Gene,

 and that isn't even including the taxes. 

I would love not to have the tower.  As far as the
miniaturization, I'm fine with that, as all that comes with
the computer is the monitor and the keyboard.  Best Buy said
if need be, they work on these computers the same way as if
the computer had a tower.  Although, the keyboard didn't
have a application key, as it had a FN key on each side of
the space bar.   I asked them what happened to the
application key, they said they never heard of an
application key on any keyboard.  I know there is another
way to use the application if the keyboard didn't have

one, but I don't remember what that is.  They didn't have
any Windows 11 for $699 , other than some Windows ten with
very little ram,  I just can't see myself paying that much!
LOL!  I do have my keyboard from Windows 7, but I still
can't stand that Laptop, 

 

 

Janet

 

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From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:12 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

How important is no tower?  I haven't seen the kind of
computer you are discussing, but I've seen brief discussions
of them off and on.  Based on what you say, you may be
paying a lot for miniaturization. 

 

Also, I hope others discuss repair, if it becomes necessary.
Is it practical to repair such machines? 

 

I would think that, on sale, you could get a machine for six
hundred dollars, perhaps less that would meet your needs.
Do you actually want two computers or do you want a desktop
since you no longer have one?  If you get an external
keyboard, you can operate your laptop as though it were a
desktop. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet <mailto:janet.harvard@...

Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:00 PM

To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>


Subject: [TechTalk] Windows 11 Question Please.

 

HI Everyone,

Well, since my Windows 7 stopped working. I am wanting to
buy a new desktop computer, as I hate laptops.  I was at
Best Buy yesterday, so I thought as long as I am here, I
decided to look at the new Windows 11.  I saw one I really
liked, but I didn't like the price in which was 13 hundred
dollars!  LOL!  The main thing about this computer I really
did like is it had no tower, the hard drive, ram, fan, just
everything that is in the tower, is in the monitor,  and the
monitor isn't all that big.  It also didn't have a cd drive
tray, but I'm not for sure I would need that anyway.  So, my
question is has anyone seen these new computers like this,
and if so, can you please share your thoughts?

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Janet 

 

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<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for
Windows

 

 





 

 

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