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Re: Accessible Streaming Service for the Blind #a11y

Gene
 

Please stop asking for information online.  The original poster should have given contact information in the message because most blind people don't know how to reply to the sender.  He should write back, giving the e-mail address he wants people to use and to protect himself from his address being seen by spam bots that might collect it to send spam to, it should be changed such as the word at being written out rather than the at sign used.  If everyone who wants to participate  in the survey responds lists, there might be over one-hundred or over one-hundred-fifty I'm interested responses. 

I have already explained how to get the address using Thunderbird.   I hope someone explains how to get it using Outlook.  Since you never know when you might want to write someone privately, I hope people keep the descriptions for reference if they think they won't remember how this is done. 


Gene, owner

On 6/27/2022 9:00 PM, Mich Verrier wrote:

Hi I am also interested in your servay as well. From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Melissa
Sent: June 27, 2022 9:57 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible Streaming Service for the Blind #a11y

I'm definitely interested. I look forward to hearing back from you.

On 6/27/22, DAVID GLOBE <dglobe@...> wrote:
Hello Dis

I'm interested in your survey.  Admittedly I've not had a lot of success
with filling these out, using jfw, but I'll give it a go.

David



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dis Rojanasopondist via groups.io
Sent: June 27, 2022 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible Streaming Service for the Blind #a11y



Hi everyone! My name is Dis and I represent Diamond.la, a technology company
that was founded by Global Accessibility Awareness Day co-founder Joe Devon.


I'm super excited to be a part of the blind community and my mission in life
is to make a difference for people with low vision or blind like myself, I
have a request for anyone who may be interested in this opportunity to make
that difference by participating in our survey. We're looking for people who
identify as blind or have low vision to complete a 35 to 45 minutes online
survey about streaming services. We are giving out a $30 digital gift card
to each respondent.

If you're interested please message me below and let's get connected in
making the internet a better place for our community.
Feel free to add me on LinkedIn as well https://www.linkedin.com/in/dis/
looking forward to chatting and making new friends.






















Re: Accessible Streaming Service for the Blind #a11y

Mich Verrier
 

Hi I am also interested in your servay as well. From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Melissa
Sent: June 27, 2022 9:57 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Accessible Streaming Service for the Blind #a11y

I'm definitely interested. I look forward to hearing back from you.

On 6/27/22, DAVID GLOBE <dglobe@...> wrote:
Hello Dis

I'm interested in your survey. Admittedly I've not had a lot of success
with filling these out, using jfw, but I'll give it a go.

David



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dis Rojanasopondist via groups.io
Sent: June 27, 2022 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible Streaming Service for the Blind #a11y



Hi everyone! My name is Dis and I represent Diamond.la, a technology company
that was founded by Global Accessibility Awareness Day co-founder Joe Devon.


I'm super excited to be a part of the blind community and my mission in life
is to make a difference for people with low vision or blind like myself, I
have a request for anyone who may be interested in this opportunity to make
that difference by participating in our survey. We're looking for people who
identify as blind or have low vision to complete a 35 to 45 minutes online
survey about streaming services. We are giving out a $30 digital gift card
to each respondent.

If you're interested please message me below and let's get connected in
making the internet a better place for our community.
Feel free to add me on LinkedIn as well https://www.linkedin.com/in/dis/
looking forward to chatting and making new friends.










Re: Accessible Streaming Service for the Blind #a11y

Melissa
 

I'm definitely interested. I look forward to hearing back from you.

On 6/27/22, DAVID GLOBE <dglobe@...> wrote:
Hello Dis

I'm interested in your survey. Admittedly I've not had a lot of success
with filling these out, using jfw, but I'll give it a go.

David



From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Dis Rojanasopondist via groups.io
Sent: June 27, 2022 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible Streaming Service for the Blind #a11y



Hi everyone! My name is Dis and I represent Diamond.la, a technology company
that was founded by Global Accessibility Awareness Day co-founder Joe Devon.


I'm super excited to be a part of the blind community and my mission in life
is to make a difference for people with low vision or blind like myself, I
have a request for anyone who may be interested in this opportunity to make
that difference by participating in our survey. We're looking for people who
identify as blind or have low vision to complete a 35 to 45 minutes online
survey about streaming services. We are giving out a $30 digital gift card
to each respondent.

If you're interested please message me below and let's get connected in
making the internet a better place for our community.
Feel free to add me on LinkedIn as well https://www.linkedin.com/in/dis/
looking forward to chatting and making new friends.










Survey

Charles Adkins
 

I would be interested in taking the survey. I could either use NVDA or my Iphone. Thanks


Re: Accessible Streaming Service for the Blind #a11y

DAVID GLOBE
 

Hello Dis

I'm interested in your survey.  Admittedly I've not had a lot of success with filling these out, using jfw, but I'll give it a go.

David

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dis Rojanasopondist via groups.io
Sent: June 27, 2022 6:17 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] Accessible Streaming Service for the Blind #a11y

 

Hi everyone! My name is Dis and I represent Diamond.la, a technology company that was founded by Global Accessibility Awareness Day co-founder Joe Devon. 

I'm super excited to be a part of the blind community and my mission in life is to make a difference for people with low vision or blind like myself, I have a request for anyone who may be interested in this opportunity to make that difference by participating in our survey. We're looking for people who identify as blind or have low vision to complete a 35 to 45 minutes online survey about streaming services. We are giving out a $30 digital gift card to each respondent. 

If you're interested please message me below and let's get connected in making the internet a better place for our community. 
Feel free to add me on LinkedIn as well https://www.linkedin.com/in/dis/ looking forward to chatting and making new friends.
 


Accessible Streaming Service for the Blind #a11y

 

Hi everyone! My name is Dis and I represent Diamond.la, a technology company that was founded by Global Accessibility Awareness Day co-founder Joe Devon. 

I'm super excited to be a part of the blind community and my mission in life is to make a difference for people with low vision or blind like myself, I have a request for anyone who may be interested in this opportunity to make that difference by participating in our survey. We're looking for people who identify as blind or have low vision to complete a 35 to 45 minutes online survey about streaming services. We are giving out a $30 digital gift card to each respondent. 

If you're interested please message me below and let's get connected in making the internet a better place for our community. 
Feel free to add me on LinkedIn as well https://www.linkedin.com/in/dis/ looking forward to chatting and making new friends.
 


Re: Outbox.

Carolyn Arnold
 

Probably.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 2:11 PM
To: main@techtalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.

Also, I am not convinced that your problems with Quick Access are any more than you needing to update the program. Recently, there was a thread where the need to update the program was the cause of one or two people not being able to use the utility.

Gene


On 6/27/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I'm not sure I recall what all your problems are. You might be able
to end them all by trying Thunderbird. I don't know if the Microsoft
disability person is reliable. I've heard reports indicating that
different techs who work for the service vary widely in their
competence. However, whatever your problems are, my impression is
that, aside from remoting into your machine, they all concern e-mail.

If you want to continue to use Outlook, you may want to continue to
work on the problems. If you want to try Thunderbird, that may
resolve all the problems and since you can keep Outlook on your
machine and try Thunderbird, what do you have to lose except perhaps
some time? You may say you may have more frustration but your
frustration may be less and much shorter duration if you find that Thunderbird solves your problems.

If desired, I can help you set up your accounts in Thunderbird. Using
Thunderbird for reading and replying to e-mail should be similar to
using Outlook. The five Windows e-mail programs I've used are similar
or very similar in terms of common uses of the sort.

Gene

On 6/27/2022 12:36 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
Microsoft Disability said my problems were too complicated for them
to fix, but that if when my computer guy comes, if he needs it,
they'll be happy to work with him. We could not even get Quick Access
in, so that he could tandem my computer. No wonder I haven't gotten
anywhere with it, and with all the help here too.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 6:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.

You might as well try my solution of opening a message in the outbox,
shift tabbing to the from line, and up and down arrowing to see if
you can change the account it is sent from. While this doesn't work
in Thunderbird, it does in Windows Live Mail, I just checked.

Since Windows Live Mail is a Microsoft [product and Thunderbird
isn't, this may well work in Outlook, even though it doesn't in Thunderbird.

Gene


On 6/21/2022 4:52 PM, Gene wrote:


I just tried this in Thunderbird. My second solution, the one I
discuss in the below quoted message, may not work. When a message
is in the inbox, ready to be sent, it can't be worked on further. I
can open it and read it but I can't make any changes.

However, there is a way that may work in your case that is easier
than the copy and paste solution. In Thunderbird, I can forward
messages that are in the outbox. You can try that.

Gene


On 6/21/2022 4:39 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:


there may be another solution I just thought of but I'm not sure
how you do this in Outlook. Others will, I hope discuss it.

Open an unsent message and change the account it is sent from. In
e-mail programs I've used, this is done by shift tabbing until you
get to the from line. From there, you up or down arrow, whichever
works, to change the account the message is to be sent from.

I am assuming that the messages in the outbox can be opened and
worked with as though they were drafts and the way to change things
in messages are the same as though you were working with an opened
message you had begun or replied to in the usual way.

Gene


On 6/21/2022 4:35 PM, Gene wrote:


You can't send them anyway as they are. You can do the following:
/copy the message body of a message in the outbox to the clipboard.
Then, using your other account, create a message to whomever it is
intended, paste the message body in, and send it from the other account.

If there are problems doing that, let us know and people will
likely discuss how to get around them.

Gene


On 6/21/2022 4:20 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:


I have your instructions saved, but right now, no one who knows
what to do.

If I deleted the emails, I'd lose them.

I have tried moving them from Outboox to another mailbox, then
going in and sending again; that does not usually work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.

To stop the problem, find the outbox and delete all messages in it.
Then send mail only from your other address. Don't even bother
entering your password. Just close the dialog with escape and use
your other e-mail provider until you resolve the problem.

Do you know someone who can follow instructions such as I wrote?
Even if the person doesn't understand why these things are done, if
someone knows how to work with web sites in terms of working with
forms, they can do what is needed.

Or, you can use the Windows Mail app for now. You don't need an
application specific password for it.

Gene
GeneOn 6/21/2022 2:23 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:


It does have the Send later, when I exit. The work around I am
finding is Windows M to get out of Outlook without closing it, then
Alt+Tab back in.

All of this is connected with the Gmail that keeps wanting my
password, which I give, but it does not take, so it now is imposing
on myh Windstream boxes.

I did call a computer man last week, but they were moving into
their new store, plus they mainly do commercial. I am trying to
cripple until I move around the first of August, when I will have to get some help.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 7:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.

If messages are stuck in the outbox in e-mail programs I've
used, the program asks if you want to send them at some point, or if
you issue a general send/receive command, it will send them if it can.

Thunderbird asks if you want to send unsent messages when you
open the program. Outlook likely does something like that but
whether it does or not, it very likely would send them when you issue
a send/receive command.

Does Outlook have a send later command that you might
accidentally be executing when you mean to execute a send command?
Thunderbird has a send later command, control shift enter. the send
immediately command is control enter. At some point, those using the
keyboard are likely to accidentally issue control shift enter instead of enter.

Not using Outlook, I'm asking questions and raising
possibilities that may be useful.

Gene


On Jun 20, 2022, at 6:33 PM, Carolyn Arnold
<4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...>
<mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...>
<mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...>
<mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...>
wrote:





I have messages stuck in my Outbox. What do I do to get them
unstuck. I hope this one will go.






























Re: intermittant problems with dell computer

Howard Traxler
 

Thinking about it further, if I knew the proper voltages on the various connectors, I could check it out with my volt meter.
Thanks.
Howard

On 6/27/2022 4:54 PM, John Holcomb II wrote:

If you know the motherboard of your computer, you can do a google search to look up what the different beeps mean.
Every motherboard is different. 

John



On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:52 PM, Howard Traxler <htraxler7@...> wrote:

 Thanks Gene, that sure is something to consider.

Howard


On 6/27/2022 4:36 PM, Gene wrote:
It sounds to me as though the power supply is failing.  I am not a tech and I don't know how you test that but I suspect that insufficient voltage is causing the repeated beeps as an error message. 

Gene

On 6/27/2022 4:13 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
With help from you folks, I got my downstairs computer working pretty good.  But then:

Tried to boot it up last week and it wouldn't start.  It made a beep (through the internal system speaker) and just kept beeping; at about ten second intervals.  I took it onto the bench where I could check it out; and then it stopped even beeping; just whirred its fans.  Let it sit for a couple days and tried it again.  This time it came up in pretty good shape.  Put it back where it will be living and again it started just beeping.  This morning, I decided to give it another chance.  Tried it and it came up fine.  Left it on now and we'll see in a couple minutes when I go back down there.

It seems like it must be an electrical problem.  Anyone have an idea about what I should push on or wiggle to find out where the problem is?  I'm thinking, maybe, to reseat the memory sticks and maybe other connections to the system board?  Does that make sense?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Howard










Re: intermittant problems with dell computer

John Holcomb II
 

If you know the motherboard of your computer, you can do a google search to look up what the different beeps mean.
Every motherboard is different. 

John



On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:52 PM, Howard Traxler <htraxler7@...> wrote:

 Thanks Gene, that sure is something to consider.

Howard


On 6/27/2022 4:36 PM, Gene wrote:
It sounds to me as though the power supply is failing.  I am not a tech and I don't know how you test that but I suspect that insufficient voltage is causing the repeated beeps as an error message. 

Gene

On 6/27/2022 4:13 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
With help from you folks, I got my downstairs computer working pretty good.  But then:

Tried to boot it up last week and it wouldn't start.  It made a beep (through the internal system speaker) and just kept beeping; at about ten second intervals.  I took it onto the bench where I could check it out; and then it stopped even beeping; just whirred its fans.  Let it sit for a couple days and tried it again.  This time it came up in pretty good shape.  Put it back where it will be living and again it started just beeping.  This morning, I decided to give it another chance.  Tried it and it came up fine.  Left it on now and we'll see in a couple minutes when I go back down there.

It seems like it must be an electrical problem.  Anyone have an idea about what I should push on or wiggle to find out where the problem is?  I'm thinking, maybe, to reseat the memory sticks and maybe other connections to the system board?  Does that make sense?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Howard









Re: intermittant problems with dell computer

Howard Traxler
 

Thanks Gene, that sure is something to consider.

Howard


On 6/27/2022 4:36 PM, Gene wrote:

It sounds to me as though the power supply is failing.  I am not a tech and I don't know how you test that but I suspect that insufficient voltage is causing the repeated beeps as an error message. 

Gene

On 6/27/2022 4:13 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
With help from you folks, I got my downstairs computer working pretty good.  But then:

Tried to boot it up last week and it wouldn't start.  It made a beep (through the internal system speaker) and just kept beeping; at about ten second intervals.  I took it onto the bench where I could check it out; and then it stopped even beeping; just whirred its fans.  Let it sit for a couple days and tried it again.  This time it came up in pretty good shape.  Put it back where it will be living and again it started just beeping.  This morning, I decided to give it another chance.  Tried it and it came up fine.  Left it on now and we'll see in a couple minutes when I go back down there.

It seems like it must be an electrical problem.  Anyone have an idea about what I should push on or wiggle to find out where the problem is?  I'm thinking, maybe, to reseat the memory sticks and maybe other connections to the system board?  Does that make sense?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Howard









Re: intermittant problems with dell computer

Gene
 

It sounds to me as though the power supply is failing.  I am not a tech and I don't know how you test that but I suspect that insufficient voltage is causing the repeated beeps as an error message. 

Gene

On 6/27/2022 4:13 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

With help from you folks, I got my downstairs computer working pretty good.  But then:

Tried to boot it up last week and it wouldn't start.  It made a beep (through the internal system speaker) and just kept beeping; at about ten second intervals.  I took it onto the bench where I could check it out; and then it stopped even beeping; just whirred its fans.  Let it sit for a couple days and tried it again.  This time it came up in pretty good shape.  Put it back where it will be living and again it started just beeping.  This morning, I decided to give it another chance.  Tried it and it came up fine.  Left it on now and we'll see in a couple minutes when I go back down there.

It seems like it must be an electrical problem.  Anyone have an idea about what I should push on or wiggle to find out where the problem is?  I'm thinking, maybe, to reseat the memory sticks and maybe other connections to the system board?  Does that make sense?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Howard








intermittant problems with dell computer

Howard Traxler
 

With help from you folks, I got my downstairs computer working pretty good.  But then:

Tried to boot it up last week and it wouldn't start.  It made a beep (through the internal system speaker) and just kept beeping; at about ten second intervals.  I took it onto the bench where I could check it out; and then it stopped even beeping; just whirred its fans.  Let it sit for a couple days and tried it again.  This time it came up in pretty good shape.  Put it back where it will be living and again it started just beeping.  This morning, I decided to give it another chance.  Tried it and it came up fine.  Left it on now and we'll see in a couple minutes when I go back down there.

It seems like it must be an electrical problem.  Anyone have an idea about what I should push on or wiggle to find out where the problem is?  I'm thinking, maybe, to reseat the memory sticks and maybe other connections to the system board?  Does that make sense?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Howard


Re: determining the number of bluetooth connections

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Madison, bluetooth DOES NOT CARE about the number of bluetooth toys you have
pared/connected. I've been known to use a headset, keyboard, speaker, etc.
simultaneously without hurting a fly. Each of these is a bluetooth toy.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado






Hi, I am Android, the THINKING PERSON'S OS!!


determining the number of bluetooth connections

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,

Is there any way that I can determine the number of things that I can have connected to my laptop at a time? Currently I have two but I have a Bluetooth keyboard that I’d really like to connect to my laptop until we figure out how best to fix the broken key on my laptop but I’d hate to connect it only to find out that I have too many things connected, so really hope someone can help me!! My laptop is a Lenovo think book 13s if that matters at all.

Madison

 


Re: Outbox.

Gene
 

Also, Thunderbird uses the address book, called contacts in Thunderbird for autocomplete.  I recall you had a problem because Outlook uses two separate places, one for the address book, one for autocomplete. 

I think Thunderbird is a better choice for those who don't want or need special business features Outlook offers.

Gene

On 6/27/2022 1:00 PM, Gene wrote:

I'm not sure  I recall what all your problems are.  You might be able to end them all by trying Thunderbird.  I don't know if the Microsoft disability person is reliable.  I've heard reports indicating that different techs who work for the service vary widely in their competence.  However, whatever your problems are, my impression is that, aside from remoting into your machine, they all concern e-mail. 

If you want to continue to use Outlook, you may want to continue to work on the problems.  If you want to try Thunderbird, that may resolve all the problems and since you can keep Outlook on your machine and try Thunderbird, what do you have to lose except perhaps some time?  You may say you may have more frustration but your frustration may be less and much shorter duration if you find that Thunderbird solves your problems.

If desired, I can help you set up your accounts in Thunderbird.  Using Thunderbird for reading and replying to e-mail should be similar to using Outlook.  The five Windows e-mail programs I've used are similar or very similar in terms of common uses of the sort. 

Gene

On 6/27/2022 12:36 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
Microsoft Disability said my problems were too complicated for them to fix, but that if when my computer guy comes, if he needs it, they'll be happy to work with him. We could not even get Quick Access in, so that he could tandem my computer. No wonder I haven't gotten anywhere with it, and with all the help here too. 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 6:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.

You might as well try my solution of opening a message in the outbox, shift tabbing to the from line, and up and down arrowing to see if you can change the account it is sent from.  While this doesn't work in Thunderbird, it does in Windows Live Mail, I just checked.

Since Windows Live Mail is a Microsoft [product and Thunderbird isn't, this may well work in Outlook, even though it doesn't in Thunderbird.

Gene


On 6/21/2022 4:52 PM, Gene wrote:


	I just tried this in Thunderbird.  My second solution, the one I discuss in the below quoted message, may not work.  When  a message is in the inbox, ready to be sent, it can't be worked on further.  I can open it and read it but I can't make any changes.
	
	However, there is a way that may work in your case that is easier than the copy and paste solution.  In Thunderbird, I can forward messages that are in the outbox.  You can try that.
	
	Gene
	
	
	On 6/21/2022 4:39 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
	

		there may be another solution I just thought of but I'm not sure how you do this in Outlook.  Others will, I hope discuss it.
		
		Open an unsent message and change the account it is sent from.  In e-mail programs I've used, this is done by shift tabbing until you get to the from line.  From there, you up or down arrow, whichever works, to change the account the message is to be sent from.  
		
		I am assuming that the messages in the outbox can be opened and worked with as though they were drafts and the way to change things in messages are the same as though you were working with an opened message you had begun or replied to in the usual way.
		
		Gene
		
		
		On 6/21/2022 4:35 PM, Gene wrote:
		

			You can't send them anyway as they are.  You can do the following:
			/copy the message body of a message in the outbox to the clipboard.  Then, using your other account, create a message to whomever it is intended, paste the message body in, and send it from the other account.  
			
			If there are problems doing that, let us know and people will likely discuss how to get around them.  
			
			Gene
			
			
			On 6/21/2022 4:20 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
			

				I have your instructions saved, but right now, no one who knows what to do. 
				
				If I deleted the emails, I'd lose them. 
				
				I have tried moving them from Outboox to another mailbox, then going in and sending again; that does not usually work. 
				
				-----Original Message-----
				From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
				Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:27 PM
				To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> 
				Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.
				
				To stop the problem, find the outbox and delete all messages in it.  Then send mail only from your other address.  Don't even bother entering your password.  Just close the dialog with escape and use your other e-mail provider until you resolve the problem.  
				
				Do you know someone who can follow instructions such as I wrote?  Even if the person doesn't understand why these things are done, if someone knows how to work with web sites in terms of working with forms, they can do what is needed.
				
				Or, you can use the Windows Mail app for now.  You don't need an application specific password for it.
				
				Gene
				GeneOn 6/21/2022 2:23 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
				
				
					It does have the Send later, when I exit. The work around I am finding is Windows M to get out of Outlook without closing it, then Alt+Tab back in. 
					
					All of this is connected with the Gmail that keeps wanting my password, which I give, but it does not take, so it now is imposing on myh Windstream boxes. 
					
					I did call a computer man last week, but they were moving into their new store, plus they mainly do commercial. I am trying to cripple until I move around the first of August, when I will have to get some help. 
					
					-----Original Message-----
					From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>   [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
					Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 7:37 PM
					To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  
					Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.
					
					If messages  are stuck in the outbox in e-mail programs I've used, the program asks if you want to send them at some point, or if you issue a general send/receive command, it will send them if it can.  
					
					Thunderbird asks if you want to send unsent messages when you open the program.  Outlook likely does something like that but whether it does or not, it very likely would send them when you issue a send/receive command.
					
					Does Outlook have a send later command that you might accidentally be executing when you mean to execute a send command?  Thunderbird has a send later command, control shift enter.  the send immediately command is control enter.  At some point, those using the keyboard are likely to accidentally issue control shift enter instead of enter.  
					
					Not using Outlook, I'm asking questions and raising possibilities that may be useful.
					
					Gene
					
					
							On Jun 20, 2022, at 6:33 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...>  <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...>   <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...>  <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...>    wrote:
							
							
					
							 
					
							I have messages stuck in my Outbox. What do I do to get them unstuck. I hope this one will go. 
					
					
					
					
					
					
					
					
					
				
				
				
				
				
				
				
				
				















Re: Outbox.

Gene
 

Also, I am not convinced that your problems with Quick Access are any
more than you needing to update the program. Recently, there was a
thread where the need to update the program was the cause of one or
two people not being able to use the utility.

Gene

On 6/27/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I'm not sure I recall what all your problems are. You might be able to
end them all by trying Thunderbird. I don't know if the Microsoft
disability person is reliable. I've heard reports indicating that
different techs who work for the service vary widely in their
competence. However, whatever your problems are, my impression is that,
aside from remoting into your machine, they all concern e-mail.

If you want to continue to use Outlook, you may want to continue to work
on the problems. If you want to try Thunderbird, that may resolve all
the problems and since you can keep Outlook on your machine and try
Thunderbird, what do you have to lose except perhaps some time? You may
say you may have more frustration but your frustration may be less and
much shorter duration if you find that Thunderbird solves your problems.

If desired, I can help you set up your accounts in Thunderbird. Using
Thunderbird for reading and replying to e-mail should be similar to
using Outlook. The five Windows e-mail programs I've used are similar
or very similar in terms of common uses of the sort.

Gene

On 6/27/2022 12:36 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
Microsoft Disability said my problems were too complicated for them to
fix, but that if when my computer guy comes, if he needs it, they'll be
happy to work with him. We could not even get Quick Access in, so that he
could tandem my computer. No wonder I haven't gotten anywhere with it, and
with all the help here too.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 6:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.

You might as well try my solution of opening a message in the outbox,
shift tabbing to the from line, and up and down arrowing to see if you can
change the account it is sent from. While this doesn't work in
Thunderbird, it does in Windows Live Mail, I just checked.

Since Windows Live Mail is a Microsoft [product and Thunderbird isn't,
this may well work in Outlook, even though it doesn't in Thunderbird.

Gene


On 6/21/2022 4:52 PM, Gene wrote:


I just tried this in Thunderbird. My second solution, the one I discuss
in the below quoted message, may not work. When a message is in the
inbox, ready to be sent, it can't be worked on further. I can open it and
read it but I can't make any changes.

However, there is a way that may work in your case that is easier than
the copy and paste solution. In Thunderbird, I can forward messages that
are in the outbox. You can try that.

Gene


On 6/21/2022 4:39 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:


there may be another solution I just thought of but I'm not sure how you
do this in Outlook. Others will, I hope discuss it.

Open an unsent message and change the account it is sent from. In
e-mail programs I've used, this is done by shift tabbing until you get to
the from line. From there, you up or down arrow, whichever works, to
change the account the message is to be sent from.

I am assuming that the messages in the outbox can be opened and worked
with as though they were drafts and the way to change things in messages
are the same as though you were working with an opened message you had
begun or replied to in the usual way.

Gene


On 6/21/2022 4:35 PM, Gene wrote:


You can't send them anyway as they are. You can do the following:
/copy the message body of a message in the outbox to the clipboard.
Then, using your other account, create a message to whomever it is
intended, paste the message body in, and send it from the other account.

If there are problems doing that, let us know and people will likely
discuss how to get around them.

Gene


On 6/21/2022 4:20 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:


I have your instructions saved, but right now, no one who knows what
to do.

If I deleted the emails, I'd lose them.

I have tried moving them from Outboox to another mailbox, then going
in and sending again; that does not usually work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.

To stop the problem, find the outbox and delete all messages in it.
Then send mail only from your other address. Don't even bother entering
your password. Just close the dialog with escape and use your other
e-mail provider until you resolve the problem.

Do you know someone who can follow instructions such as I wrote? Even
if the person doesn't understand why these things are done, if someone
knows how to work with web sites in terms of working with forms, they can
do what is needed.

Or, you can use the Windows Mail app for now. You don't need an
application specific password for it.

Gene
GeneOn 6/21/2022 2:23 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:


It does have the Send later, when I exit. The work around I am
finding is Windows M to get out of Outlook without closing it, then
Alt+Tab back in.

All of this is connected with the Gmail that keeps wanting my
password, which I give, but it does not take, so it now is imposing on myh
Windstream boxes.

I did call a computer man last week, but they were moving into their
new store, plus they mainly do commercial. I am trying to cripple until I
move around the first of August, when I will have to get some help.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
[mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 7:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
<mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.

If messages are stuck in the outbox in e-mail programs I've used,
the program asks if you want to send them at some point, or if you issue a
general send/receive command, it will send them if it can.

Thunderbird asks if you want to send unsent messages when you open
the program. Outlook likely does something like that but whether it does
or not, it very likely would send them when you issue a send/receive
command.

Does Outlook have a send later command that you might accidentally be
executing when you mean to execute a send command? Thunderbird has a send
later command, control shift enter. the send immediately command is
control enter. At some point, those using the keyboard are likely to
accidentally issue control shift enter instead of enter.

Not using Outlook, I'm asking questions and raising possibilities
that may be useful.

Gene


On Jun 20, 2022, at 6:33 PM, Carolyn Arnold
<4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...>
<mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...>
<mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...>
<mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...>
wrote:





I have messages stuck in my Outbox. What do I do to get them
unstuck. I hope this one will go.






























Re: Outbox.

Gene
 

I'm not sure  I recall what all your problems are.  You might be able to end them all by trying Thunderbird.  I don't know if the Microsoft disability person is reliable.  I've heard reports indicating that different techs who work for the service vary widely in their competence.  However, whatever your problems are, my impression is that, aside from remoting into your machine, they all concern e-mail. 

If you want to continue to use Outlook, you may want to continue to work on the problems.  If you want to try Thunderbird, that may resolve all the problems and since you can keep Outlook on your machine and try Thunderbird, what do you have to lose except perhaps some time?  You may say you may have more frustration but your frustration may be less and much shorter duration if you find that Thunderbird solves your problems.

If desired, I can help you set up your accounts in Thunderbird.  Using Thunderbird for reading and replying to e-mail should be similar to using Outlook.  The five Windows e-mail programs I've used are similar or very similar in terms of common uses of the sort. 

Gene

On 6/27/2022 12:36 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:

Microsoft Disability said my problems were too complicated for them to fix, but that if when my computer guy comes, if he needs it, they'll be happy to work with him. We could not even get Quick Access in, so that he could tandem my computer. No wonder I haven't gotten anywhere with it, and with all the help here too. 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 6:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.

You might as well try my solution of opening a message in the outbox, shift tabbing to the from line, and up and down arrowing to see if you can change the account it is sent from.  While this doesn't work in Thunderbird, it does in Windows Live Mail, I just checked.

Since Windows Live Mail is a Microsoft [product and Thunderbird isn't, this may well work in Outlook, even though it doesn't in Thunderbird.

Gene


On 6/21/2022 4:52 PM, Gene wrote:


	I just tried this in Thunderbird.  My second solution, the one I discuss in the below quoted message, may not work.  When  a message is in the inbox, ready to be sent, it can't be worked on further.  I can open it and read it but I can't make any changes.
	
	However, there is a way that may work in your case that is easier than the copy and paste solution.  In Thunderbird, I can forward messages that are in the outbox.  You can try that.
	
	Gene
	
	
	On 6/21/2022 4:39 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
	

		there may be another solution I just thought of but I'm not sure how you do this in Outlook.  Others will, I hope discuss it.
		
		Open an unsent message and change the account it is sent from.  In e-mail programs I've used, this is done by shift tabbing until you get to the from line.  From there, you up or down arrow, whichever works, to change the account the message is to be sent from.  
		
		I am assuming that the messages in the outbox can be opened and worked with as though they were drafts and the way to change things in messages are the same as though you were working with an opened message you had begun or replied to in the usual way.
		
		Gene
		
		
		On 6/21/2022 4:35 PM, Gene wrote:
		

			You can't send them anyway as they are.  You can do the following:
			/copy the message body of a message in the outbox to the clipboard.  Then, using your other account, create a message to whomever it is intended, paste the message body in, and send it from the other account.  
			
			If there are problems doing that, let us know and people will likely discuss how to get around them.  
			
			Gene
			
			
			On 6/21/2022 4:20 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
			

				I have your instructions saved, but right now, no one who knows what to do. 
				
				If I deleted the emails, I'd lose them. 
				
				I have tried moving them from Outboox to another mailbox, then going in and sending again; that does not usually work. 
				
				-----Original Message-----
				From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
				Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:27 PM
				To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> 
				Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.
				
				To stop the problem, find the outbox and delete all messages in it.  Then send mail only from your other address.  Don't even bother entering your password.  Just close the dialog with escape and use your other e-mail provider until you resolve the problem.  
				
				Do you know someone who can follow instructions such as I wrote?  Even if the person doesn't understand why these things are done, if someone knows how to work with web sites in terms of working with forms, they can do what is needed.
				
				Or, you can use the Windows Mail app for now.  You don't need an application specific password for it.
				
				Gene
				GeneOn 6/21/2022 2:23 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
				
				
					It does have the Send later, when I exit. The work around I am finding is Windows M to get out of Outlook without closing it, then Alt+Tab back in. 
					
					All of this is connected with the Gmail that keeps wanting my password, which I give, but it does not take, so it now is imposing on myh Windstream boxes. 
					
					I did call a computer man last week, but they were moving into their new store, plus they mainly do commercial. I am trying to cripple until I move around the first of August, when I will have to get some help. 
					
					-----Original Message-----
					From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>   [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
					Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 7:37 PM
					To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>  
					Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.
					
					If messages  are stuck in the outbox in e-mail programs I've used, the program asks if you want to send them at some point, or if you issue a general send/receive command, it will send them if it can.  
					
					Thunderbird asks if you want to send unsent messages when you open the program.  Outlook likely does something like that but whether it does or not, it very likely would send them when you issue a send/receive command.
					
					Does Outlook have a send later command that you might accidentally be executing when you mean to execute a send command?  Thunderbird has a send later command, control shift enter.  the send immediately command is control enter.  At some point, those using the keyboard are likely to accidentally issue control shift enter instead of enter.  
					
					Not using Outlook, I'm asking questions and raising possibilities that may be useful.
					
					Gene
					
					
							On Jun 20, 2022, at 6:33 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...>  <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...>   <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...>  <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...>    wrote:
							
							
					
							 
					
							I have messages stuck in my Outbox. What do I do to get them unstuck. I hope this one will go. 
					
					
					
					
					
					
					
					
					
				
				
				
				
				
				
				
				
				














Re: Outbox.

Carolyn Arnold
 

Microsoft Disability said my problems were too complicated for them to fix, but that if when my computer guy comes, if he needs it, they'll be happy to work with him. We could not even get Quick Access in, so that he could tandem my computer. No wonder I haven't gotten anywhere with it, and with all the help here too.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 6:03 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.

You might as well try my solution of opening a message in the outbox, shift tabbing to the from line, and up and down arrowing to see if you can change the account it is sent from. While this doesn't work in Thunderbird, it does in Windows Live Mail, I just checked.

Since Windows Live Mail is a Microsoft [product and Thunderbird isn't, this may well work in Outlook, even though it doesn't in Thunderbird.

Gene


On 6/21/2022 4:52 PM, Gene wrote:


I just tried this in Thunderbird. My second solution, the one I discuss in the below quoted message, may not work. When a message is in the inbox, ready to be sent, it can't be worked on further. I can open it and read it but I can't make any changes.

However, there is a way that may work in your case that is easier than the copy and paste solution. In Thunderbird, I can forward messages that are in the outbox. You can try that.

Gene


On 6/21/2022 4:39 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:


there may be another solution I just thought of but I'm not sure how you do this in Outlook. Others will, I hope discuss it.

Open an unsent message and change the account it is sent from. In e-mail programs I've used, this is done by shift tabbing until you get to the from line. From there, you up or down arrow, whichever works, to change the account the message is to be sent from.

I am assuming that the messages in the outbox can be opened and worked with as though they were drafts and the way to change things in messages are the same as though you were working with an opened message you had begun or replied to in the usual way.

Gene


On 6/21/2022 4:35 PM, Gene wrote:


You can't send them anyway as they are. You can do the following:
/copy the message body of a message in the outbox to the clipboard. Then, using your other account, create a message to whomever it is intended, paste the message body in, and send it from the other account.

If there are problems doing that, let us know and people will likely discuss how to get around them.

Gene


On 6/21/2022 4:20 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:


I have your instructions saved, but right now, no one who knows what to do.

If I deleted the emails, I'd lose them.

I have tried moving them from Outboox to another mailbox, then going in and sending again; that does not usually work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:27 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.

To stop the problem, find the outbox and delete all messages in it. Then send mail only from your other address. Don't even bother entering your password. Just close the dialog with escape and use your other e-mail provider until you resolve the problem.

Do you know someone who can follow instructions such as I wrote? Even if the person doesn't understand why these things are done, if someone knows how to work with web sites in terms of working with forms, they can do what is needed.

Or, you can use the Windows Mail app for now. You don't need an application specific password for it.

Gene
GeneOn 6/21/2022 2:23 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:


It does have the Send later, when I exit. The work around I am finding is Windows M to get out of Outlook without closing it, then Alt+Tab back in.

All of this is connected with the Gmail that keeps wanting my password, which I give, but it does not take, so it now is imposing on myh Windstream boxes.

I did call a computer man last week, but they were moving into their new store, plus they mainly do commercial. I am trying to cripple until I move around the first of August, when I will have to get some help.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> [mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2022 7:37 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io> <mailto:main@TechTalk.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Outbox.

If messages are stuck in the outbox in e-mail programs I've used, the program asks if you want to send them at some point, or if you issue a general send/receive command, it will send them if it can.

Thunderbird asks if you want to send unsent messages when you open the program. Outlook likely does something like that but whether it does or not, it very likely would send them when you issue a send/receive command.

Does Outlook have a send later command that you might accidentally be executing when you mean to execute a send command? Thunderbird has a send later command, control shift enter. the send immediately command is control enter. At some point, those using the keyboard are likely to accidentally issue control shift enter instead of enter.

Not using Outlook, I'm asking questions and raising possibilities that may be useful.

Gene


On Jun 20, 2022, at 6:33 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> <mailto:4carolyna@...> wrote:





I have messages stuck in my Outbox. What do I do to get them unstuck. I hope this one will go.


Re: fixing a broken key on my laptop keyboard

Ann Marie Medlar
 

Hi,

I googled it and below is youtube link. 

Sounds complicated.  I would just bring to shop and ask them to fix it.

But if you feel confident then try it yourself.

Video suggests key likely dirty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqrchfpdJ_w

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2022 1:44 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] fixing a broken key on my laptop keyboard

 

Hi all,

A piece of my escape key just broke; it’s a perfect square and the part that’s left is all squished down, there wasn’t a crack in it or anything and my laptop is just over two years old. So I’m wondering, is there anyway that I can fix this key or do I have to take it into the store where we bought my laptop and get them to replace it (if that’s even possible; I have no clue if this model is still made)? If I can fix it then please tell me how to do it. Really hope there’s something that I can do as like I said I’m not even sure if this model is still being made.

Madison

 


Re: fixing a broken key on my laptop keyboard

Madison Martin
 

No, but if the rest of it was squished down then it likely would

 

From: main@TechTalk.groups.io <main@TechTalk.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 26, 2022 12:51 PM
To: main@TechTalk.groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] fixing a broken key on my laptop keyboard

 

If you place the key where it should be and push, does the key move and work as it should? 

Gene

On 6/26/2022 12:44 PM, Madison Martin wrote:

Hi all,

A piece of my escape key just broke; it’s a perfect square and the part that’s left is all squished down, there wasn’t a crack in it or anything and my laptop is just over two years old. So I’m wondering, is there anyway that I can fix this key or do I have to take it into the store where we bought my laptop and get them to replace it (if that’s even possible; I have no clue if this model is still made)? If I can fix it then please tell me how to do it. Really hope there’s something that I can do as like I said I’m not even sure if this model is still being made.

Madison

 

 

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