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Re: styles of desktop computers

Monte Single
 

Hi Gene,

 

Troy wrote in his message that his monitor sat on a box with the harddrive inside.

Sounds like a small form factor desktop with the monitor on top.

Actually,  a lot of computers  were shaped like a square or rectangular box with the monitor on top.

They were about the size of a short tower, but on the flat. And the monitor was on top.

I saw many school computer labs  of 28 to 32  machines with this configuration.

 

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: November 28, 2021 7:27 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] styles of desktop computers

 

Perhaps Troy had an all-in-one computer, with the monitor and speakers and the actual computer all in the same case.  But all-in-one units cost more for the same performance, according to what I read.  What I read was a number of years old and I don’t know if that is as true anymore but if you want a small computer, I think that is the thing to concentrate on, not whether different components are combined.

 

Are the kinds of small computers more expensive for the same performance or doesn’t that matter?

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2021 7:16 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] styles of desktop computers

 

Hi. There are lots of different styles of desk top pcs. They have gotten much smaller. I have a lanovo think center that's no larger than a video tape. It has 16 gig of ram and a 1 TB solid state hard drive.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: November 28, 2021 12:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] styles of desktop computers

Hi all,


It's been several years since I've used a desktop pc, my last several machines have been laptops because of their portability as I took them on trips.


I may be in the market for a new pc in the fairly near future though, and when I used a desktop in the past I remember having at least one where the hard drive was in like a box that my monitor sat on top of instead of having a tower. What was that called, and are pc's still made like that?


Thanks.


Troy












Re: styles of desktop computers

Monte Single
 

You mean the size of one of those vhs tapes?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: November 28, 2021 7:17 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] styles of desktop computers

Hi. There are lots of different styles of desk top pcs. They have gotten much smaller. I have a lanovo think center that's no larger than a video tape. It has 16 gig of ram and a 1 TB solid state hard drive.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: November 28, 2021 12:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] styles of desktop computers

Hi all,


It's been several years since I've used a desktop pc, my last several machines have been laptops because of their portability as I took them on trips.


I may be in the market for a new pc in the fairly near future though, and when I used a desktop in the past I remember having at least one where the hard drive was in like a box that my monitor sat on top of instead of having a tower. What was that called, and are pc's still made like that?


Thanks.


Troy


Re: styles of desktop computers

Gene
 

Perhaps Troy had an all-in-one computer, with the monitor and speakers and the actual computer all in the same case.  But all-in-one units cost more for the same performance, according to what I read.  What I read was a number of years old and I don’t know if that is as true anymore but if you want a small computer, I think that is the thing to concentrate on, not whether different components are combined.
 
Are the kinds of small computers more expensive for the same performance or doesn’t that matter?
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2021 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] styles of desktop computers
 
Hi. There are lots of different styles of desk top pcs. They have gotten much smaller. I have a lanovo think center that's no larger than a video tape. It has 16 gig of ram and a 1 TB solid state hard drive.

Chris Judge


-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: November 28, 2021 12:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] styles of desktop computers

Hi all,


It's been several years since I've used a desktop pc, my last several machines have been laptops because of their portability as I took them on trips.


I may be in the market for a new pc in the fairly near future though, and when I used a desktop in the past I remember having at least one where the hard drive was in like a box that my monitor sat on top of instead of having a tower. What was that called, and are pc's still made like that?


Thanks.


Troy













Re: styles of desktop computers

chris judge
 

Hi. There are lots of different styles of desk top pcs. They have gotten much smaller. I have a lanovo think center that's no larger than a video tape. It has 16 gig of ram and a 1 TB solid state hard drive.

Chris Judge

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: November 28, 2021 12:13 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] styles of desktop computers

Hi all,


It's been several years since I've used a desktop pc, my last several machines have been laptops because of their portability as I took them on trips.


I may be in the market for a new pc in the fairly near future though, and when I used a desktop in the past I remember having at least one where the hard drive was in like a box that my monitor sat on top of instead of having a tower. What was that called, and are pc's still made like that?


Thanks.


Troy


Re: new 4k tv and sound bars question

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 


help line?

Billy Inglis
 

hi guys, I'm asking if there is a telephone number for Amazong UK disability helpline.
If I have asked this on the list before, please forgive me. I have recently changed over to different mail client, and still getting to know the client, Billy


help line.

Billy Inglis
 

hi guys, I'm asking if there is a telephone number for Amazong UK disability helpline.
If I have asked this on the list before, please forgive me. I have recently changed over to different mail client, and still getting to know the client, Billy


Re: styles of desktop computers

Monte Single
 

Hi troy,

What you are referring to may be called an "s s f" desktop, where s s f stands for "small form factor".
These days, youcan get small towers that are about the same size as a s s f desktop.
Also, you can put a tower on its side, or you can put a small form factor desktop on its side aoso.
It doesn't matter as long as there is a little space beneath the units for air circulation.
These days, computers come with s s d drives which run cooler and quieter than rotating hard drives.
I have a s s f hp whichis about;
12 x 13 x 4 inches and a;
Hp tower that is;
11 x 12 x 6. inches
Personally, I would not by an "all-in-one" where the monitor and the computer are one piece.
These units are limited when it comes to adding or changing components.
If you are looking for something that is not brand new, Kevin on the blindads has some great deals which he posts about once a week.
His units are usually very good deals interms of what you get for what you pay.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: November 27, 2021 10:13 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] styles of desktop computers

Hi all,


It's been several years since I've used a desktop pc, my last several machines have been laptops because of their portability as I took them on trips.


I may be in the market for a new pc in the fairly near future though, and when I used a desktop in the past I remember having at least one where the hard drive was in like a box that my monitor sat on top of instead of having a tower. What was that called, and are pc's still made like that?


Thanks.


Troy


Re: new 4k tv and sound bars question

Rick Alfaro
 

John, you are absolutely correct, the ARC channel is very important. Not sure if he could find one with the ARC unless he’s willing to spend a little more on it though.

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Holcomb II
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 5:42 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] new 4k tv and sound bars question

 

Rick,

you forgot to mention the Audio Return Channel (ARC) on the back of the TV which would probably be the best way to hook up a sound bar.

 

How much money are you willing to spend for a sound bar, Josh?

Yes it is important to have your TV measured. You could probably fit the sound bar right under the TV.

John

 


Re: jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure what it's called! lol

Gene
 

I don't recall the situation.  Did you just switch to a new computer or reinstall or install a new operating system? Are you using a newly installed browser?


You may have to open the context menu and tell the browser you want to be shown images.  I haven't done this enough to know what different browsers do.  I worked with one browser where I had to decide something about describing images one time or in general. But I'll let others discuss the question in detail.


Gene

On 11/27/2021 5:09 PM, Kimsan via groups.io wrote:
So yeah, I can read it using my phone but with chrome and windows 10, nothing appears.

Kimsan Song
Kimsansong@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bharat
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 11:59 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure what it's called! lol

If this functionality goes away, it would be removed from all devices & allOSs. I believe, it is a Facebook function & not an OS one.


On 11/27/21, Kimsan via groups.io <kimsansong@...> wrote:
Well that just sucks haha.

I’ll just use it on my iPhone, then.



Kimsan Song

Kimsansong@...



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Thomas N. Chan
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 2:33 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure
what it's called! lol



There's a chance it might not be jaws issue.

if the tag is there, it will read by default

facebook is taking away this function

https://about.fb.com/news/2021/11/update-on-use-of-face-recognition/



Regards,
Thomas N. Chan





On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 15:08, Kimsan via groups.io <http://groups.io>
<kimsansong@... <mailto:icloud.com@groups.io> > wrote:

Hi,

For example, on fb, if someone posts a meem, or a photo, in the past
jaws would say photo, followed by blab la bla. Now it doesn’t say it
on fb, since it’s the site I use most times.

Does anyone know the term I am talking about? I’m using jfw 22.

Thank you,



Kimsan Song

Kimsansong@... <mailto:Kimsansong@...>


















styles of desktop computers

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,


It's been several years since I've used a desktop pc, my last several machines have been laptops because of their portability as I took them on trips.


I may be in the market for a new pc in the fairly near future though, and when I used a desktop in the past I remember having at least one where the hard drive was in like a box that my monitor sat on top of instead of having a tower. What was that called, and are pc's still made like that?


Thanks.


Troy


Re: jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure what it's called! lol

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I’ve never had to use picture smart on fb, jaws just read it.

 

Kimsan Song

Kimsansong@...

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 5:09 AM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure what it's called! lol

 

If you are speaking of Picture Smart,when focused on an image, press the insert key, then space bar, then P, then Shift plus C then picture smart will read any text in the image. I use this for reading images of my mail in informed daily delivery, so I hope it is not going away. 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 10:13 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure what it's called! lol

 

That isn’t correct. 

This article appeared not long after the feature was introduced so comments about it not being in an advanced state yet may be no longer accurate.  But you can see from the description that images don’t have to be in a certain folder and that Internet images can be analyzed.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 8:56 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure what it's called! lol

 

You need to put a picture image file directly into the Picture Smart folder to get a description of a image file.

The file path is:

C:\ Users \ YourName \ Pictures \ PictureSmart

 

If it can be done differently I'm not aware of it.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 6:10 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure what it's called! lol

 

I don’t use JAWS but are you talking about Picture Smart?  It has a specific way to try to recognize messages from web pages.  But this appears to be different from the ability to do so provided by some sites.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 8:05 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure what it's called! lol

 

Ya know, one setting you can look to see if it's turned on or not is Smart help messages in your verboscity settings of the Settings Center.

 

 

Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2021 11:08 PM

Subject: [TechTalk] jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure what it's called! lol

 

Hi,

For example, on fb, if someone posts a meem, or a photo, in the past jaws would say photo, followed by blab la bla. Now it doesn’t say it on fb, since it’s the site I use most times.

Does anyone know the term I am talking about? I’m using jfw 22.

Thank you,

 

Kimsan Song

Kimsansong@...

 


Re: jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure what it's called! lol

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

So yeah, I can read it using my phone but with chrome and windows 10, nothing appears.

Kimsan Song
Kimsansong@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bharat
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 11:59 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure what it's called! lol

If this functionality goes away, it would be removed from all devices & allOSs. I believe, it is a Facebook function & not an OS one.


On 11/27/21, Kimsan via groups.io <kimsansong@...> wrote:
Well that just sucks haha.

I’ll just use it on my iPhone, then.



Kimsan Song

Kimsansong@...



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Thomas N. Chan
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 2:33 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure
what it's called! lol



There's a chance it might not be jaws issue.

if the tag is there, it will read by default

facebook is taking away this function

https://about.fb.com/news/2021/11/update-on-use-of-face-recognition/



Regards,
Thomas N. Chan





On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 15:08, Kimsan via groups.io <http://groups.io>
<kimsansong@... <mailto:icloud.com@groups.io> > wrote:

Hi,

For example, on fb, if someone posts a meem, or a photo, in the past
jaws would say photo, followed by blab la bla. Now it doesn’t say it
on fb, since it’s the site I use most times.

Does anyone know the term I am talking about? I’m using jfw 22.

Thank you,



Kimsan Song

Kimsansong@... <mailto:Kimsansong@...>











Re: detecting falls

E.M. Kirtley
 

She can get her Life-Alert or something like that which will send out a signal for assistance.  Make sure there are no throw rugs around the house.  Hope this helps. 

 

Ms. Kirtley

 

 

 

From: Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 2:30 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] detecting falls

 

Hi all,

I'm asking on behalf of a sighted friend as I told her I'd do some searching.

Her mom is 88 years old and she's fallen 4 times in the last 3 weeks, and my

friend is worried that one of these times she's going to end up in the hospital.

They live half a mile from each other, does anyone know of anything that could

tell my friend when she's fallen? Other then this her mom is excellent so my

friend doesn't want her to have to go into assisted living or something like

that. Really hope someone has ideas; I know I've seen commercials for something

that detects falls but I can't think of the name now. I want to help her out,

but I thought I'd ask on hear before doing my own searching. Look forward to any

suggestions anyone can provide me!!! Thanks Madison

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: new 4k tv and sound bars question

John Holcomb II
 

Rick,

you forgot to mention the Audio Return Channel (ARC) on the back of the TV which would probably be the best way to hook up a sound bar.

 

How much money are you willing to spend for a sound bar, Josh?

Yes it is important to have your TV measured. You could probably fit the sound bar right under the TV.

John


Re: detecting falls

Carolyn Arnold
 

My Humana Insurance offers a Life Line, and you can also buy
them somewhere, where you are monitored, can push button and
get immediate help.

I would think four recent falls recently demands
intervention. I am 84, and haven't had a fall in years. I am
asked repeatedly if I have had any falls by medical people
or insurance people. My husband is 83 and has not fallen.
One fall, and that can be a bad sign.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 5:31 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] detecting falls

Hi all,
I'm asking on behalf of a sighted friend as I told her I'd
do some searching.
Her mom is 88 years old and she's fallen 4 times in the last
3 weeks, and my friend is worried that one of these times
she's going to end up in the hospital.
They live half a mile from each other, does anyone know of
anything that could tell my friend when she's fallen? Other
then this her mom is excellent so my friend doesn't want her
to have to go into assisted living or something like that.
Really hope someone has ideas; I know I've seen commercials
for something that detects falls but I can't think of the
name now. I want to help her out, but I thought I'd ask on
hear before doing my own searching. Look forward to any
suggestions anyone can provide me!!! Thanks Madison


Re: new 4k tv and sound bars question

Rick Alfaro
 

Josh, soundbar s come in many different configuration and they can vary in size in  terms of width and height. I suggest you measure how many inches you have available under your TV and then make sure whatever soundbar you get will fit in your space. I would also at least go for a 2.1 soundbar if you want at least some bass in your TV sound. The sub soofe3r for a 2.1 system in most cases is separate and in many cases connects wirelessly to the main bar. If you standards and too Hight in terms of sound, you should be able to find a 2.1 system for under $100.

 

Regarding connectivity, most soundbars can connect via optical, or HDMI and some still have analog RCA connectors.

 

 

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 7:38 AM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] new 4k tv and sound bars question

 

Hi,

I got a new 4k tv as a black Friday or early christmas present. It is a vizio tv with its own version of talkBack. I got sighted help setting it up but was disappointed to learn the sound from the tv speakers is a bit tinny and has almost no bass. The speakers are on the bottom of the tv and face down towards the table or stand. And this tv has no 3.5mm speaker or headphone jack on back of it. So I'll need a sound bar. I found a sound bar on amazon, its aivzio, for $70 or so. This tv sits up maybe 5 or 6 inches above the table there are legs on either end that hold it a good few inches above the table itseelf. So since I never had a sound bar can you describe them to me? Do they have separate speakers plus a bar or is it just the bar itself? And what connection do you plug them into the back of the tv to make them work? The one I'm looking at on amazon also has bluetooth to connect to phones and stuff to use as a bluetooth speaker. I can put up with the slightly tinny sound from the built in speakers for a few days but will be getting a sound bar asap since the dell speakers with their 3.5mm connector won't work with this tv and I already gave the dell speakers away to the person who helped me set the tv up. Talkback works ok on the tv but I'll mostly be using apple tv to stream stuff and sometimes watch tv with my xfinity broadcast channels package I have. I needed sighted help turning on talkback, there was no shortcut to turn it on at least not on vizio tvs.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


detecting falls

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,
I'm asking on behalf of a sighted friend as I told her I'd do some searching.
Her mom is 88 years old and she's fallen 4 times in the last 3 weeks, and my
friend is worried that one of these times she's going to end up in the hospital.
They live half a mile from each other, does anyone know of anything that could
tell my friend when she's fallen? Other then this her mom is excellent so my
friend doesn't want her to have to go into assisted living or something like
that. Really hope someone has ideas; I know I've seen commercials for something
that detects falls but I can't think of the name now. I want to help her out,
but I thought I'd ask on hear before doing my own searching. Look forward to any
suggestions anyone can provide me!!! Thanks Madison


needing help with a webpage

Vicki W
 

Hi,
 
Does anyone have a membership with the Thrive Market? If so, how do you make sure that the auto delivery is turned off for everything and only needs to be activated for each item separately?
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 


Re: jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure what it's called! lol

Loy
 


If you are speaking of Picture Smart,when focused on an image, press the insert key, then space bar, then P, then Shift plus C then picture smart will read any text in the image. I use this for reading images of my mail in informed daily delivery, so I hope it is not going away. 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure what it's called! lol

That isn’t correct. 
This article appeared not long after the feature was introduced so comments about it not being in an advanced state yet may be no longer accurate.  But you can see from the description that images don’t have to be in a certain folder and that Internet images can be analyzed.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure what it's called! lol
 
You need to put a picture image file directly into the Picture Smart folder to get a description of a image file.
The file path is:
C:\ Users \ YourName \ Pictures \ PictureSmart
 
If it can be done differently I'm not aware of it.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure what it's called! lol
 
I don’t use JAWS but are you talking about Picture Smart?  It has a specific way to try to recognize messages from web pages.  But this appears to be different from the ability to do so provided by some sites.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure what it's called! lol
 
Ya know, one setting you can look to see if it's turned on or not is Smart help messages in your verboscity settings of the Settings Center.
 
 
Stay safe & take care.  Mike.
Just once, I want a username and password prompt to say:  "Close Enough!"
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2021 11:08 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] jaws configuration to change but I'm unsure what it's called! lol
 

Hi,

For example, on fb, if someone posts a meem, or a photo, in the past jaws would say photo, followed by blab la bla. Now it doesn’t say it on fb, since it’s the site I use most times.

Does anyone know the term I am talking about? I’m using jfw 22.

Thank you,

 

Kimsan Song

Kimsansong@...

 

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