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Re: what is Web i.e. and is it still used?

Vicky Vaughan
 

I would very much like to know the name of the feature that skips over header and footer repeated information!
 
Sincerely, Vicky
 

From: joanne
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] what is Web i.e. and is it still used?
 
Oh thanks, Gene.  I'd be interested in what this feature is called.  I have tried using Fire Fox and it doesn't seem as straightforward as I.E. but I want to learn it.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] what is Web i.e. and is it still used?
 
Webbie is a browser developed for blind people.  It had some use years ago when some people were using primitive screen-readers like the one called Thunder that had no browse mode and no effective way of working with web pages using a regular browser and before NVDA was developed.  There is little or no reason to use it now, especially since the one somewhat useful feature I know about is now available in Firefox.  Webbie has a feature that removes links from web pages and let's you read an article without lots of links in the middle and at the beginning of the page.  But now, firefox has a very similar feature.  I'd have to look at it again before discussing it further. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: joanne
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 11:35 AM
Subject: [TechTalk] what is Web i.e. and is it still used?
 
A friend is installing Windows 8 and asked if I wanted something called Web I.e. which he apparently found in a past version of Windows.  I don't know what it is but he wondered if it makes Internet Explorer more responsive, or if it's an obsolete program and doesn't work with higher versions of I.E.
 
Joanne


Re: Promoting the list

Carlos
 


For the record, I did send out about 370 invitations in total.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

179 members in a bit less than a week is not too bad.  At least in my opinion.  If the number of members does not increase significantly over the next 2 or 3 weeks, then some promotion might not be unreasonable, but just keep in mind that some members already seem to be having a problem with the amount of traffic.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

Hi,
With all due respect I question the necessity of doing such.  It’s been my experience that lists like other living organisms grow best when tended well and left to their own devices and timing.
It seems to me that through word of mouth people who are meant to find their way here will in due course.
Robin
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:02 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Promoting the list
 
I've been thinking a bit about how to promote the list.  I'm not sure about this, but I think the person who edits Top Tech Tidbits would be willing to run an item about the list.  Perhaps other list members would have other suggestions.  I would say to wait before sending announcements to various places until this is discussed further but a little promotion might bring in many more members.
 
Gene


Re: Promoting the list

Carlos
 


179 members in a bit less than a week is not too bad.  At least in my opinion.  If the number of members does not increase significantly over the next 2 or 3 weeks, then some promotion might not be unreasonable, but just keep in mind that some members already seem to be having a problem with the amount of traffic.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Promoting the list

Hi,
With all due respect I question the necessity of doing such.  It’s been my experience that lists like other living organisms grow best when tended well and left to their own devices and timing.
It seems to me that through word of mouth people who are meant to find their way here will in due course.
Robin
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:02 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Promoting the list
 
I've been thinking a bit about how to promote the list.  I'm not sure about this, but I think the person who edits Top Tech Tidbits would be willing to run an item about the list.  Perhaps other list members would have other suggestions.  I would say to wait before sending announcements to various places until this is discussed further but a little promotion might bring in many more members.
 
Gene


Re: Desktop.

Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

Hey Carolyn its so great to see you on this list also. Hope you well?

On 04/09/2015, Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...> wrote:
I seem to be getting on the Desktop this morning. I think there could have
been some kind of fluke yesterday.
would work.
Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Beth [mailto:thebluesisloose@...]
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 5:03 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] test

Hi Don. Thought I saw you on other lists. smiles Welcome.

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Test 1 2 3 thanks.







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Re: Promoting the list

john schwery <jschwery@...>
 

Gene, J. J. from blind bargains might put in a spot.



earlier, Gene, wrote:

I've been thinking a bit about how to promote the list.  I'm not sure about this, but I think the person who edits Top Tech Tidbits would be willing to run an item about the list.  Perhaps other list members would have other suggestions.  I would say to wait before sending announcements to various places until this is discussed further but a little promotion might bring in many more members.
 
Gene


Re: Promoting the list

Robin Frost
 

Hi,
With all due respect I question the necessity of doing such.  It’s been my experience that lists like other living organisms grow best when tended well and left to their own devices and timing.
It seems to me that through word of mouth people who are meant to find their way here will in due course.
Robin
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 6:02 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Promoting the list
 
I've been thinking a bit about how to promote the list.  I'm not sure about this, but I think the person who edits Top Tech Tidbits would be willing to run an item about the list.  Perhaps other list members would have other suggestions.  I would say to wait before sending announcements to various places until this is discussed further but a little promotion might bring in many more members.
 
Gene


Promoting the list

Gene
 

I've been thinking a bit about how to promote the list.  I'm not sure about this, but I think the person who edits Top Tech Tidbits would be willing to run an item about the list.  Perhaps other list members would have other suggestions.  I would say to wait before sending announcements to various places until this is discussed further but a little promotion might bring in many more members.
 
Gene


Re: The Hadley Training Seminars and such

 

Don't forget that they also have a youtube channel with small tutorials about one thing. I've listened to the seminars, just not the youtube bids. 

Melissa
Sent from my iPhone  

On Sep 4, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Monica Jones <monicaj391@...> wrote:

Their stuff at Hadley is very good. They have seminars and such on a whole bunch of things.
I think you'll find them beneficial.


-----Original Message----- From: Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 2:03 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training

Oh, yes, I must check out these, I am a student at Hadley and keep telling myself to watch their iFocus video tutorials but forget to actually do it smile.
Chris
On 4 Sep 2015, at 00:06, Donna <mermaid7@...> wrote:

Hi

Sorry, I haven't followed this thread from the start. So my suggestion may not be what is being requested. Anyway, YouTube has video tutorials on there done by Hadley school. These tutorials are very indepth and are easy to follow.  Some of the things that are covered are the gestures used with voiceover, using seri & using dictation.

I apologize if this off topic for this thread.

Also some Apple stores offer classes for beginner iDevice users. One will have to call and inquire and schedule a time for a class.

Donna

On Sep 3, 2015, at 5:23 PM, rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:

Hi,
Well, sorry, I should have clarified, I'm more interested within IPhones and IPads as of now. I will probably choose the windows path over the Mac, though. I feel like windows is more opened.

----- Original Message -----
From: Matt <matt..from.florida@...>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Thursday, 3 September 2015 10:17 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training



Hi, check out the blind geek zone site. It has lots of podcast on the Mac
by a person called Mike you can also check out the BCT )Blind Cool Tech )
archives on the site as well it has podcast on the mac as well by mike and
others. I will post the link to the BGZ site. Also check out the
Mac4theblind list and site it has lots of helpful members and such on the
site by John the owner of the site and email list. See links below.

http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/

http://www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind

this next link is Apple vis podcast interview with John and I think you will
find some good info in it as well. John owns the mac4theblind.


http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast778.mp3

Also check out David Woodbridge podcast as well just google them or go to
Vision Australia site and you can find them there. See link to him and
Vision Australia  below.

http://www.visionaustralia.org/living-with-low-vision/learning-to-live-indep
endently/using-technology-and-computers/help-yourself!-technology-podcasts-a
nd-resources/computer-access


Thanks,
Matt.from.florida@...

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 4:52 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training

Hi,
OK, thanks. Any apple  getting started audio? I already checked applevis,
miserably failed. And I already checked the android getting started. I now
want to check out apple.

----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Thursday, 3 September 2015 9:40 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training



They are only written tutorials. Well worth a read though.
On 3 Sep 2015, at 21:39, rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:

Hi,
Does that voiceover-easy.net only have written, or do they have audio
tutorials?

----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Scott <terryscott@...>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Thursday, 3 September 2015 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training



Hi I found this is a grate place also. Voiceover Easy Home Page

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Re: Assigning admins/moderators, was: (Directed messages)

john schwery <jschwery@...>
 


From what I have seen, from running and being on lists, an owner or moderator has to be a benevolent dictator.  He can get adive and seek opinions, but in the end, a list can't be run by committee.  He has to do what he thinks is right and go for it.



earlier, amanda burt, wrote:

I agree.  I've also been a moderator and if people don't agree or there is a miscomunication things can get hary but, I must say Carlos, you're doing an excelent job.  You're not coming down hard on someone if they shouldn't have posted something.  People don't like that as we've found out on the other list smiles.  Just carry on the way you're doing and, there seem to be a lot of people who will give you advice.
 
Amanda

From: Carlos
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 8:43 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Assigning admins/moderators, was: (Directed messages)

Hi Joseph,
I appreciate the offer and I may or may not assign moderators at some point, but for now I would like the experience of doing it myself before handing over the responsibility to someone else.  Especially since this is my first time running a mail list.  Also, I think choosing a moderator is something that should be done with caution and careful consideration.  Too often I have seen problems caused when a moderator says something or handles a particular situation in a manner that conflicts with the opinion of the list owner.  If the correct person is not chosen and the moderator and list owner do not communicate or are simply not of like minds, I believe this is inevitable.
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Hudson
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Directed messages

Hey Carlos, you make me an admin I'll help you full your rules. I've done this to Chris already a couple of times. Talking about Chris Holdsworth.
Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7789@...
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
https://www.facebook..com/joseph.hudson.9404
Twitter
https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Sep 4, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

I agree with this and I would also like to emphasize keeping subject lines consistent in general.  I.E. If you would like to begin a different discussion, simply start with a new message.  Or if what you have to say is at least related to the thread to which you are responding, but may significantly side track the conversation, at least change the subject to reflect this.  I will have to work to follow this rule myself since I have not always been careful enough in this respect.
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald L. Roberts
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 2:58 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Directed messages

Believe me, it is not my desire to cause a problem.  But I am starting to see a problem on this list that frustrated me on the other list, specifically Blindtech.  I am talking about the practice of directing messages to a specific individual in the subject line.  I respectfully suggest that if anyone wants to direct his message to an individual that he do so via private email.  I say that because it screws up the sorting of threads badly when the actual subject is preceeded by the name of an individual.
 
Don Roberts
 




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Re: thankyou Carlos

Monica Jones
 

Lol, yes, I was kidding. If you want to send me one though, please send it to
 
Thanks bunches.
 
 

From: Carlos
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thankyou Carlos
 
Hi Monica,
I thought that I had in fact sent you an invitation, but if not it is only because the majority of addresses to which I sent invitations were retrieved using a script.  In most cases I did not personally know the Email addresses of the members who were invited or even who the addresses retrieved by the script belong to.  And yes, I know that you were mostly kidding but I thought I would explain anyway just in case anyone else might truly feel as if they were intentionally excluded.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] thankyou Carlos
 
He must not like me; I didn’t get the invite. (grin)
 
 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 2:16 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] thankyou Carlos
 
thanks for sending out the invite.
cheers
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Facebook, Monica Rose Jones


Re: Directed messages

Carlos
 

I agree that the biggest problem is trying to get the majority of members to
cooperate.

And thanks. Although my sanity seems to be fairly intact so far LOL.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cristóbal" <crismunoz54@...>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Directed messages


Thread hijacking, one word responses (I.E. Thanks, ok, sure, etc.) trolling,
intentionally going off topic (thinking by simply putting OT makes it ok)
are all list manners no-nos.
What you list owners do is appreciated even though some do it better than
others... There's no way I'd be able to keep my sanity with running a list.
I'd probably try to reach through the screen after the third day to pop
someone in the chin who refuses to comply.
Good luck to you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 2:05 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Directed messages

And as I'm discovering the bane of a list owner's existence as well LOL.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cristóbal" <crismunoz54@...>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Directed messages


Thread hijacking... The bane of a list member's existance.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 1:43 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Directed messages

Hi,
If let's say, I speak about IPhone, and you then ask about the differences
between apple and android, yes, that is related. But I often see someone
asking something about gmail, and there's something totally unrelated
below.
Literally, all that needs to be done, is a select all, and delete.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@...>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Friday, 4 September 2015 9:32 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Directed messages



I agree that you should start with a new message/subject if the topic is
completely unrelated to the original one, but I believe that modifying
the
subject with a reference to the original topic is acceptable if it is at
least related.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@...>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Directed messages


Hi,
Can I add 2 things, please?
Keep the original message, and if possible, please, when you start a
new
subject, and if a new thread, please, start a new message. I never
liked
when the subject says microwaves, but turns out that the microwaves
message became a new thread from used laptops, let's say.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@...>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Friday, 4 September 2015 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Directed messages



I agree with this and I would also like to emphasize keeping subject
lines consistent in general. I.E. If you would like to begin a
different
discussion, simply start with a new message. Or if what you have to
say
is at least related to the thread to which you are responding, but may
significantly side track the conversation, at least change the subject
to
reflect this. I will have to work to follow this rule myself since I
have not always been careful enough in this respect.
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald L. Roberts
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 2:58 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Directed messages


Believe me, it is not my desire to cause a problem. But I am starting
to
see a problem on this list that frustrated me on the other list,
specifically Blindtech. I am talking about the practice of directing
messages to a specific individual in the subject line. I respectfully
suggest that if anyone wants to direct his message to an individual
that
he do so via private email. I say that because it screws up the
sorting
of threads badly when the actual subject is preceeded by the name of
an
individual.

Don Roberts

Sent from a Braille Sense




Sent from a Braille Sense






The Hadley Training Seminars and such

Monica Jones
 

Their stuff at Hadley is very good. They have seminars and such on a whole bunch of things.
I think you'll find them beneficial.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 2:03 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training

Oh, yes, I must check out these, I am a student at Hadley and keep telling myself to watch their iFocus video tutorials but forget to actually do it smile.
Chris
On 4 Sep 2015, at 00:06, Donna <mermaid7@...> wrote:

Hi

Sorry, I haven't followed this thread from the start. So my suggestion may not be what is being requested. Anyway, YouTube has video tutorials on there done by Hadley school. These tutorials are very indepth and are easy to follow. Some of the things that are covered are the gestures used with voiceover, using seri & using dictation.

I apologize if this off topic for this thread.

Also some Apple stores offer classes for beginner iDevice users. One will have to call and inquire and schedule a time for a class.

Donna

On Sep 3, 2015, at 5:23 PM, rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:

Hi,
Well, sorry, I should have clarified, I'm more interested within IPhones and IPads as of now. I will probably choose the windows path over the Mac, though. I feel like windows is more opened.

----- Original Message -----
From: Matt <matt.from.florida@...>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Thursday, 3 September 2015 10:17 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training



Hi, check out the blind geek zone site. It has lots of podcast on the Mac
by a person called Mike you can also check out the BCT )Blind Cool Tech )
archives on the site as well it has podcast on the mac as well by mike and
others. I will post the link to the BGZ site. Also check out the
Mac4theblind list and site it has lots of helpful members and such on the
site by John the owner of the site and email list. See links below.

http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/

http://www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind

this next link is Apple vis podcast interview with John and I think you will
find some good info in it as well. John owns the mac4theblind.


http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast778.mp3

Also check out David Woodbridge podcast as well just google them or go to
Vision Australia site and you can find them there. See link to him and
Vision Australia below.

http://www.visionaustralia.org/living-with-low-vision/learning-to-live-indep
endently/using-technology-and-computers/help-yourself!-technology-podcasts-a
nd-resources/computer-access


Thanks,
Matt.from.florida@...

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 4:52 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training

Hi,
OK, thanks. Any apple getting started audio? I already checked applevis,
miserably failed. And I already checked the android getting started. I now
want to check out apple.

----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Thursday, 3 September 2015 9:40 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training



They are only written tutorials. Well worth a read though.
On 3 Sep 2015, at 21:39, rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:

Hi,
Does that voiceover-easy.net only have written, or do they have audio
tutorials?

----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Scott <terryscott@...>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Thursday, 3 September 2015 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training



Hi I found this is a grate place also. Voiceover Easy Home Page
Sent from a Braille Sense
Sent from a Braille Sense
Sent from a Braille Sense






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Twitter, @Monni52
Skype, Monnirose52
Facebook, Monica Rose Jones


Re: Assigning admins/moderators, was: (Directed messages)

amanda burt
 

I agree.  I've also been a moderator and if people don't agree or there is a miscomunication things can get hary but, I must say Carlos, you're doing an excelent job.  You're not coming down hard on someone if they shouldn't have posted something.  People don't like that as we've found out on the other list smiles.  Just carry on the way you're doing and, there seem to be a lot of people who will give you advice.
 
Amanda

From: Carlos
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Assigning admins/moderators, was: (Directed messages)

Hi Joseph,
I appreciate the offer and I may or may not assign moderators at some point, but for now I would like the experience of doing it myself before handing over the responsibility to someone else.  Especially since this is my first time running a mail list.  Also, I think choosing a moderator is something that should be done with caution and careful consideration.  Too often I have seen problems caused when a moderator says something or handles a particular situation in a manner that conflicts with the opinion of the list owner.  If the correct person is not chosen and the moderator and list owner do not communicate or are simply not of like minds, I believe this is inevitable.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Directed messages

Hey Carlos, you make me an admin I'll help you full your rules. I've done this to Chris already a couple of times. Talking about Chris Holdsworth.
Joseph Hudson
Email
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
Twitter

On Sep 4, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:

I agree with this and I would also like to emphasize keeping subject lines consistent in general.  I.E. If you would like to begin a different discussion, simply start with a new message.  Or if what you have to say is at least related to the thread to which you are responding, but may significantly side track the conversation, at least change the subject to reflect this.  I will have to work to follow this rule myself since I have not always been careful enough in this respect.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 2:58 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Directed messages

Believe me, it is not my desire to cause a problem.  But I am starting to see a problem on this list that frustrated me on the other list, specifically Blindtech.  I am talking about the practice of directing messages to a specific individual in the subject line.  I respectfully suggest that if anyone wants to direct his message to an individual that he do so via private email.  I say that because it screws up the sorting of threads badly when the actual subject is preceeded by the name of an individual.
 
Don Roberts
 




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Re: Directed messages

Cristóbal
 

Thread hijacking, one word responses (I.E. Thanks, ok, sure, etc.) trolling,
intentionally going off topic (thinking by simply putting OT makes it ok)
are all list manners no-nos.
What you list owners do is appreciated even though some do it better than
others... There's no way I'd be able to keep my sanity with running a list.
I'd probably try to reach through the screen after the third day to pop
someone in the chin who refuses to comply.
Good luck to you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos [mailto:carlos1106@...]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 2:05 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Directed messages

And as I'm discovering the bane of a list owner's existence as well LOL.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cristóbal" <crismunoz54@...>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Directed messages


Thread hijacking... The bane of a list member's existance.

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 1:43 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Directed messages

Hi,
If let's say, I speak about IPhone, and you then ask about the differences
between apple and android, yes, that is related. But I often see someone
asking something about gmail, and there's something totally unrelated
below.
Literally, all that needs to be done, is a select all, and delete.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@...>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Friday, 4 September 2015 9:32 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Directed messages



I agree that you should start with a new message/subject if the topic is
completely unrelated to the original one, but I believe that modifying
the
subject with a reference to the original topic is acceptable if it is at
least related.
----- Original Message -----
From: "rajmund" <brajmund2000@...>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Directed messages


Hi,
Can I add 2 things, please?
Keep the original message, and if possible, please, when you start a
new
subject, and if a new thread, please, start a new message. I never
liked
when the subject says microwaves, but turns out that the microwaves
message became a new thread from used laptops, let's say.

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos <carlos1106@...>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Friday, 4 September 2015 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Directed messages



I agree with this and I would also like to emphasize keeping subject
lines consistent in general. I.E. If you would like to begin a
different
discussion, simply start with a new message. Or if what you have to
say
is at least related to the thread to which you are responding, but may
significantly side track the conversation, at least change the subject
to
reflect this. I will have to work to follow this rule myself since I
have not always been careful enough in this respect.
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald L. Roberts
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 2:58 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] Directed messages


Believe me, it is not my desire to cause a problem. But I am starting
to
see a problem on this list that frustrated me on the other list,
specifically Blindtech. I am talking about the practice of directing
messages to a specific individual in the subject line. I respectfully
suggest that if anyone wants to direct his message to an individual
that
he do so via private email. I say that because it screws up the
sorting
of threads badly when the actual subject is preceeded by the name of
an
individual.

Don Roberts

Sent from a Braille Sense




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Re: Windows Defender

Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

It must be accessible. Its one of the less cluttered virus stuff.

On 04/09/2015, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...> wrote:
Hi, Windows defender is not accessible.
Joseph Hudson
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https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

On Sep 4, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Monica Jones <monicaj391@...> wrote:

I opened Defender on my computer a week or so ago and couldn't get
anything from it. Jaws wasn't giving me any information; I couldn't tell
if something was keeping it from working, or, or it just wasn't
accessible. I had heard someone say before that it was, so I wanted to see
what it does.


-----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 4:03 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with Microsoft security essentials

This is interesting information. Just this afternoon, we contacted
Freedom
Scientific, because my McAfee that came with the computer is about to
expire. My husband has been pleased with Windows Defender for nearly two
years. He wanted to be sure that there would be no conflict with JAWS,
and
he and I both talked to Eric in Customer Service, who said that Windows
Defender and JAWS were compatible. I wonder if there is something else
more
JAWS friendly. I tried to find that out from him, but I can understand
his
position. He can say if something will or won't work, but cannot endorse
anything, since his job is support for JAWS.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Blaster [mailto:blaster@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 7:40 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

My scan slows down at the same general area, 85%. Then out of nowhere it
starts back up at normal speed and finishes. just let it run a while and
see if it completes the scans.

Blaster







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Facebook, Monica Rose Jones


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Re: Large amounts of traffic was considering to start with Apple machines

Monica Jones
 

I understand, Joseph, many bring something to the table. I know lots but there’s always lots more I can learn. I love learning; it keeps things interesting.
 
 

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 3:01 PM
Subject: Large amounts of traffic was [TechTalk] considering to start with Apple machines
 
Hi, large amount of traffic is not a problem. the problem is is whenever people start bickering about who can help the best. That's what got me to leave blind tech.
Joseph Hudson
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Telephone
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On Sep 3, 2015, at 2:44 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
 
We will try to insure that there is no arguing, whining, and bickering.  Although there's not very much I can do about large amounts of traffic in general.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] considering to start with Apple machines
 
Oh okay, will thank you. I will have to say, Dan if this turns out anything like what blind take did I'm afraid I will have to leave as I get way too many emails in the day, to do with the arguing and whining and bickering
Joseph Hudson
Email
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
Twitter
 
On Sep 3, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Carlos <carlos1106@...> wrote:
 
LOL actually I just collected a large list of Emails from old messages using a bit of scripting, but be assured that I do in fact      remember you Joseph and you are most certainly welcome here.
----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] considering to start with Apple machines
 
Hello, I was not here for the original email and I do have a Mac computer matter fact my first one and I'll be more than willing to speak with you via any contact below. And trying to help you pick out what is best for you. So if you wish to talk with me no free to contact me. And secondly, I want to thank Carlos for inviting me to his list. I don't know who gave him my info to invite me to this list but I do appreciate the invite.
Joseph Hudson
Email
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
Twitter
 
On Sep 3, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Matt <matt.from.florida@...> wrote:
 
Hi, you might want to join the Mac4theblind list. This is a great email list and great owner and mod. See link below to join up.
 
 
 
 
From: Moty Azrad [mailto:motiaz@...] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 10:06 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] considering to start with Apple machines
Matt,
I don’t thinnk that the MAC will be my first computer’ probably not in the beginning.
I’ve to learn, to practice and then to choose the better one for me.
I’m sorry that only you had answered my questions.
I wish to get much more info and some tips, which kind of machines of mac, there are and what is the best for totally blind user who needs braile too and more.
I hope that more Mac users here will send their help and knowledge.
thanks you any way, Matt.
Moti 
From: Matt
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] considering to start with Applemachines
Is this Mac going to be your work computer? If so what do you do for a living? I personally don’t have a Mac yet been putting it off for ever. But I think I will be getting my first very soon. As soon as they put out the new ones and I sort of leaning toward a Mac mini possible a Mac Air . It is not going to be a work computer or even my main computer .but something to learn and play around with.
From: Moty Azrad [mailto:motiaz@...] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 4:57 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] considering to start with Apple machines
Thanks Matt.
I wrote to this list in order to get more explanation about the real difference between the systems of Apple and these of Microsoft.
I do hope to get much more info because as I said, I don’t have any experience with Apple and wish to know whether to start to work with or not.
thanks for any output here.
Moti
From: Matt
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 4:23 AM
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] considering to start with Apple machines
Hi, well, there is several ways you can do this install windows on the Mac. One thru a virtual windows and the other is thru boot camp . Which boot camp is fairly like just installing windows like on any hard drive.  I think I would prefer boot camp to a virtual windows but it is a choice. Now if you not going to use this thing as your primary machine you might not want to get      the latest and greatest . You might want to if thinking of a lap top go with the Mac book air the13 inch or the 11 inch. They also have brought back the mac book as well so that might be worth looking at. But all this being said this late in the year I think I would wait for the new ones to come out. JST !
From: Moty Azrad [mailto:motiaz@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:46 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: [TechTalk] considering to start          with Apple machines
Dear all,
First, greetings to you all here in the new list and a lot of thanks to Carlos, who helps all of us everywhere.
Now my thoughts:
I’m using for fourteen years or so the system operation of Microsoft.
Now, I use Win 7 pro and think to upgrade it – when Jaws 17 is out, soon.
I’ve two laptops, one is 8 years and the other one is five years old.
I think to start now using the laptop of Apple and as I do understand – I’mtalking about MACBOOK PRO.
I really wish to get your thoughts, your experience with that machine.
which one do I have to purchase and any other helpful information.
I’ve read about it but really don’t have any experience and the world and the way Apple acts with its systems.
Again, I do understand that it is a very general question but any information, any experience will be greatly appreciated.
I’m totally blind and use Braille Display and it’s a very important point for me.
I also know that I can install the system of Microsoft on these machine of Apple and wish to know how really this works.
thanks for any output.
Moti



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Re: FW: Broken Link

Carlos
 

I took care of it Joseph.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <TechTalk@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 5:06 PM
Subject: [TechTalk] FW: Broken Link


Hi Carlos and others,
Can you help this person offlist? Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Bucher [mailto:bigmancomputing@...]
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 2:04 PM
To: joseph.lee22590@...
Subject: Re: Broken Link

Hi Joseph,
Since you are involved with NVDA, I thought you might have seen this:
Top Tech Tidbits for Thursday, September 3, 2015 - Volume 524 This page
gives links to the "Talking Windows Preinstall Environment" which enables
blind users to install Windows indepdently:
http://www.handiham.org/drupal2/node/436

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: "'Keith Bucher'" <bigmancomputing@...>
Date: Friday, September 4, 2015 4:40 pm
Subject: RE: Broken Link



Hi,
Hmmm, I don't know about that file, sorry (perhaps you asked the wrong
Joseph).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Bucher [mailto:bigmancomputing@...]
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:40 PM
To: joseph.lee22590@...
Subject: Broken Link

Hi Joseph,
When I go to http://helpbird.blogspot.com/ and attempt to download the
Installing Windows without sight assistance file by Carlos, the link
does not work. I would really like to have this file. Is there
anywhere else I can download it? Thanks.


Re: Essential iPhone training

Monica Jones
 

Thanks bunches for these links. I think I may have some, but I'm saving them all just in case. I have a folder on my computer for sites that I want to look at and/or keep. If I like them, I put them in my browser favs, but I keep the links in the folder in case I change browsers or somehow lose the favorite.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 4:17 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training

Hi, check out the blind geek zone site. It has lots of podcast on the Mac
by a person called Mike you can also check out the BCT )Blind Cool Tech )
archives on the site as well it has podcast on the mac as well by mike and
others. I will post the link to the BGZ site. Also check out the
Mac4theblind list and site it has lots of helpful members and such on the
site by John the owner of the site and email list. See links below.

http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/

http://www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind

this next link is Apple vis podcast interview with John and I think you will
find some good info in it as well. John owns the mac4theblind.


http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast778.mp3

Also check out David Woodbridge podcast as well just google them or go to
Vision Australia site and you can find them there. See link to him and
Vision Australia below.

http://www.visionaustralia.org/living-with-low-vision/learning-to-live-indep
endently/using-technology-and-computers/help-yourself!-technology-podcasts-a
nd-resources/computer-access


Thanks,
Matt.from.florida@...

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 4:52 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training

Hi,
OK, thanks. Any apple getting started audio? I already checked applevis,
miserably failed. And I already checked the android getting started. I now
want to check out apple.

----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Thursday, 3 September 2015 9:40 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training



They are only written tutorials. Well worth a read though.
On 3 Sep 2015, at 21:39, rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:

Hi,
Does that voiceover-easy.net only have written, or do they have audio
tutorials?

----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Scott <terryscott@...>
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Date: Thursday, 3 September 2015 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training



Hi I found this is a grate place also. Voiceover Easy Home Page


Sent from a Braille Sense




Sent from a Braille Sense







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Re: Windows Defender

joseph hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Hi, Windows defender is not accessible.
Joseph Hudson
Email
I device support
Telephone
2543007667
Skype
joseph.hudson89 facebook
Twitter

On Sep 4, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Monica Jones <monicaj391@...> wrote:

I opened Defender on my computer a week or so ago and couldn't get anything from it. Jaws wasn't giving me any information; I couldn't tell if something was keeping it from working, or, or it just wasn't accessible. I had heard someone say before that it was, so I wanted to see what it does.


-----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 4:03 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with Microsoft security essentials

This is interesting information. Just this afternoon, we contacted Freedom
Scientific, because my McAfee that came with the computer is about to
expire. My husband has been pleased with Windows Defender for nearly two
years. He wanted to be sure that there would be no conflict with JAWS, and
he and I both talked to Eric in Customer Service, who said that Windows
Defender and JAWS were compatible. I wonder if there is something else more
JAWS friendly. I tried to find that out from him, but I can understand his
position. He can say if something will or won't work, but cannot endorse
anything, since his job is support for JAWS.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Blaster [mailto:blaster@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 7:40 AM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Strange issue with microsoft security essentials

My scan slows down at the same general area, 85%.  Then out of nowhere it
starts back up at normal speed and finishes.  just let it run a while and
see if it completes the scans.

Blaster







Monni, the coffee gal
Twitter, @Monni52
Skype, Monnirose52
Facebook, Monica Rose Jones





Re: Essential iPhone training

Monica Jones
 

Yes, I give this site to new I device users along with AppleVis. This site you gave is very detailed. I wish it had been here when I started.

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Scott
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 2:59 PM
To: TechTalk@groups.io
Subject: Re: [TechTalk] Essential iPhone training

Hi I found this is a grate place also. Voiceover Easy Home Page



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Twitter, @Monni52
Skype, Monnirose52
Facebook, Monica Rose Jones

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