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Re: The drop down box

Jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

Howdy,
Not super sure if this will be of any help to you, but here's kinda a strange issue that I have on my Mikrotik's web configuration pages within some of the combo boxes that sorta sounded similar to what you described and my workarounds for being able to select options inside them.

So, here's the skinny. When I try and enter one of these combo boxes and try to move to another option inside it, it will do one of two things, either bounce me back to the option that was first selected or completely kick me out of the combo box. There are times where using alt plus down arrow seems to help and things work a little better, however, more often than not, pressing alt plus down has NVDA announcing browse mode and I am returned outside the combo box again.
I'm not really sure if it's just something specific to the way the pages are designed, something screwy between the screenreader and firefox or something completely different, but when I encounter one of these combo boxes, I end up having to use object navigation to locate it and then use NVDA plus enter to select and open it. There are instances where using the up and down arrows still do not function as they should here, so I then have to use object navigation to move through the listed options and use NVDA's ability to rout the mouse to that location, so I can single click with my left mouse button to select the one I want.
Like I said, I'm not totally sure that it's the same thing that's causing what you were talking about, but this has been a pretty recent thing for me, not really ever seen it anywhere else, so figured I'd mention it in hopes that it may help.
Take care.

On 1/8/2016 7:07 PM, emile wrote:
I am using system access as well as NVDA. No, the page does not refresh. All I know is that I cannot select the different banks that I wish to use unless the screen readers are closed.
Emile.
*From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
*Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 2:21 PM
*To:* TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box
Is the problem that you are constantly taken out of forms mode or equivalent when the page refreshes? Are you taken to the top of the page and out of the combo box? I don't recall if you said which screen-reader you are using. You may be able to stop the screen-reader from leaving forms mode or equivalent when the page refreshes and thus solve the problem.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com>
*Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 2:12 PM
*To:* TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

I’ve tried all of those over the years; however, on certain sites, the minute I am in the box, bam! It refreshes.

*From:*Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@charter.net]
*Sent:* Friday, January 8, 2016 11:59 AM
*To:* TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

Hi Kimsan,

See if 1 of the notes below will help:

*From: Don Marang **
*First you activate Forms Mode on the combo box by pressing the Spacebar or enter. *
*Now the secret is to press Alt + Down Arrow to open the list of options. *
*Actually, it looks like a drop down list. It is now safe to Arrow Up and *
*Down through the list without the page refreshing. Pressing Alt + Up Arrow *
*will close the list of options and only show the selected item. On pages *
*that automatically refresh, it will happen at this point.**

*Don Marang**
*From: Sherri *
*I press alt and then down-arrow and it changes to a list view and I can then *
*arrow to the appropriate choice and press enter.*
*Sherri*
*From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press *
*Just to add one more little thing. Sometimes when you get into those *
*things and use the alt down arrow, when you move down, it doesn't say *
*the entry. If you tab and then shift tab back it will read it. I *
*always feel like i'm sneaking up on it.*
*Bets**

Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Kimsan <mailto:kimsansong@outlook.com>

*To:*TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>

*Sent:*Friday, January 08, 2016 11:53 AM

*Subject:*Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

With comboboxes, how does one stop the page refreshing. Meaning, I’d select an item from the combobox and it’s not what I want but it then kicks me out of it.

*From:*Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@charter.net]
*Sent:* Friday, January 8, 2016 11:51 AM
*To:* TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

Hi,

Sometimes with Jaws you need to press enter on the combobox to open it then, press, Alt + down arrow, to expand it.

Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>

*To:*TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>

*Sent:*Friday, January 08, 2016 11:23 AM

*Subject:*Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

I should correct my last message. I didn't realize it, but I gave the command control down arrow. The correct command is alt down arrow.

If you have other accessibility problems on web sites that you haven't found answers to, presenting them here may allow you to find solutions. There may be other aspects of using the Internet that you didn't get good advice on.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:*TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@ml1.net>

*Sent:*Friday, January 08, 2016 1:05 PM

*To:*TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

Hi Gene,

Very interesting. Over the years, I have complained and have just been told that it is a problem with the web site. I’ll have to try to find a site or two on which to try your keystrokes. Thanks so much,

TerriLynne

*From:*Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
*Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 11:28 AM
*To:* TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

Are you opening combo boxes with control down arrow before moving in them? I'm not saying that will address all the problems you are discussing, but when you down arrow and are moved to another page, that is commonly caused by not issuing the control down arrow command before attempting to move. The sequence is control down arrow, then move in the combo box, then press enter on the item you want to activate or select.

I don't know what you already know, so I'm providing information in case it is useful.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:*TerriLynne Pomeroy <mailto:tl1@ml1.net>

*Sent:*Friday, January 08, 2016 12:08 PM

*To:*TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

Some drop down boxes, depending on how the site has been programmed or written, just don’t work with screen readers, or, at least, with JAWS, which is what I use. Some don’t speak the list, but if I tab forward and then backward, it will tell me what I am on. Some actually kick me out of the box so that I don’t have to tab before back tabbing. I have even had the experience of arrowing down once and having the web page move forward to the next page associated with that choice.

TerriLynne

*From:*Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
*Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 9:13 AM
*To:* TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

You didn't say which screen-reader you are using. I can make suggestions but the suggestions might be better if I knew the screen-reader being used.trying another screen-reader may help. If not, it may be a case of inaccessibility. Also, can this page be used without logging in? If so, it is important to give the link so people can try using the page and try different solutions.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:*emile <mailto:emilet1@live.com>

*Sent:*Friday, January 08, 2016 9:43 AM

*To:*TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>

*Subject:*[TechTalk] The drop down box

Using internet explorer 11, firefox or chrome, I go to different websites where the drop down box was not work properly. In those drop down boxes, when I press alt-down arrow, I should be able to see the list of banks that I can use however, none of those banks show up unless I turn off my speech programs such as: system access or NVDA. I discovered this phenomena having a sighted person also looking at the screen. By using the mouse this person is able to select the proper bank that I want to use however, when turning the speech program back on, the sighted person can still see the list of banks however, he indicated that he too cannot select the list of banks. How can I remedy this problem? thanks for your help in advance.

Emile.


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On 9 January 2016 at 17:35, Matt <matt.from.florida@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, decided to join the eyes free list . But how do you send an email to
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Re: BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical keyboard #article

Dennis Long <dennisl1982@...>
 

I'm interested as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: Iaen Cordell [mailto:ianc@optusnet.com.au]
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 1:22 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical
keyboard

also as it is a Blackberry device it will have more security options.
cheers
IC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical
keyboard


No nothing I read said anything about the blind market. It is a main
stream phone but Android phone with a slide out keyboard and touch
screen as well.
It sounds like the old Motorola Droid phones that you can still get
but not being updated and cannot get new. So for Android users who
like both worlds touch screen and a keyboard this is a blessing to
them. I very interested in it myself since it has a physical keyboard
to it.


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 9:11 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a
physical keyboard

I wish them luck too, especially, if they're depending on a blind market.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
[mailto:ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com]
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 8:44 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a
physical keyboard

In the United States, the Priv is selling for somewhere between $750
and $800. It's Blackberry's attempt to regain LOST GLORY in the
marketplace.


If it's not peppered with a lot of bloatware, it might--just
might--make huge gains amongst blind folks who want a device with a
physical keyboard.
I wish the company luck!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado















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Eyes free list for Android

Matt
 

Well, decided to join the eyes free list . But how do you send an email to the list?

 

 

Matt.from.florida@...

 


Re: BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical keyboard #article

Iaen Cordell
 

also as it is a Blackberry device it will have more security options.
cheers
IC

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt" <matt.from.florida@gmail.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical keyboard


No nothing I read said anything about the blind market. It is a main stream
phone but Android phone with a slide out keyboard and touch screen as well.
It sounds like the old Motorola Droid phones that you can still get but not
being updated and cannot get new. So for Android users who like both worlds
touch screen and a keyboard this is a blessing to them. I very interested in
it myself since it has a physical keyboard to it.


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 9:11 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical
keyboard

I wish them luck too, especially, if they're depending on a blind market.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
[mailto:ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com]
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 8:44 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical
keyboard

In the United States, the Priv is selling for somewhere between $750 and
$800. It's Blackberry's attempt to regain LOST GLORY in the marketplace.


If it's not peppered with a lot of bloatware, it might--just might--make
huge gains amongst blind folks who want a device with a physical keyboard.
I wish the company luck!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado














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Re: BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical keyboard #article

Matt
 

Well, not only that but visual people as well, there is lots of visual
people that wants a physical keyboard on their phone. They like the option
of a touch screen with a physical keyboard to go along with it.


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
[mailto:ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 8:44 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical
keyboard

In the United States, the Priv is selling for somewhere between $750 and
$800. It's Blackberry's attempt to regain LOST GLORY in the marketplace.

If it's not peppered with a lot of bloatware, it might--just might--make
huge gains amongst blind folks who want a device with a physical keyboard.
I wish the company luck!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical keyboard #article

Matt
 

No nothing I read said anything about the blind market. It is a main stream
phone but Android phone with a slide out keyboard and touch screen as well.
It sounds like the old Motorola Droid phones that you can still get but not
being updated and cannot get new. So for Android users who like both worlds
touch screen and a keyboard this is a blessing to them. I very interested in
it myself since it has a physical keyboard to it.


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 9:11 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical
keyboard

I wish them luck too, especially, if they're depending on a blind market.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
[mailto:ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com]
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 8:44 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical
keyboard

In the United States, the Priv is selling for somewhere between $750 and
$800. It's Blackberry's attempt to regain LOST GLORY in the marketplace.


If it's not peppered with a lot of bloatware, it might--just might--make
huge gains amongst blind folks who want a device with a physical keyboard.
I wish the company luck!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: cell phones

Matt
 

Ok, here is a podcast on the haven just follow the link. HTH !
BTW: it is not by me but why invent the wheel when it is already invented.

http://www.mysticaccesspodcast.com/audio/haven/Samsung%20Haven%20tour.zip


Matt.from.florida@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold [mailto:4carolyna@windstream.net]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 8:14 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cell phones

If you give a pod cast for the Haven, please let us know. I like my Haven,
but probably could learn more.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt [mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 2:28 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cell phones

Yes and if on Verizon there is the Samsung Haven which is an older phone a
flip phone but is very accessible and I can give a podcast to it if wanted.





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com <mailto:Matt.from.florida@gmail.com>



From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 1:40 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cell phones



There are phones you can buy from T Mobile that have buttons. I have one.
I don't know how many of them are accessible, but mine is.



I am not recommending my phone, but if you want to hear a demonstration of
my phone to get an idea of what features you might find and how they might
function, you can download my demonstration. I did it for Accessible World.

http://www.accessibleworld.org/sites/default/files/tt-11-17-14-bookshare-
web-site-non-smart-phone-voice-spotify.mp3



There is another presentation by someone else in the same file but mine is
there.



Gene



From: Pamela Dominguez <mailto:geodom@optonline.net>

Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 11:29 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>

Subject: [TechTalk] cell phones



Hi! I may have to replace my cellphone. I am on TMobile. I do not want to
get an iPhone or an android phone. Is there any phone I could get that has
buttons and that would work with TMobile? A friend of mine said she went to
a TMobile store, and all she could find were flat screen phones. I hope
somebody has some ideas. Thanks. Pam.


Re: cell phones

mike bader <mdbader@...>
 

You may want to try Cricket Wireless. (AT&T)
No contract.
You can get a free windows phone.
https://www.cricketwireless.com/
They may have button phones or used phones.

I am happy with them.
I have two lines.

Michael Bader KB8JHC@arrl.net
Computer Services - Local and Remote
http://www.lansolutions.info
http://qsl.net.kb8jhc

On 1/8/2016 10:38 PM, Allen West wrote:
On 1/8/16, Pamela Dominguez <geodom@optonline.net> wrote:
Hi! I may have to replace my cellphone. I am on TMobile. I do not want to
get an iPhone or an android phone. Is there any phone I could get that has
buttons and that would work with TMobile? A friend of mine said she went to
a TMobile store, and all she could find were flat screen phones. I hope
somebody has some ideas. Thanks. Pam.
You can find the SamSung Haven and a few other phones with buttons at
Accessible Electronics.

www.talkingmp3players.com

There are podcasts on the site for all their phones

Allen


Re: cell phones

Allen West
 

On 1/8/16, Pamela Dominguez <geodom@optonline.net> wrote:
Hi! I may have to replace my cellphone. I am on TMobile. I do not want to
get an iPhone or an android phone. Is there any phone I could get that has
buttons and that would work with TMobile? A friend of mine said she went to
a TMobile store, and all she could find were flat screen phones. I hope
somebody has some ideas. Thanks. Pam.
You can find the SamSung Haven and a few other phones with buttons at
Accessible Electronics.

www.talkingmp3players.com

There are podcasts on the site for all their phones

Allen


Re: cell phones

joseph hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Carolyn, I have a podcast done for the Haven if you wish number it will be below for you keep in mind coming you will have to be available in the states to hear this or have coming to the states to head this
8329998400
Joseph Hudson
Email
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
Twitter

FaceTime/iMessage

On Jan 8, 2016, at 7:14 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:

If you give a pod cast for the Haven, please let us know. I like my
Haven, but probably could learn more.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt [mailto:matt.from.florida@...]
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 2:28 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cell phones

Yes and if on Verizon there is the Samsung Haven which is an older phone
a flip phone but is very accessible and I can give a podcast to it if
wanted.





Matt.from.florida@... <mailto:Matt.from.florida@...>



From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 1:40 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cell phones



There are phones you can buy from T Mobile that have buttons.  I have
one.  I don't know how many of them are accessible, but mine is.  



I am not recommending my phone, but if you want to hear a demonstration
of my phone to get an idea of what features you might find and how they
might function, you can download my demonstration.  I did it for
Accessible World.

http://www.accessibleworld.org/sites/default/files/tt-11-17-14-bookshare-
web-site-non-smart-phone-voice-spotify.mp3



There is another presentation by someone else in the same file but mine
is there.



Gene



From: Pamela Dominguez <mailto:geodom@...>  

Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 11:29 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>  

Subject: [TechTalk] cell phones



Hi!  I may have to replace my cellphone.  I am on TMobile.  I do not want
to get an iPhone or an android phone.  Is there any phone I could get
that has buttons and that would work with TMobile?  A friend of mine said
she went to a TMobile store, and all she could find were flat screen
phones.  I hope somebody has some ideas.  Thanks.  Pam.








Re: BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical keyboard #article

Lenron
 

It ranges from 700 to 750 dollars. I have played with it not a bad
device at all. Wall mart will be selling it unlocked soon, if they are
already not. Bla feature phones to each they're own I would never go
back to something that wasn't a smart phone even if someone payed me.

On 1/8/16, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
<ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com> wrote:
Hmm, sis Carolyn, I won't say they are depending on the blind market; it's
possible there are many sighted folks who want a phone with a physical
keyboard. Though I don't have any data to support it, but, judging by the
conversations on the subject matter in the fora blind folks frequent, I
think that if it's affordable, most blind Android users will elect to grab
the Blackberry Priv as opposed to tinkering with a touchscreen phone.
This,
by and large will depend on the comfort level of each user me thinks!

Speaking specifically for myself, I don't think I'll ever go back to a
phone
with a physical keyboard unless, of course, I am unable to find that which
I
long for on a touchscreen phone. Thus far, this isn't the case.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado






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Re: BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical keyboard #article

Iaen Cordell
 

The Blackberry supports both the physical keyboard and the touchscreen.
I am looking forward to having a play with Priv, as from a Blackberry admin and a long time user of the various Blackberry clients on Nokia E90 communicator phones.
cheers
IC

----- Original Message -----
From: "Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc." <ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2016 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical keyboard


Hmm, sis Carolyn, I won't say they are depending on the blind market; it's
possible there are many sighted folks who want a phone with a physical
keyboard. Though I don't have any data to support it, but, judging by the
conversations on the subject matter in the fora blind folks frequent, I
think that if it's affordable, most blind Android users will elect to grab
the Blackberry Priv as opposed to tinkering with a touchscreen phone. This,
by and large will depend on the comfort level of each user me thinks!

Speaking specifically for myself, I don't think I'll ever go back to a phone
with a physical keyboard unless, of course, I am unable to find that which I
long for on a touchscreen phone. Thus far, this isn't the case.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado






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Re: BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical keyboard #article

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

Hmm, sis Carolyn, I won't say they are depending on the blind market; it's
possible there are many sighted folks who want a phone with a physical
keyboard. Though I don't have any data to support it, but, judging by the
conversations on the subject matter in the fora blind folks frequent, I
think that if it's affordable, most blind Android users will elect to grab
the Blackberry Priv as opposed to tinkering with a touchscreen phone. This,
by and large will depend on the comfort level of each user me thinks!

Speaking specifically for myself, I don't think I'll ever go back to a phone
with a physical keyboard unless, of course, I am unable to find that which I
long for on a touchscreen phone. Thus far, this isn't the case.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: converting notes and mp3 file

Jujube
 

Thanks. I was trying to answer a different question he asked. Sorry for the confusion.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@samobile.net
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date sent: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 20:10:24 -0500
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting notes and mp3 file

Hi all,

No, Ella, I don't think so. We're talking about converting a sound
file to a text file. That requires really specialized software.

Ann P.

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Re: The drop down box

Gene
 

I don't know why that is.  I thought that turning off the virtual pc cursor might help but if it doesn't, I'll offer a few suggestions, though I am not optimistic. 
 
If you haven't tried this in System Access, you may do so and see if you get any results.  When you are on the combo box, issue the command alt down arrow and see if you can move after that.  You may have already done this but in case you haven't, you just might get results.  Also, depending on how important this is to you and how much effort and time you want to devote to it, you might want to try Firefox, just in case.
 
Gene

From: emile
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

I am using system access as well as NVDA.  No, the page does not refresh.  All I know is that I cannot select the different banks that I wish to use unless the screen readers are closed.
Emile.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box
 
Is the problem that you are constantly taken out of forms mode or equivalent when the page refreshes?  Are you taken to the top of the page and out of the combo box?  I don't recall if you said which screen-reader you are using.  You may be able to stop the screen-reader from leaving forms mode or equivalent when the page refreshes and thus solve the problem.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Kimsan
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box
 

I’ve tried all of those over the years; however, on certain sites, the minute I am in the box, bam! It refreshes.

 

 

From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 11:59 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

 

Hi Kimsan,

 

See if 1 of the notes below will help:

From: Don Marang
First you activate Forms Mode on the combo box by pressing the Spacebar or enter.
Now the secret is to press Alt + Down Arrow to open the list of options.
Actually, it looks like a drop down list.  It is now safe to Arrow Up and
Down through the list without the page refreshing.  Pressing Alt + Up Arrow
will close the list of options and only show the selected item.  On pages
that automatically refresh, it will happen at this point.

 

Don Marang
From: Sherri
I press alt and then down-arrow and it changes to a list view and I can then
arrow to the appropriate choice and press enter.
Sherri
From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press
Just to add one more little thing. Sometimes when you get into those
things and use the alt down arrow, when you move down, it doesn't say
the entry. If you tab and then shift tab back it will read it. I
always feel like i'm sneaking up on it.
Bets

Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----

From: Kimsan

Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 11:53 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

 

With comboboxes, how does one stop the page refreshing.  Meaning, I’d select an item from the combobox and it’s not what I want but it then kicks me out of it.

 

From: Mike B. [mailto:mb69mach1@...]
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 11:51 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

 

Hi,

 

Sometimes with Jaws you need to press enter on the combobox to open it then, press, Alt + down arrow, to expand it.

Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 11:23 AM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

 

I should correct my last message.  I didn't realize it, but I gave the command control down arrow.  The correct command is alt down arrow.

 

If you have other accessibility problems on web sites that you haven't found answers to, presenting them here may allow you to find solutions.  There may be other aspects of using the Internet that you didn't get good advice on.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 1:05 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

 

Hi Gene,

Very interesting. Over the years, I have complained and have just been told that it is a problem with the web site. I’ll have to try to find a site or two on which to try your keystrokes. Thanks so much,

 

TerriLynne

 

From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 11:28 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

 

Are you opening combo boxes with control down arrow before moving in them?  I'm not saying that will address all the problems you are discussing, but when you down arrow and are moved to another page, that is commonly caused by not issuing the control down arrow command before attempting to move.  The sequence is control down arrow, then move in the combo box, then press enter on the item you want to activate or select. 

 

I don't know what you already know, so I'm providing information in case it is useful.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 12:08 PM

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

 

Some drop down boxes, depending on how the site has been programmed or written, just don’t work with screen readers, or, at least, with JAWS, which is what I use. Some don’t speak the list, but if I tab forward and then backward, it will tell me what I am on. Some actually kick me out of the box so that I don’t have to tab before back tabbing. I have even had the experience of arrowing down once and having the web page move forward to the next page associated with that choice.

 

TerriLynne

 

 

From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 9:13 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] The drop down box

 

You didn't say which screen-reader you are using.  I can make suggestions but the suggestions might be better if I knew the screen-reader being used.trying another screen-reader may help.  If not, it may be a case of inaccessibility.  Also, can this page be used without logging in?  If so, it is important to give the link so people can try using the page and try different solutions. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: emile

Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 9:43 AM

Subject: [TechTalk] The drop down box

 

Using internet explorer 11, firefox or chrome, I go to different websites where the drop down box was not work properly.  In those drop down boxes, when I press alt-down arrow, I should be able to see the list of banks that I can use however, none of those banks show up unless I turn off my speech programs such as: system access or NVDA.  I discovered this phenomena having a sighted person also looking at the screen.  By using the mouse this person is able to select the proper bank that I want to use however, when turning the speech program back on, the sighted person can still see the list of banks however, he indicated that he too cannot select the list of banks.  How can I remedy this problem? thanks for your help in advance.

Emile.


Re: BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical keyboard #article

Carolyn Arnold
 

I wish them luck too, especially, if they're depending on a blind market.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
[mailto:ukekearuaro@valtdnet.com]
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 8:44 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical
keyboard

In the United States, the Priv is selling for somewhere between $750 and
$800. It's Blackberry's attempt to regain LOST GLORY in the marketplace.


If it's not peppered with a lot of bloatware, it might--just might--make
huge gains amongst blind folks who want a device with a physical
keyboard.
I wish the company luck!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: BlackBerry Priv - Android phone with a physical keyboard #article

Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
 

In the United States, the Priv is selling for somewhere between $750 and
$800. It's Blackberry's attempt to regain LOST GLORY in the marketplace.

If it's not peppered with a lot of bloatware, it might--just might--make
huge gains amongst blind folks who want a device with a physical keyboard.
I wish the company luck!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


Re: converting notes and mp3 file

Cristóbal
 

If you're looking for an inexpensive option, Balabolka could probably do
this.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Parsons [mailto:akp@samobile.net]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 5:10 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] converting notes and mp3 file

Hi all,

No, Ella, I don't think so. We're talking about converting a sound
file to a text file. That requires really specialized software.

Ann P.

--
Ann K. Parsons
Portal Tutoring
EMAIL: akp@samobile.net
web site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
Skype: Putertutor

"All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost."


Re: cell phones

Carolyn Arnold
 

Also, if you are specifically interested in T-Mobile, contact them. Explain to them that you want to get a feature phone with full speech capability and buttons - all accessible to a blind person or person with limited vision. I think they have them. I talked to them during my search, but found that T-Mobile does not have good coverage in my area. I was very disappointed, because they have good plans. I'd have had to wait, since my Verizon contract wasn't out. I think they have great plans though, and they could be a resource to help you get the phone you want.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristóbal [mailto:crismunoz54@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 4:42 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cell phones

You could always look into the Odin phone. It’s supposed to be completely blind accessible.

I think it runs on the T-Mobile network.



From: Matt [mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 12:23 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cell phones



No it does not work on T-Mobile .’





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com <mailto:Matt.from.florida@gmail.com>



From: Pamela Dominguez [mailto:geodom@optonline.net]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 2:49 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cell phones



I have the information on the Haven, but that is an old phone you can’t go into a store and buy. I also don’t know if it works on TMobile. Pam.



From: Matt <mailto:matt.from.florida@gmail.com>

Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 2:28 PM

To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>

Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cell phones



Yes and if on Verizon there is the Samsung Haven which is an older phone a flip phone but is very accessible and I can give a podcast to it if wanted.





Matt.from.florida@gmail.com <mailto:Matt.from.florida@gmail.com>



From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 1:40 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] cell phones



There are phones you can buy from T Mobile that have buttons. I have one. I don't know how many of them are accessible, but mine is.



I am not recommending my phone, but if you want to hear a demonstration of my phone to get an idea of what features you might find and how they might function, you can download my demonstration. I did it for Accessible World.

http://www.accessibleworld.org/sites/default/files/tt-11-17-14-bookshare-web-site-non-smart-phone-voice-spotify.mp3



There is another presentation by someone else in the same file but mine is there.



Gene



From: Pamela Dominguez <mailto:geodom@optonline.net>

Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 11:29 AM

To: TechTalk@groups.io <mailto:TechTalk@groups.io>

Subject: [TechTalk] cell phones



Hi! I may have to replace my cellphone. I am on TMobile. I do not want to get an iPhone or an android phone. Is there any phone I could get that has buttons and that would work with TMobile? A friend of mine said she went to a TMobile store, and all she could find were flat screen phones. I hope somebody has some ideas. Thanks. Pam.

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